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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 20:17:34 GMT -5
Welcome to the Your Personal SMiLE Mix thread! This is the thread which gives you the opportunity to display your personal mix of songs from the unreleased Beach Boys' album, SMiLE. Feel free to simply list your order or sequence of the tracks, or even better, provide a link to the actual music. Explanations for your tracklists and sequences are welcomed, but please remember, the purpose of the thread is to inform, entertain, and above all, to have fun. While debate is certainly encouraged, please keep it civil and friendly. Obviously since SMiLE was never released, we are dealing with theories, rumors, and speculation. We have to be careful what we designate as FACT.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 21:58:08 GMT -5
Well, I talked about my "principles" (for lack of a better word) when it comes to a SMiLE mix in the other thread. So here I'll just talk about specifics. Aquarian SMiLE: With this one I wanted to flesh out that 2-sided mix idea I first tried out with SMiLE: Reflections. This time though, I wanted to throw out all the bells and whistles, using as much material (including Psychedelic Sounds) that could fit in this 2-suite context as possible without ruining the flow. I'm still proud of this mix but in hindsight I think it goes on too long and outstays its welcome. (You're Welcome) Heroes and Villains Part 1 Cabin Essence Do You Like Worms Mrs. O'Leary's Cow (Veggies Argument) Vega-Tables Heroes and Villains Part 2 [including He Gives Speeches vocals over the fade] (Smog Skit) Our Prayer/Holidays Wind Chimes Child is Father of the Man Wonderful/Look Cool Cool Water/Dada Surf's Up Dumb Angel (Olorin Mix): This time around I wanted to get rid of songs that are less likely to have made the cut in Dec '66. I only used songs on that Dec tracklist, but fleshed out with Psychedelic Sounds material. I also wanted to recreate the elements track using the most plausible material possible. I recall AGD saying once on an old, old SmileySmile thread that somebody told him the elements would have been two variations of two separate themes. In that thread, the assumption was that Dada/Second Day and Fire/Fall Breaks would fit the bill. I reinterpreted it to mean two instrumentals and two a capella sections. Anyway, I still like this mix too but in hindsight I definitely went over the top with Psychedelic Sounds. Upon taking a closer listen, I don't believe Brian would have used even half as many on the album. The idea of a "Side A" and "Side 1" (so either can come first) is an idea I got from an old SMiLE Shop essay--just a cute joke that fits the spirit of the project. Side 1
Good Vibrations The Elements [Fire/Water Chant/Workshop/Breathing] Wind Chimes Wonderful Child is Father of the Man Surf’s Up Side A
Do You Dig Worms? I’m in Great Shape Vega-Tables Heroes and Villains Cabin Essence My Only Sunshine Dumb Angel [Romestamo Cut]: I made this after coming to the conclusion that SMiLE was meant to evoke the themes and values associated with the Age of Aquarius, so that one side would signal the end of Pisces and the latter signal the dawn of Aquarius. Since I began to interpret OMP as the sun setting on the old age, I moved that to be the penultimate track. In hindsight, this is my favorite SMiLE mix I've done thus far, and the one I listen to the most. But I would still change some thing--like putting OMP back with the Americana tracks and using slightly less Psychedelic Sounds. Side 1
(Prayer) Do You Dig Worms Heroes and Villains Cabin Essence (Taxi Cabber) The Elements Vega-Tables Side A
Good Vibrations Wind Chimes Wonderful (Ice Cream Man) Child is Father of the Man My Only Sunshine Surf's Up (George Fell Into His French Horn) I've put off working on a new mix indefinitely, because, frankly, I have more important things to do. But someday soon I would like to revisit the concept and make some changes to my last mix:
--Limit the Psychedelic Sounds material to just the Veggie Fight and George Fell. As much as I love Taxi Cabber, Smog and Ice Cream Man, I dont think Brian would have used them on the album anymore. Upon taking a closer listen last summer when writing my essays, it's clear to me now that those two were the only ones Brian was serious about. --Play around with fun new openings for the sides. I really like the idea of opening the whole album with the H&V Intro (aka the first part of Fire on BWPS and TSS.) Starting with that abrupt whistle sound and cartoon chase music would be a lot of and a stark contrast to so many albums beginning with a softer fade-in like Prayer or You're Welcome. I also like the idea of beginning side 2 with Fire for the same reason. --I like the idea of using