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Post by newbbfan on Dec 10, 2022 14:30:58 GMT -5
In the alternative take of make it good, is that Dennis singing falsetto? Don't think I've ever heard or thought about Dennis and falsetto.
Also, since I'm listening to the streaming service and don't have the liner notes, is anyone know if they're published independently somewhere? I've been obsessing about it he come down and I wonder who exactly is in the band and in the vocal mix on that song and of course dozens of others I suppose.
Allen's adaptation of the Robert Frost poem is extraordinary and it's kind of thing that one could certainly use in class as an illustration of a beautiful beautiful recitation that brings out the meaning of the poetry.
And he seems so self-conscious about it afterward when he's explaining to Carl but I hope Al knows how proud he should be of the beautiful Melody and great chords and wonderful spiritual adaptation of that poem as a foundational step toward the creation of all this is that.
And I don't mind repeating here if I may that when they played that cut at the Grammy Museum Mike was I believe in raptured with the memory and I'm sure he was thinking fondly of Al at that moment and also if Carl. He flashed deep emotion subtly and nobly about each of his bandmates at one point or another during the interview.
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Post by debonbon on Dec 10, 2022 17:54:25 GMT -5
Allen's adaptation of the Robert Frost poem is extraordinary and it's kind of thing that one could certainly use in class as an illustration of a beautiful beautiful recitation that brings out the meaning of the poetry. *Robinson Jeffers (sorry, I don’t mean to be that guy) Am I the only one who finds Beaks of Eagles embarrassingly bad? Probably.
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Post by newbbfan on Dec 10, 2022 19:04:14 GMT -5
I believe we're talking about two different songs. I'm talking about the distinct track on the album which is simply Al creating music and Melody for the Robert Frost poem The Road Not taken. I'm not referring to the adaptation of the Robinson Jeffers poem later in the California saga. And the entire work here of the Beach Boys in adapting poetry is wonderful Allen's adaptation of the Robert Frost poem is extraordinary and it's kind of thing that one could certainly use in class as an illustration of a beautiful beautiful recitation that brings out the meaning of the poetry. *Robinson Jeffers (sorry, I don’t mean to be that guy) Am I the only one who finds Beaks of Eagles embarrassingly bad? Probably.
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Post by longtime lurker on Dec 10, 2022 20:36:41 GMT -5
Having listened to the new box set remaster of CATP, I have to say that, for me, it's a rather underwhelming piece of work (though the new mix...has it actually been remixed or only remastered?...has certainly improved the audio, which is an undeniable plus👍). There definitely ARE a few decent songs here...correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe this was the first BB album to feature pedal steel guitar and banjo (yes I know the Cotton Fields 45 had them, but that wasn't the version on the 20/20 album). To its credit, CATP has a few genuinely rocking tunes, and they are all superior to Student Demonstration Time (🤮) on the previous album. It's unfortunate, though, that a couple of the best things recorded during these sessions were left in the tape vault (NOT, of course, the 1st time that ever happened in BB World!). Anyway, I've taken the liberty to devise my own "fantasy" version of CATP (no, I haven't actually assembled it and put it online...I'm regrettably not that computer savvy) and would like everybody's opinion on it...feel free to be as positive or negative as you want:
First, I have altered the title. I think most here would agree that Carl And The Passions-So Tough was maybe NOT the best thing the band could have thought up. My new title is: What's New In '72. Now to the tracklist:
Side A: You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone (I fully agree with the BBs decision to make this the album opener) Oh Sweet Something I've Got A Friend (obviously with a dennis vocal...too bad there isn't a finished version) Out In The Country (version 1) (This would've been a great song for Al) Awake (does anybody here know when this was recorded?....would love to know)
Side B: Marcella (which SHOULD HAVE been the side 2 opener on CATP) All This Is That Sweet And Bitter (again, does anybody have a recording date for this?) Carry Me Home (INSANE that this never got included on an official BB album) Here She Comes (originally on side 1 of CATP....personally I think it works very well as a closer)
10 songs...running time: approximately 37 minutes
What y'all think? Looking forward to replies.
Addendum: Had a late realization that Carry Me Home might have been recorded AFTER the CATP sessions. Can anybody supply a recording date? If that's the case, I would substitute Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again.
Also, I think a finished version of Rooftop Harry would have been a very cool B side to the Mess Of Help single.
