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Post by Micha on Jun 2, 2024 7:32:33 GMT -5
And according to the guys on the Sail On podcast, the source the version of "I Get Around" that's used on Beach Boys Concert, Brian actually overdubbed audience noises to the original multitrack of "I Get Around," wiping out a track or two in the process, so apparently the complete multitracks for that song are not intact either, preventing a 100% true stereo "I Get Around" from happening without some technical wizardry. AAAAARGH!!!!!  How stupid is THAT?!?!? And they did a great performance if IGA in Sacramento that he could've used instead. Can't they develop a technique to salvage taped over stuff?? |
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Post by nts1drums on Jun 2, 2024 11:29:30 GMT -5
And according to the guys on the Sail On podcast, the source the version of "I Get Around" that's used on Beach Boys Concert, Brian actually overdubbed audience noises to the original multitrack of "I Get Around," wiping out a track or two in the process, so apparently the complete multitracks for that song are not intact either, preventing a 100% true stereo "I Get Around" from happening without some technical wizardry. AAAAARGH!!!!! How stupid is THAT?!?!? And they did a great performance if IGA in Sacramento that he could've used instead. Can't they develop a technique to salvage taped over stuff?? At that time it wasn’t as important. Retrospectively it was terrible but in those days when people were churning out music like a factory they would do anything to get stuff done. Ofc I’m not sure if the multitrack was actually messed with but it would make sense given that we only have single tracked vocals. Worst case scenario, if you wanted to recreate that double tracked vocal performance, ADT is an option. It would sound ugly, but it would get close. |
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Post by WillJC on Jun 2, 2024 11:35:40 GMT -5
Brian didn't tape over anything on I Get Around for the Concert album.
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Post by nts1drums on Jun 2, 2024 13:41:06 GMT -5
Brian didn't tape over anything on I Get Around for the Concert album. My mistake. So that’s just a missing tape? |
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Post by WillJC on Jun 2, 2024 14:22:14 GMT -5
Brian didn't tape over anything on I Get Around for the Concert album. My mistake. So that’s just a missing tape? Yeah, just missing. |
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Post by Micha on Jun 2, 2024 18:44:16 GMT -5
My mistake. So that’s just a missing tape? Yeah, just missing. Oooofh! What a relief to read this!  He still should've used the actual live recording. |
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Post by Mopp on Jun 3, 2024 6:08:23 GMT -5
Oooofh! What a relief to read this! He still should've used the actual live recording. They even did "live-in-the-studio" recordings for the Concert Album versions of this and Fun Fun Fun, they just didn't use them! Brian is a fascinating man. |
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Post by dauber on Jun 3, 2024 7:20:00 GMT -5
Sure, they might have done a "live in the studio" version of "I Get Around," but on the Concert album it actually starts with the actual single version and fades into the studio re-creation. That always bugged me.
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Post by lonelysummer on Jun 3, 2024 15:23:32 GMT -5
Do any pictures of Carl exist from the "infamous" 1978 Perth show? We have video of that show, don't we? |
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Post by lonelysummer on Jun 3, 2024 15:25:29 GMT -5
I’m not sure if anyone else has noticed this or if it’s already been brought up before, but I noticed two things during a listen of the classic When a Man Needs a Woman: 1. There’s this buzzing noise that’s pretty prominent in the center channel (and even more obvious in the alternate version). Did something go wrong when the group were doing the vocals? I’m assuming that’s where it comes from since the vocals are almost always centered in the stereo mix for the Friends album 2. During the last verse, there’s this distant voice behind Brian. What is that?? It’s only in the original mix and it sounds like a vocal that’s meant to be a response or something but it got mixed way low. Oh, the beauty of 1960s recordings - before all these tools came along to wipe out any and all mistakes. |
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Post by jay on Jun 3, 2024 16:05:22 GMT -5
Do any pictures of Carl exist from the "infamous" 1978 Perth show? We have video of that show, don't we? Not that one. |
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Post by longtime lurker on Jun 3, 2024 16:24:41 GMT -5
Are there any audiotapes of BB shows from 1974? I'm asking about complete or nearly complete shows on tape, not just a couple of songs from one show and a couple from another. Thanks (naturally) in advance.