George Fell as a lead-in to Surf's Up as opposed to an unlisted closer (in the extended cut of the session, on Unsurpassed Masters 17, one of the musicians/horns says "wait till they hear the next track!") and then ending the whole album with Prayer as Vosse attests was the plan. (I know Brian called it "intro to the album" in a session, but that's been done to death and as far as I know, no one's done it Vosse's way yet.) --Moving OMP back to side 1. Switching it to Side 2 was a fun experiment but it bothers me now. I'd like to include it as part of Heroes, as that "barnyard suite" some of our contemporary sources mentioned. So the album would begin with H&V Intro, into H&V proper.... maybe possibly IIGS and/or Barnyard...and then cap out with OMP. It would have to be done carefully so it doesn't wear out its welcome. --Elements can go on either side. According to Vosse it wasn't just about expressing the natural elements but also had a double meaning by expressing fitness (and, I suspect, emotional states too). So it could work on Side 1 about the flaws on institutions, polluting the natural world and America, or it could work on Side 2 about individuality, growth and change, introspection and spiritual rebirth. As I said earlier, I like the idea of starting Side 2 abruptly with Fire, but moving Elements to Side 1 was one of my favorite things about the Romestamo mix. I think it leads into Vega-Tables so perfectly and I'd hate to lose that. That said, there's a point to be made about mirroring the sides by having the Barnyard and Elements suites begin their respective sides. It's a tough call...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 22:12:26 GMT -5
I've put off working on a new mix indefinitely, because, frankly, I have more important things to do. But someday soon I would like to revisit the concept and make some changes to my last mix:
--I really like the idea of opening the whole album with the H&V Intro (aka the first part of Fire on BWPS and TSS.) Starting with that abrupt whistle sound and cartoon chase music would be a lot of and a stark contrast to so many albums beginning with a softer fade-in like Prayer or You're Welcome. Pure speculation, but I believe that this segment WAS the intro to "Heroes And Villains", and I also believe the SMiLE album would've opened exactly that way - the whistle/cartoon/Keystone Cops chase into "Heroes And Villians". It just causes me to shake my head how this section became the intro to "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" - and stuck - based on an idea several decades after the fact by somebody who had absolutely nothing to do with the recording of SMiLE.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 22:47:53 GMT -5
--I really like the idea of opening the whole album with the H&V Intro (aka the first part of Fire on BWPS and TSS.) Starting with that abrupt whistle sound and cartoon chase music would be a lot of and a stark contrast to so many albums beginning with a softer fade-in like Prayer or You're Welcome. Pure speculation, but I believe that this segment WAS the intro to "Heroes And Villains", and I also believe the SMiLE album would've opened exactly that way - the whistle/cartoon/Keystone Cops chase into "Heroes And Villians". It just causes me to shake my head how this section became the intro to "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" - and stuck - based on an idea several decades after the fact by somebody who had absolutely nothing to do with the recording of SMiLE. Oh I know. I feel the same bewilderment (and, if I'm being honest, sometimes frustration) that the idea of Dada as Water and Wind Chimes as Air has caught on so completely that you're treated as a kook for even suggesting that, maybe just maybe, the contemporary sources which attest to a 4-section single track are more reliable that Brian from ten years later talking about a vague piano section we've never heard. And, if that's not enough, even if Brian was telling the truth about Air as a piano piece, there's still absolutely zero proof that it's the same as the Wind Chimes outro. Like, maybe just maybe this recording of him in the studio on Nov 4 '66--the height of the SMiLE Era mind you--where he has everyone make breathing sounds and fish noises--maybe that might possibly be a rough concept for the missing elements. Crazy idea right? (I don't wanna get too invested in this debate all over again. It's just a pet peeve of mine when it comes to SMiLE discussions.) In any case, it's undeniable that the later bootlegs have completely morphed our understanding of SMiLE. The use of H&V intro as part of Fire is solid proof if nothing else. Furthermore, it's pretty likely that these bootlegs influenced the final products in '03 and '11. Whether you want to believe Darian