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Post by debonbon on Dec 10, 2022 20:38:10 GMT -5
I believe we're talking about two different songs. I'm talking about the distinct track on the album which is simply Al creating music and Melody for the Robert Frost poem The Road Not taken. I'm not referring to the adaptation of the Robinson Jeffers poem later in the California saga. And the entire work here of the Beach Boys in adapting poetry is wonderful *Robinson Jeffers (sorry, I don’t mean to be that guy) Am I the only one who finds Beaks of Eagles embarrassingly bad? Probably. My apologies.
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Post by newbbfan on Dec 10, 2022 20:47:51 GMT -5
Oh no need for apology as we were talking about two different texts. I think the beaks of eagles is just fine and I am certainly a fan of that sort of poetry in that celebration of the landscape and I think it winds up being extremely meaningful. Beach Boys travel 10,000 miles away or whatever it is and right about the mythological landscape of california. Scholars say something pretentious which is that X or Y tends to quote unquote repay study, but I will tell you it's true of this collection because everything I dip into on every level is so deeply rewarding. How many of you have been living with this day and night in dream and in waking. All this music is so incredible and so tremendously spiritual on all sorts of levels of naturalism and transcendental philosophy and old school Bible thumping Revival and the Beautiful, I guess sort of ethical, religion of community and Community among all peoples bound together by love. That last is less specifically religious but more absolutely compelling to those who perhaps are of no particular faith. What a wonderful experience and happy to share it with all of you other listeners and fans of the Beach Boys. You need a mess of help to stand alone is itself an ethical fortress. I believe we're talking about two different songs. I'm talking about the distinct track on the album which is simply Al creating music and Melody for the Robert Frost poem The Road Not taken. I'm not referring to the adaptation of the Robinson Jeffers poem later in the California saga. And the entire work here of the Beach Boys in adapting poetry is wonderful My apologies.
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Dec 11, 2022 12:07:02 GMT -5
The more and more I listen to this box, the more and more I like it. Still has tons and tons of minor annoyances, and I will never ever ever listen to the “Holland” remaster or that atrocious surround mix ever again. But little nuggets like the stripped back Dennis tracks, a couple of the live things and of course the new Brian tracks are very very cool. Overall still probably like a six out of 10 because of the absolutely bizarre and weird choices and exclusions, but very much still worth a listen. I very very very much would not recommend paying $149 or $200+ for it though, it is not worth that much especially compared to its brother set from last year that you can now get for half of the price of this one.
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Post by Mikie on Dec 11, 2022 12:37:16 GMT -5
The more and more I listen to this box, the more and more I like it. Still has tons and tons of minor annoyances, and I will never ever ever listen to the “Holland” remaster or that atrocious surround mix ever again. But little nuggets like the stripped back Dennis tracks, a couple of the live things and of course the new Brian tracks are very very cool. Overall still probably like a six out of 10 because of the absolutely bizarre and weird choices and exclusions, but very much still worth a listen. I very very very much would not recommend paying $149 or $200+ for it though, it is not worth that much especially compared to its brother set from last year that you can now get for half of the price of this one. So by "minor annoyances", you mean the speed issues with a few of the tracks. But of course there's a LOT to like here....
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Dec 11, 2022 13:02:52 GMT -5
The more and more I listen to this box, the more and more I like it. Still has tons and tons of minor annoyances, and I will never ever ever listen to the “Holland” remaster or that atrocious surround mix ever again. But little nuggets like the stripped back Dennis tracks, a couple of the live things and of course the new Brian tracks are very very cool. Overall still probably like a six out of 10 because of the absolutely bizarre and weird choices and exclusions, but very much still worth a listen. I very very very much would not recommend paying $149 or $200+ for it though, it is not worth that much especially compared to its brother set from last year that you can now get for half of the price of this one. So by "minor annoyances", you mean the speed issues with a few of the tracks. But of course there's a LOT to like here.... no not just the speed mistakes, I’ve got plenty of other little annoyances… Missing vocal on “Out In The Country” V1. “Just For You”, “Sea Cruise” and other strange exclusions. Discs not full, almost two hours of empty space across all six CDs. Lack of vintage 1972 mixes, including Brian’s original “Funky Pretty” mix literally mentioned in the liners. Not great remasters or surround mixes, frequently distorts especially on “Holland”. Included 48 page booklet still very much not helpful and far from the info included with the “Pet Sounds” and “Smile Sessions” boxes of before or what’s being offered by their contemporaries. But still I think it’s a nice enough set that the majority seem to like, and continues to push more of these less popular years into the public consciousness. Will be very, very fascinating to see where it lands on this weeks billboard 200 compared to the last two sets.