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Post by jk on Jun 3, 2024 16:40:09 GMT -5
Are there any audiotapes of BB shows from 1974? I'm asking about complete or nearly complete shows on tape, not just a couple of songs from one show and a couple from another. Thanks (naturally) in advance. Well, there's this gig at Boston Garden, Boston MA on 23 November, although I understand it isn't complete: And this one at Orlando Sports Stadium in Florida on 14 April, which looks like it's the whole thing: Go to YouTube for more info... |
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Post by dauber on Jun 3, 2024 19:13:20 GMT -5
Are there any audiotapes of BB shows from 1974? I'm asking about complete or nearly complete shows on tape, not just a couple of songs from one show and a couple from another. Thanks (naturally) in advance. There's the Help Me, Tampa bootleg; that's a '74 concert. |
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Post by AGD on Jun 4, 2024 3:15:38 GMT -5
Are there any audiotapes of BB shows from 1974? I'm asking about complete or nearly complete shows on tape, not just a couple of songs from one show and a couple from another. Thanks (naturally) in advance. June 14th gig at Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale NY was broadcast live on FM radio, and in stereo too! |
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Post by jk on Jun 4, 2024 4:19:21 GMT -5
Are there any audiotapes of BB shows from 1974? I'm asking about complete or nearly complete shows on tape, not just a couple of songs from one show and a couple from another. Thanks (naturally) in advance. June 14th gig at Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale NY was broadcast live on FM radio, and in stereo too! Here it is: |
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Post by Cam Mott on Jun 8, 2024 12:14:31 GMT -5
In the docu, did Marilyn say Murry split the proceeds of the sale of Sea of Tunes catalog with Brian, or did I imagine it?
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Post by Matt H on Jun 11, 2024 11:30:09 GMT -5
Brian’s instagram appears to say that Down By The Pier was written by him. I’ve always seen it as written by Carl. Am I reading this wrong? http://instagram.com/p/C8CUmLtOD2v |
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Post by gigantiskpyjamas on Jun 11, 2024 12:06:18 GMT -5
Brian’s instagram appears to say that Down By The Pier was written by him. I’ve always seen it as written by Carl. Am I reading this wrong? http://instagram.com/p/C8CUmLtOD2v I read it that way as well. Sessionography in ESQ says “Carl Wilson, possibly with Tom Kelly — Billy Steinberg”. ‘Oh Lord’ recorded during the 1985 album sessions? Is this true or some sort of typo? |
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Post by WillJC on Jun 11, 2024 12:22:22 GMT -5
Neither Down By the Pier nor Oh Lord were recorded during the BB85 sessions. The former was something Carl did independently later that year, the latter wasn't attempted at all.
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Post by AGD on Jun 11, 2024 13:00:24 GMT -5
Neither Down By the Pier nor Oh Lord were recorded during the BB85 sessions. The former was something Carl did independently later that year, the latter wasn't attempted at all. Seems my source for that info (initials of "BE") was less than accurate... |
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Post by E on Jun 11, 2024 13:17:19 GMT -5
Damn. Always hope Oh Lord had been recorded...
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Post by WillJC on Jun 11, 2024 14:22:58 GMT -5
It's always possible that one of the missing '81-'82 untitled Brian sessions was for a studio version of Oh Lord. Carolyn Williams once seemed to imply that it had been recorded, at least. As far as BB85 outtakes go, Brian's only other material was Water Builds Up, What's Wrong With Starting Out Now, and Oh Not This Again.
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Post by Matt H on Jun 11, 2024 16:46:57 GMT -5
It's always possible that one of the missing '81-'82 untitled Brian sessions was for a studio version of Oh Lord. Carolyn Williams once seemed to imply that it had been recorded, at least. As far as BB85 outtakes go, Brian's only other material was Water Builds Up, What's Wrong With Starting Out Now, and Oh Not This Again. Thanks for all the responses about Down By the Pier. Was What's Wrong With Starting Out Now, or Oh Not This Again what became California Role? |
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Post by AGD on Jun 11, 2024 17:22:49 GMT -5
Nope: "California Role" was originally called "Wondering What You're Up To Now", with lyrics aimed at a former partner. A tad unpleasant, as I recall.
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How stupid is THAT?!?!? And they did a great performance if IGA in Sacramento that he could've used instead.
He still should've used the actual live recording.