showed Brian some of his ideas (he was a big bootleg collector) and Brian made minimal if any changes, or Brian took the lead and revealed his long hidden plan (including a 17 track, 3-suited album in the age of 2-sided vinyl, with short snippets like Barnyard as standalone tracks...) is up to the listener. I heavily lean towards the former. Even if Brian took an active role in sequencing (which, based on weighing the articles and interviews I've seen, I doubt) no one can deny the plan drastically changed from what it had been since the 60s. Now, to counter all this, I've heard people argue that there was no plan in the 60s and therefore nothing worth questioning the '03/'11 sequence for. But I disagree; I think if you read the contemporary interviews, especially Vosse's, there clearly was a plan. He states in no uncertain terms that the album was conceptually finished in late 1966. I think he's right, and I think work only stopped and Brian lost sight of his plan come '67. That's just after the Fire incident made him shelve the bridge between the two sides and their respective themes. (We have interviews from Brian saying SMiLE was originally a 2-movement cantata and in reference to BWPS that "we added a third movement.") That's also after VDP left, still with lyrics to write and conceptual frameworks to tie together. It is only here that Brian starts spinning the wheels, recording contradictory versions of H&V, Veggies, Wonderful and Dada (what I suspect were the A and B sides respectively of the next single.) He does this both to distract himself from facing the now-insurmountable album and to prove he's still "got it" by making a single as good as GV. In doing so, he cannibalizes sections of the album and it all falls apart. When it comes time to do Smiley Smile you can see it as salvaging what was finished or finishable (H&V, GV, Wonderful, Veggies, With Me Tonight, Wind Chimes, HGS (now called (She's Goin' Bald)) in a new, laid back style. The songs that still needed lyrics and/or were more VDP's idea than Brian's (Cabin Essence, Worms, CIFOTM, Surf's Up, Elements, Barnyard Suite/OMP, etc) were shelved indefinitely. Why do I say these last set of songs were VDP's idea? Because he's into this kind of Americana stuff--he does it on all his albums. Brian, on the other hand, has never consciously made Americana stuff in his career. Left to his own devices, I don't see Brian writing about Indians losing their land or quoting Walt Whitman. New stuff was written on the fly by Mike and/or reused "feels" from the SMiLE era. I'm kinda getting off track here, but what I'm trying to say in these last two paragraphs is that there was a plan, it just got thrown off the rails after VDP left. And Brian, after literal decades of mental abuse plus emotional pain surrounding the project itself, either forgot or consciously blocked out his ideas from late '66 when the album was still coming along steadily. By the time he was doing his tour, that plan either didn't appeal to him, was long forgotten, or maybe he honestly preferred Darian/the bootleg's schematic better. But to claim that '03/'11 and '66/'67 versions of SMiLE follow the same outline is nonsense, as is the argument that there was no plan in the beginning. Sure things evolved, and eventually came undone, but let's give Brian a little more credit than that. He was at the height of his powers in '66, and VDP after leaving made his own cohesive concept album. Let's not pretend they were just making shit up day after day without any kind of plan, perhaps as nebulous as it might have been.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 23:37:39 GMT -5
Anyway, as you can see it's easy to set me off and I go on and write books about this album, so I'm going to force myself not to reply after this. I'm just restating my own ideas once again and I don't want to intimidate or over-crowd anyone else from offering their own take, much less get dragged into a whole acrimonious debate like at SS. I have other writing projects I want to work on now like my blogs and a mock policy platform, so I don't want to get too ensconced in SMiLE again. At least not right now. I'll just leave this topic with a tenuous tracklist for what I want my next SMiLE mix to be, sometime in the distant future when I can devote time to making it. [1. Heroes and Villains](H&V Intro)/Verse 1/Cantina-Under Arrest/Children Were Raised/3 Score & 5/"Lala" Verse/Stand-a-fore/Western Bridge Theme/Slow Children were raised/Slow Verse (ends abruptly into...) [2. Old Master Painter]Ends with Fade, maybe put HGS over the fade? (They fit, and it's fun.) While not quite the Barnyard suite Vosse described (since there's no "Barnyard") it would be four distinct sections of music back to back if you include Heroes. [3. Do You Dig Worms?]