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Post by B.E. on Dec 11, 2022 13:36:40 GMT -5
I'm enjoying the set, but I agree that the exclusion of "Just For You" is particularly strange and surprising.
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Dec 11, 2022 14:03:13 GMT -5
I'm enjoying the set, but I agree that the exclusion of "Just For You" is particularly strange and surprising. a couple weeks ago the group dropped a random EP of Christmas instrumentals that went kinda unnoticed by most… music.apple.com/us/album/the-beach-boys-christmas-instrumentals-ep/1650881608It would be an absolute delight if they’d drop the remaining Dennis 71-72 tracks on a little digital EP just like that. Won’t happen but it should. It would be even cooler if they took a note from Brian’s new website and randomly uploaded some rarities left off the past releases to a little audio section. Even if they charged like a dollar apiece for each, it would still be quite cool.
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Post by smash em now on Dec 11, 2022 14:28:07 GMT -5
I find it just heartwarming and chilling at the same time in only with you, when Carl says that was written by Dennis and michael. And recall that in Mike's interview at the Grammys last week, he told howie "I really wish you would play that song". And Mike seem to remember it as a really wonderful collaboration.
I think just recently Mike told someone that his favorite Beach Boys era in terms of music was the early '70s. When asked why his touring version of The Beach Boys doesn't do that stuff, he said, "You gotta read the room."
It's too bad he won't read the room before playing Pisces Brothers.
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Post by newbbfan on Dec 11, 2022 15:19:02 GMT -5
Yes in all honesty that's another song that people ignored or took a bathroom break at the Greek theater. Unfortunately warmth of the sun is in that category too. Certain songs would work in a small intimate unplugged environment with either Mike and Bruce or any number of the Beach Boys and they work in the storytelling show and the small shows that Al does in that family intimate environment. But songs like warmth of the Sun and all I want to do and Pisces Brothers and others are just not going to reach a crowd that doesn't know the name of the band members or who's still alive or anything other than a song from full house or going to Disneyland or, like my parents were like really into that. For that reason it will be interesting whether any of the individual tracks here discussed could find themselves into performance. I think it would take a very focused act to want to introduce and contextualize those and Blondie and Ricky showed up for a few shows it would be outstanding. I believe a song like we've got love which is just incredible and totally eye-opening would be a fantastic choice from this album to be performed live and even released as a hit single.
I think just recently Mike told someone that his favorite Beach Boys era in terms of music was the early '70s. When asked why his touring version of The Beach Boys doesn't do that stuff, he said, "You gotta read the room."
It's too bad he won't read the room before playing Pisces Brothers.
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Post by longtime lurker on Dec 11, 2022 20:50:52 GMT -5
So by "minor annoyances", you mean the speed issues with a few of the tracks. But of course there's a LOT to like here.... no not just the speed mistakes, I’ve got plenty of other little annoyances… Missing vocal on “Out In The Country” V1. “Just For You”, “Sea Cruise” and other strange exclusions. Discs not full, almost two hours of empty space across all six CDs. Lack of vintage 1972 mixes, including Brian’s original “Funky Pretty” mix literally mentioned in the liners. Not great remasters or surround mixes, frequently distorts especially on “Holland”. Included 48 page booklet still very much not helpful and far from the info included with the “Pet Sounds” and “Smile Sessions” boxes of before or what’s being offered by their contemporaries. But still I think it’s a nice enough set that the majority seem to like, and continues to push more of these less popular years into the public consciousness. Will be very, very fascinating to see where it lands on this weeks billboard 200 compared to the last two sets. I wasn't aware that there was originally a vocal on version 1 of out in the country. Wow. Very unfortunate that they didn't include it. Wonder why? Also, never heard of just for you. Who wrote that and approximately when was it recorded?
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Dec 11, 2022 21:10:30 GMT -5
no not just the speed mistakes, I’ve got plenty of other little annoyances… Missing vocal on “Out In The Country” V1. “Just For You”, “Sea Cruise” and other strange exclusions. Discs not full, almost two hours of empty space across all six CDs. Lack of vintage 1972 mixes, including Brian’s original “Funky Pretty” mix literally mentioned in the liners. Not great remasters or surround mixes, frequently distorts especially on “Holland”. Included 48 page booklet still very much not helpful and far from the info included with the “Pet Sounds” and “Smile Sessions” boxes of before or what’s being offered by their contemporaries. But still I think it’s a nice enough set that the majority seem to like, and continues to push more of these less popular years into the public consciousness. Will be very, very fascinating to see where it lands on this weeks billboard 200 compared to the last two sets. I wasn't aware that there was originally a vocal on version 1 of out in the country. Wow. Very unfortunate that they didn't include it. Wonder why? Also, never heard of just for you. Who wrote that and approximately when was it recorded? the out in the country vocal was performed by Don Goldberg, the composer of the song, with The Beach Boys on backing vocals. According to Don, Brian was all ready to put the song on so tough with his vocal, just like he did with Jack on a day in the life of a tree, but Bruce intervened. Just For You was a track written and recorded for the Dennis and Daryl Dragon album in 1971/72, and half of it can be heard here… Both are very strange exclusions.