The previous song referencing God will make a good lead into coming over to America for religious freedom while hypocritically denying it to the Indians. Also, if OMP represents losing faith in traditional interpretations of the Judeo-Christian God as I believe it does, this track represents looking back on everything the narrator knows in a new, less rose-tinted perspective. [4. Cabin Essence]
Continuing both the retrospective on American history but with a bleaker set of goggles on. Now the Americans aren't just abusing the prior occupants, but Mother Nature itself. [5. Elements]
Fire/Undersea Skit/Breathing Skit (including the laughter.) I see this as musical symbol representing a spiritual rebirth. Fire is the old humanity of the Pisces age destroying the environment. Water is being born again (where did life come from?), Air is reemerging from the water onto land, and the laughter is developing a new spirituality. Brian himself considered laughter a spiritual experience, which is where the name "SMiLE" comes from. [6. Vega-Tables]
The Earth section of the elements (it's either this or Workshop.) This bookmarks the suite with the funny tracks, and represents finding a new way since the old one didn't work. Our old society was violent and cruel, its religion left much to be desired, its inhabitants were hypocritical, greedy and destroyed the environment. The new society will be at peace with the environment and guided by the stars (Vega). This Side ends with the Veggie Argument which, in this context is meant to be ironic. This old man is yelling at a teenager to get off his land...but it's not really his land to begin with since his ancestors stole it. That, and just tying in the joke/metaphor of veggies as...other kinds of plants ("I threw away my candybar and I ate the wrapper"/"tripped on a cornucopia..."). Basically, the song could also be about smoking weed and the way it often changes your perspective, hence ending things on a stoner wandering into the neighbor's garden and acting all aloof at his threats. [7. Wonderful]
Start with the xylophone take of "I'm in Great Shape" on the boxset sessions as an unlisted intro to Wonderful. I always thought Wonderful began too abruptly, and IIGS sounds really nice with it in my opinion. By itself, Great Shape is too short and unfinished to be it's own song. However, since it's used on the tracklist, I like to pay homage to the "feel" somewhere on the album, and in my opinion this is where it sounds best. [8. Wind Chimes]
The last song was about retreating into one's shell a bit for awhile, before coming out again. I see this track as exploring the same concept. [9. Child is Father of the Man]
I like how similar WC's fade and Child's piano intro are. This track could be taken as either meeting the right partner (after the first love in Wonderful didn't work out) and having a baby. Or alternatively, it could be ruminating on that past trauma and how that abusive or at least unfulfilling romance changed the person you are in the future. The child fathers the man, so to speak. [10. Surf's Up]
Bookended by George Fell as a lead-in, and Prayer as a finale. Using the "Talking Horns" section where the horns sound like they're wailing in anguish in the final fadeout. In this way, the album is about a young person dealing with trauma, overcoming it and leading a better life going forward. It mirrors the growth and message of Side 1, but represented through an intimate journey of an individual as opposed to America and the world at large. Side 1 is about nationalism and monotheism because those are the core values of the Age of Pisces. Side 2 is about an individual's journey because Aquarius is said to return power and expression to the individual. Surf's Up with its crumbling institutions ("columnated ruins domino") references this development. By ending on "a children's song" it calls back to the first track--Heroes and Villains ("my children were raised") and by referencing paints ("canvas the town and brush the backdrop") it calls back to OMP and the idea of replacing outdated religious values with ones more in tune with our modern world. According to contemporary interviews, SMiLE would have been 10 or 12 tracks. So you can consider this the ending if you want to, or go on to the optional final song... [11. Good Vibrations]It's a great song but to my ears it always sounds out of place on this album. It just doesn't fit the instrumental motif of pianos and horns that Side 2 has, nor the themes. That said, it would stick out like an even bigger sore thumb on Side 1. So, if you put it here you can listen if you want or just cut the album early if you'd rather not. There you go. This is the SMiLE mix I want to make someday in the future when my current projects are done. As far as Im concerned this ties all the disparate songs and themes together perfectly. (Though you're all free to disagree.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 6:51:28 GMT -5
Copying my mix from psf (thank you google cache!)... LISTEN/DOWNLOAD LINKWell, I've finally updated my personal smile mix for the first time since 2009. Yes, a lot has changed in the world of smile since then. I had been enjoying all the new studio material without diving into making a mix myself. But after listening to the incredible "Pocket Symphony Mix" by Spoonito, which featured a continuous listening experience from start to finish, I found myself eager to try something similar. PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A DEPICTION OF: "What Smile could have been", "A historically accurate version", "What Brian wanted Smile to be", etc. This is just one of those fun personal mixes in which I used many of my favorite moments from sessions (a lot of them) to create a fun listening experience. If you are offended by certain ideas involved in toying with Smile, e.g., using a small BWPS segment to fill a gap, ignore this post and move on please! With that qualifier out of the way, here is what I have done with my mix. I call it the "5-Suite Pocket Symphony". Each of the 5 tracks has a central idea/theme and reoccuring segments. I like to think each one tells a story. For example, in Child Is Father OF The Man, you have something of a love story in addition to the standard depiction of generational ruin and rebirth. I relied heavily on the pocket symphony mix I referenced above as well as original sources and fan mixes. SummertimeBlooz's tracks were very helpful, I actually didn't touch his extended Good Vibrations which I use as the final track. I drew from the amazing The Smile A.D. 4.0 mix, which is really an incredible mix. In fact I should note the mixes I drew from are far more impressive than what I have put together here for my own tastes, and I thank those who worked so hard on these to make it easy for me to develop this The breakdown is below, showing where the material in each track was sourced from. Barto's "5-Suite Pocket Symphony" Smile Mix: 1. Heroes And Villains (Our Prayer > Gee > Heroes And Villains > Do You Like Worms? > Holidays > Do You Like Worms? > Cabinessence > Heroes And Villains > I’m In Great Shape > Barnyard > The Old Master Painter > My Only Sunshine > With Me Tonight > Vega-Tables > Heroes And Villains > Cantina > Children Were Raised > Heroes And Villains > Cabinessence > Do You Like Worms?) 2. Child Is Father Of The Man (Child Is Father Of The Man > Wonderful > Song For Children > Children Were Raised > He Gives Speeches > Teeter-Totter Love > Wonderful > Song For Children > Child Is Father Of The Man > Surf’s Up) 3. My Only Sunshine (Heroes And Villains > My Only Sunshine > I Wanna Be Around > Workshop > Brian Falls Into A Piano > Heroes And Villains > My Only Sunshine) 4. The Elements (Holidays (Tag) > Wind Chimes > Fire (Mrs. O’Leary's Cow) > Three Blind Mice > Water Chant > Cool, Cool, Water > Love To Say Dada > Our Prayer) 5. Good Vibrations (Extended Mix) LISTEN HERE: www.dropbox.com/sh/9jzt6mzddlrrgcz/AAAr_VejIQHAdraq-1lPeEK8a?dl=0
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 15:03:21 GMT -5
PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A DEPICTION OF: "What Smile could have been", "A historically accurate version", "What Brian wanted Smile to be", etc. This is just one of those fun personal mixes in which I used many of my favorite moments from sessions (a lot of them) to create a fun listening experience. If you are offended by certain ideas involved in toying with Smile, e.g., using a small BWPS segment to fill a gap, ignore this post and move on please! i
That's the way I proceed with my mixes, too. You might call it a "kitchen sink" mix, but I want to make sure I include ALL of my favorite parts! First, I want to enjoy it, and second, I want others who hear it to enjoy it, too. That doesn't mean I ignore history or the facts that we do have; that definitely affects the sequencing.