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Post by longtime lurker on Dec 11, 2022 21:27:44 GMT -5
I wasn't aware that there was originally a vocal on version 1 of out in the country. Wow. Very unfortunate that they didn't include it. Wonder why? Also, never heard of just for you. Who wrote that and approximately when was it recorded? the out in the country vocal was performed by Don Goldberg, the composer of the song, with The Beach Boys on backing vocals. According to Don, Brian was all ready to put the song on so tough with his vocal, just like he did with Jack on a day in the life of a tree, but Bruce intervened. Just For You was a track written and recorded for the Dennis and Daryl Dragon album in 1971/72, and half of it can be heard here… Both are very strange exclusions. Thanks for this. I went over to YT a little while ago and managed to find just for you and the background info you provided. Was going to come back here and say all that but you beat me to it!😆 Odd that this song (or, more accurately, song fragment) wasn't included on the FF box set.
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Dec 11, 2022 22:05:34 GMT -5
the out in the country vocal was performed by Don Goldberg, the composer of the song, with The Beach Boys on backing vocals. According to Don, Brian was all ready to put the song on so tough with his vocal, just like he did with Jack on a day in the life of a tree, but Bruce intervened. Just For You was a track written and recorded for the Dennis and Daryl Dragon album in 1971/72, and half of it can be heard here… Both are very strange exclusions. Thanks for this. I went over to YT a little while ago and managed to find just for you and the background info you provided. Was going to come back here and say all that but you beat me to it!😆 Odd that this song (or, more accurately, song fragment) wasn't included on the FF box set. well, it’s a full song, that link just has half of it. The full thing keeps going and is probably about three minutes
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Post by Awesoman on Dec 12, 2022 8:43:57 GMT -5
Having listened to the new box set remaster of CATP, I have to say that, for me, it's a rather underwhelming piece of work (though the new mix...has it actually been remixed or only remastered?...has certainly improved the audio, which is an undeniable plus👍). There definitely ARE a few decent songs here...correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe this was the first BB album to feature pedal steel guitar and banjo (yes I know the Cotton Fields 45 had them, but that wasn't the version on the 20/20 album). To its credit, CATP has a few genuinely rocking tunes, and they are all superior to Student Demonstration Time (🤮) on the previous album. It's unfortunate, though, that a couple of the best things recorded during these sessions were left in the tape vault (NOT, of course, the 1st time that ever happened in BB World!). Anyway, I've taken the liberty to devise my own "fantasy" version of CATP (no, I haven't actually assembled it and put it online...I'm regrettably not that computer savvy) and would like everybody's opinion on it...feel free to be as positive or negative as you want: First, I have altered the title. I think most here would agree that Carl And The Passions-So Tough was maybe NOT the best thing the band could have thought up. My new title is: What's New In '72. Now to the tracklist: Side A: You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone (I fully agree with the BBs decision to make this the album opener) Oh Sweet Something I've Got A Friend (obviously with a dennis vocal...too bad there isn't a finished version) Out In The Country (version 1) (This would've been a great song for Al) Awake (does anybody here know when this was recorded?....would love to know) Side B: Marcella (which SHOULD HAVE been the side 2 opener on CATP) All This Is That Sweet And Bitter (again, does anybody have a recording date for this?) Carry Me Home (INSANE that this never got included on an official BB album) Here She Comes (originally on side 1 of CATP....personally I think it works very well as a closer) 10 songs...running time: approximately 37 minutes What y'all think? Looking forward to replies. Addendum: Had a late realization that Carry Me Home might have been recorded AFTER the CATP sessions. Can anybody supply a recording date? If that's the case, I would substitute Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again. Also, I think a finished version of Rooftop Harry would have been a very cool B side to the Mess Of Help single. Not a bad alternative track listing but considering how short CATP was to begin with, I don't see any harm with them tacking on a few extra tracks along with what was already listed. "He Come Down" and "Hold On, Dear Brother" deserve inclusion as they ventured the band into both gospel and folk territory. Surprisingly if I were to drop any songs from this album, I would honestly go with the two Dennis tracks that close things out. I know there's a lot of love for them, especially "Cuddle Up", but for the life of me I could never get into them. At least swap out "Make It Good" with "(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again". Not exactly sure when "Carry Me Home" was recorded but it should have been finished and placed on one of these albums.
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Post by longtime lurker on Dec 12, 2022 9:17:38 GMT -5
Having listened to the new box set remaster of CATP, I have to say that, for me, it's a rather underwhelming piece of work (though the new mix...has it actually been remixed or only remastered?...has certainly improved the audio, which is an undeniable plus👍). There definitely ARE a few decent songs here...correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe this was the first BB album to feature pedal steel guitar and banjo (yes I know the Cotton Fields 45 had them, but that wasn't the version on the 20/20 album). To its credit, CATP has a few genuinely rocking tunes, and they are all superior to Student Demonstration Time (🤮) on the previous album. It's unfortunate, though, that a couple of the best things recorded during these sessions were left in the tape vault (NOT, of course, the 1st time that ever happened in BB World!). Anyway, I've taken the liberty to devise my own "fantasy" version of CATP (no, I haven't actually assembled it and put it online...I'm regrettably not that computer savvy) and would like everybody's opinion on it...feel free to be as positive or negative as you want: First, I have altered the title. I think most here would agree that Carl And The Passions-So Tough was maybe NOT the best thing the band could have thought up. My new title is: What's New In '72. Now to the tracklist: Side A: You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone (I fully agree with the BBs decision to make this the album opener) Oh Sweet Something I've Got A Friend (obviously with a dennis vocal...too bad there isn't a finished version) Out In The Country (version 1) (This would've been a great song for Al) Awake (does anybody here know when this was recorded?....would love to know) Side B: Marcella (which SHOULD HAVE been the side 2 opener on CATP) All This Is That Sweet And Bitter (again, does anybody have a recording date for this?) Carry Me Home (INSANE that this never got included on an official BB album) Here She Comes (originally on side 1 of CATP....personally I think it works very well as a closer) 10 songs...running time: approximately 37 minutes What y'all think? Looking forward to replies. Addendum: Had a late realization that Carry Me Home might have been recorded AFTER the CATP sessions. Can anybody supply a recording date? If that's the case, I would substitute Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again. Also, I think a finished version of Rooftop Harry would have been a very cool B side to the Mess Of Help single. Not a bad alternative track listing but considering how short CATP was to begin with, I don't see any harm with them tacking on a few extra tracks along with what was already listed. "He Come Down" and "Hold On, Dear Brother" deserve inclusion as they ventured the band into both gospel and folk territory. Surprisingly if I were to drop any songs from this album, I would honestly go with the two Dennis tracks that close things out. I know there's a lot of love for them, especially "Cuddle Up", but for the life of me I could never get into them. At least swap out "Make It Good" with "(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again". Not exactly sure when "Carry Me Home" was recorded but it should have been finished and placed on one of these albums. I agree with you about Dennis' songs on CATP. Personally, and I know this opinion won't win me many (or probably ANY 😆) fans on here, I could never really get into the vast majority of Dennis' songs. Yes, I do like a tiny handful...Ive got a friend (sad that was never finished), slip on through (my fave) and hawaiian dream (was there ever meant to be lyrics for that?)...but that's about it. Thanks for checking out my track list. The BBs had an unfortunate tendency in the 70s to keep their best stuff OFF their albums, for some as-yet-unknown reason....but thankfully they kept the tapes (most of them) and we hardcore fans can (and HAVE) put together our own (and often much improved) versions of these albums.
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Post by jds on Dec 12, 2022 17:48:41 GMT -5
The BBs had an unfortunate tendency in the 70s to keep their best stuff OFF their albums, for some as-yet-unknown reason....but thankfully they kept the tapes (most of them) and we hardcore fans can (and HAVE) put together our own (and often much improved) versions of these albums. I don't think there would have been an appreciable difference in switching out CATP albums tracks with Don Goldberg songs. Dennis songs are always a question mark over whether or not he considered them finished or had them earmarked for solo projects that failed to materialize. I like "Awake", but not in a "this song would have bumped the album up a couple of star ratings" way. I think the tragedy of CATP -- and all of the the Carl-era albums after Sunflower, really -- is that the band is flailing, second-guessing themselves too much to cultivate any of the aesthetic currents that run through the material. Respectfully, I don't think your tracklist does much to address that issue -- but I'm not sure of any tracklist of contemporary outtakes that could.