barto, you get docked one grade for using material from BWPS!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 19:48:06 GMT -5
I see that barto uses "With Me Tonight" in his mix. Does anybody else? I love the song, even the shorter snippets, and I try to work some part of it into my mixes. But, is it technically a SMiLE song, or according to the timeline, does it just barely fall over to Smiley Smile? Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 21:55:45 GMT -5
I see that barto uses "With Me Tonight" in his mix. Does anybody else? I love the song, even the shorter snippets, and I try to work some part of it into my mixes. But, is it technically a SMiLE song, or according to the timeline, does it just barely fall over to Smiley Smile? Thoughts? I lifted this section straight from Spoonitos mix...probably unnecessary but it works as a nice little intro to vegetables
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Post by M.I.U. Fan on Jan 6, 2019 0:17:28 GMT -5
(Prayer) H&V (cantina) Wonderful Holidays Cabinessence The Elements: Fire Child is Father of the Man (BW edit)
Good Vibes Wind Chimes Look Vegetables Do You Like Worms Surfs Up
No funny business, just the tracks, ma'am.
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Post by Mikie on Jan 6, 2019 13:06:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 6:16:56 GMT -5
Anyway, as you can see it's easy to set me off and I go on and write books about this album, so I'm going to force myself not to reply after this. I'm just restating my own ideas once again and I don't want to intimidate or over-crowd anyone else from offering their own take, much less get dragged into a whole acrimonious debate like at SS. I have other writing projects I want to work on now like my blogs and a mock policy platform, so I don't want to get too ensconced in SMiLE again. At least not right now. I'll just leave this topic with a tenuous tracklist for what I want my next SMiLE mix to be, sometime in the distant future when I can devote time to making it.
[10. Surf's Up]
Bookended by George Fell as a lead-in, and Prayer as a finale. Using the "Talking Horns" section where the horns sound like they're wailing in anguish in the final fadeout. In this way, the album is about a young person dealing with trauma, overcoming it and leading a better life going forward. It mirrors the growth and message of Side 1, but represented through an intimate journey of an individual as opposed to America and the world at large. Side 1 is about nationalism and monotheism because those are the core values of the Age of Pisces. Side 2 is about an individual's journey because Aquarius is said to return power and expression to the individual. Surf's Up with its crumbling institutions ("columnated ruins domino") references this development. By ending on "a children's song" it calls back to the first track--Heroes and Villains ("my children were raised") and by referencing paints ("canvas the town and brush the backdrop") it calls back to OMP and the idea of replacing outdated religious values with ones more in tune with our modern world. According to contemporary interviews, SMiLE would have been 10 or 12 tracks. So you can consider this the ending if you want to, or go on to the optional final song... [11. Good Vibrations]It's a great song but to my ears it always sounds out of place on this album. It just doesn't fit the instrumental motif of pianos and horns that Side 2 has, nor the themes. That said, it would stick out like an even bigger sore thumb on Side 1. So, if you put it here you can listen if you want or just cut the album early if you'd rather not. Something to look forward to, @iluvleniloud. Until then, Aquarian SMiLE is my go-to mix. No optional final song for me. And... no need to answer this (a "like" will suffice).
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Post by kds on Jan 12, 2019 12:14:19 GMT -5
Short and sweet
Our Prayer Heroes and Villains (single / SS version) Cabinessence Wonderful A Song For Children Child is the Father of the Man Surf's Up (1971 version with Carl on verses) Wind Chimes Fire Good Vibrations (Smile Sessions version)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 14:47:43 GMT -5
Short and sweet Our Prayer Heroes and Villains (single / SS version) Cabinessence Wonderful A Song For Children Child is the Father of the Man Surf's Up (1971 version with Carl on verses) Wind Chimes Fire Good Vibrations (Smile Sessions version) What about "Vegetables"? I know, I know...
But you know, that's not a bad mix, and if you followed "Fire" with "Woodshop" into "Vegetables", it would be a great mix!
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Post by kds on Jan 12, 2019 15:02:00 GMT -5
Short and sweet Our Prayer Heroes and Villains (single / SS version) Cabinessence Wonderful A Song For Children Child is the Father of the Man Surf's Up (1971 version with Carl on verses) Wind Chimes Fire Good Vibrations (Smile Sessions version) What about "Vegetables"? I know, I know...
But you know, that's not a bad mix, and if you followed "Fire" with "Woodshop" into "Vegetables", it would be a great mix! I think Woodshop is pointless filler. Its somewhat ironic that adding Vegetables would add unnecessary fat.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 20:08:09 GMT -5
Not my go-to mix, but I did an LP + EP mix a while back on PSF and might as well repost it here LP (https://soundcloud.com/b-bonanza/smile-mix-pt-1?in=b-bonanza/sets/smile) Side 1: - Our Prayer
- Good Vibrations
- Do You Like Worms?
- Holidays
- Wonderful
- Look
- Cabin Essence
Side 2: - Heroes and Villains (Personal mix, ~5 mins)
- Wind Chimes
- The Elements: Water and Fire (Fire with the Water chant as an intro)
- I Wanna Be Around/Friday Night
- Child Is Father of the Man
- The Old Master Painter/You Were My Sunshine (Replaces fade with the CIFotM bridge)
- Surf's Up
Another mix without "Vegetables"!!!!!
But I love "Holidays" after "Worms". I always thought that was a good fit. I mentioned it a couple of times in previous posts/threads (and was in the minority), but I always thought "Holidays" sounded nautical and paired up nicely with the equally-nautical "Do You Like Worms". I was very surprised of "Holiday"'s placement on BWPS.
It's also interesting how you separated "Child Is Father Of The Man" from "Wonderful" and "Look". A lot of people, including me, have gone to the trifecta that is on BWPS.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 8:28:56 GMT -5
A question...If you upload a personal SMiLE mix on YouTube, and use versions of songs that are, I don't want to use the term "bootleg", but not officially released versions - like soniclovenoize or Barnshine or Moniker or JMZ - you know, homemade versions, will YouTube shut it down for copyright infringement? Or do you have to stick with the officially released stuff like the SMiLE Sessions box set?
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Post by John Manning on Jan 15, 2019 9:25:32 GMT -5
A question...If you upload a personal SMiLE mix on YouTube, and use versions of songs that are, I don't want to use the term "bootleg", but not officially released versions - like soniclovenoize or Barnshine or Moniker or JMZ - you know, homemade versions, will YouTube shut it down for copyright infringement? Or do you have to stick with the officially released stuff like the SMiLE Sessions box set? Good question. I have no knowledge or experience but always assumed the unofficial understanding was that we’d been gifted a “roll your own”, so home-mades ought to be tolerated. Seems pointless though to upload officially released material untampered. Maybe someone who’s had a cease and desist might be able to shed light?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 13:02:20 GMT -5
"Tune X" - do you put it on your SMiLE mix? If yes, where? I see that saltymarshmallow includes it as a bonus track. If no, why not?
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Post by eraserheadbaby on Jan 20, 2019 14:53:52 GMT -5
"Tune X" - do you put it on your SMiLE mix? If yes, where? I see that saltymarshmallow includes it as a bonus track. If no, why not? I mean, I don't think it was really intended for Smile. I'd see it as like a side project kinda deal
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Post by soniclovenoize on Jan 21, 2019 12:41:30 GMT -5
Side A: 1. Our Prayer / Heroes and Villains (Cantina mix) 2. Vege-Tables 3. Do You Like Worms? 4. Child is Father of The Man (3 min edit) 5. The Old Master Painter 6. Cabin Essence Side B: 7. Good Vibrations 8. Wonderful 9. I’m In Great Shape (IIGS/Barnyard/IWBA/Workshop) 10. Wind Chimes 11. The Elements (Fire + versions of Dada to represent other elements) 12. Surf’s Up albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-beach-boys-smile-upgrade.html
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 18:53:47 GMT -5
Side A: 1. Our Prayer / Heroes and Villains (Cantina mix) 2. Vege-Tables 3. Do You Like Worms? 4. Child is Father of The Man (3 min edit) 5. The Old Master Painter 6. Cabin Essence Side B: 7. Good Vibrations 8. Wonderful 9. I’m In Great Shape (IIGS/Barnyard/IWBA/Workshop) 10. Wind Chimes 11. The Elements (Fire + versions of Dada to represent other elements) 12. Surf’s Up albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-beach-boys-smile-upgrade.htmlExcellent mix as usual!