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Dec 12, 2022 17:56:07 GMT -5
The group honestly should have done exactly what the other Bea group did when they were being torn in so many different directions, and just made a really long sprawling double album. I know there were interviews from the time saying that “Holland” might’ve been a double album, but I assume that was more in the hopes of them attaching a version of “Smile” to it. I’m talking a full 2LP 20-30 track set where absolutely everyone got a chance to contribute anything they wanted. Trying to condense everything the group and its members were about in the early 70s down to eight tracks really wasn’t the best idea.
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Post by jds on Dec 12, 2022 18:11:16 GMT -5
When I consider all of their career options in 1971, "make two albums of AOR filler so that Warner Brothers gives us tour support" doesn't really seem that bad. It's just a shame it came to that and gives lie to the whole "American Beatles" thing.
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Post by smash em now on Dec 12, 2022 19:20:15 GMT -5
Really enjoying this set. The Blondie/Ricky era is among my favorites just because I love the country-rock influence and their live sound of the time. So excited to have We Got Love, Carry Me Home and Hard Time on streaming so I can put those songs on playlists. I didn't even know Oh Sweet Something existed. Great song from Blondie and Ricky.
So, overall, I'm very grateful this exists.
THAT BEING SAID, I'm astounded by how often I have to ask myself, "how did this get OK'd? How did this get released?" when it comes to these sets. The Trader is so distorted compared to the original. It's nearly as bad as the intro to Cottonfields being off beat in Feel Flows. And it's such a giant bummer that they took Don Goldberg's vocals off of the first version of Out In The Country. Seems incredibly unnecessary unless there's a backstory there.
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Post by newbbfan on Dec 12, 2022 22:11:38 GMT -5
I said elsewhere that I saw Don and talk to him at Mike's interview at the Grammy Museum and Don was just over the top with pride and enthusiasm in having his song on the album, as he had his previous one on the previous album. So not that he would tell me everything but he certainly wasn't going around frowning worrying about the vocal part being taken out so I don't know if there is a backstory there but when I saw Don he was smiling ear to ear and was overjoyed about his song being on the album. But I agree with you that I would sure like to hear it and could see no reason for it being taken out. Really enjoying this set. The Blondie/Ricky era is among my favorites just because I love the country-rock influence and their live sound of the time. So excited to have We Got Love, Carry Me Home and Hard Time on streaming so I can put those songs on playlists. I didn't even know Oh Sweet Something existed. Great song from Blondie and Ricky. So, overall, I'm very grateful this exists. THAT BEING SAID, I'm astounded by how often I have to ask myself, "how did this get OK'd? How did this get released?" when it comes to these sets. The Trader is so distorted compared to the original. It's nearly as bad as the intro to Cottonfields being off beat in Feel Flows. And it's such a giant bummer that they took Don Goldberg's vocals off of the first version of Out In The Country. Seems incredibly unnecessary unless there's a backstory there.
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Post by longtime lurker on Dec 13, 2022 6:45:36 GMT -5
I said elsewhere that I saw Don and talk to him at Mike's interview at the Grammy Museum and Don was just over the top with pride and enthusiasm in having his song on the album, as he had his previous one on the previous album. So not that he would tell me everything but he certainly wasn't going around frowning worrying about the vocal part being taken out so I don't know if there is a backstory there but when I saw Don he was smiling ear to ear and was overjoyed about his song being on the album. But I agree with you that I would sure like to hear it and could see no reason for it being taken out. Really enjoying this set. The Blondie/Ricky era is among my favorites just because I love the country-rock influence and their live sound of the time. So excited to have We Got Love, Carry Me Home and Hard Time on streaming so I can put those songs on playlists. I didn't even know Oh Sweet Something existed. Great song from Blondie and Ricky. So, overall, I'm very grateful this exists. THAT BEING SAID, I'm astounded by how often I have to ask myself, "how did this get OK'd? How did this get released?" when it comes to these sets. The Trader is so distorted compared to the original. It's nearly as bad as the intro to Cottonfields being off beat in Feel Flows. And it's such a giant bummer that they took Don Goldberg's vocals off of the first version of Out In The Country. Seems incredibly unnecessary unless there's a backstory there. That certainly IS curious that his vocals were removed from v1 of out in the country. I'm guessing, then, that you have actually heard this vocal rendition? I have scoured the net for it but, so far, no luck. Would it be ok for me to ask where you heard it?
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