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Post by Mikie on Jan 21, 2019 21:08:26 GMT -5
For Soniclovenoize - regarding your latest updated Smile mix:
1. May '66 Reconstruction. GV instrumental track with theremin. Are you familiar with the 1976 Beach Boys radio special called "The Best Summers Of Our Lives"? It was the first public exposure to the alternate Good Vibrations with Tony Asher's lyrics. At the very end where announcer Charlie Van Dyke is reading the credits, this GV section is playing in the background. It could be on the 2011 Smile Sessions, but I don't recall ever hearing this Good Vibrations instrumental part since the radio special. Though my memory could be fading......and that's definitely a possibility. Do you know what I'm talking about?
2. March '66 Reconstruction. Alternate GV (Tony Asher lyrics). "IIIIIII only looked in her eyes, but __ picked up somethin' I just can't explain." Not sure why, but there's a drop-out there where the "I" goes. Also, was the following intentional? "I, I bet I know what she's like, and I can feel how good she'd be for me. Did you replace "right" with "good"? Or is there an alternate alternate take of Good Vibrations out there?
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Post by petsite on Jan 23, 2019 9:25:57 GMT -5
Side A: 1. Our Prayer / Heroes and Villains (Cantina mix) 2. Vege-Tables 3. Do You Like Worms? 4. Child is Father of The Man (3 min edit) 5. The Old Master Painter 6. Cabin Essence Side B: 7. Good Vibrations 8. Wonderful 9. I’m In Great Shape (IIGS/Barnyard/IWBA/Workshop) 10. Wind Chimes 11. The Elements (Fire + versions of Dada to represent other elements) 12. Surf’s Up albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-beach-boys-smile-upgrade.htmlJust a quick aside, why did you use the Invasion Unlimited version of LANDLOCKED rather than say the PegBoy version? IU version is heavily compressed.
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Post by soniclovenoize on Feb 22, 2019 13:50:11 GMT -5
For Soniclovenoize - regarding your latest updated Smile mix: 1. May '66 Reconstruction. GV instrumental track with theremin. Are you familiar with the 1976 Beach Boys radio special called "The Best Summers Of Our Lives"? It was the first public exposure to the alternate Good Vibrations with Tony Asher's lyrics. At the very end where announcer Charlie Van Dyke is reading the credits, this GV section is playing in the background. It could be on the 2011 Smile Sessions, but I don't recall ever hearing this Good Vibrations instrumental part since the radio special. Though my memory could be fading......and that's definitely a possibility. Do you know what I'm talking about? 2. March '66 Reconstruction. Alternate GV (Tony Asher lyrics). "IIIIIII only looked in her eyes, but __ picked up somethin' I just can't explain." Not sure why, but there's a drop-out there where the "I" goes. Also, was the following intentional? "I, I bet I know what she's like, and I can feel how good she'd be for me. Did you replace "right" with "good"? Or is there an alternate alternate take of Good Vibrations out there? 1) Sorry, i don't recall that mix of GV. But if you heard it in my May '66 Reconstruction, then it is in The Smile Sessions, as my reconstruction uses bits and pieces from Disc 5, Tracks 2-10. iirc, the verses I used were from the 4/9 retracking (It's not May, but close enough), Track 2. Then I think I used each of the chorus re-records once, so it is constantly changing. Sorry, I no longer have my notes of what takes I used.
2) The "I" is still there, it's just pretty inaudible on my mix. Not intentional. The lyric is sort of slurred in the first place, more like "But... (pause)... uh-picked up somethin..."
Also, both "right" and "good" are sung simultaneously on each of the two vocal tracks; since I collapsed the vocal track to mono, both lyrics are being sung in unison. So if you listen carefully, you can still hear the "good" underneath the "right".
FYI for my mix, it's basically just the instrumental stereo mix on The Smile Sessions (Disc 5, Track 1), but with the vocals synced up to it (extracted from Unsurpassed Masters vol 15 via center-channel elimination).
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