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Post by Mikie on Sept 20, 2022 16:39:39 GMT -5
Which Beach Boys songs have sound effects, either flown in or generated by a vocal or musical instrument?
You guys know where the sound of that Diesel engine on 'Caroline No' came from, don'tcha?
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Post by Al Smith on Sept 20, 2022 17:14:20 GMT -5
You guys know where the sound of that Diesel engine on 'Caroline No' came from, don'tcha? Is that the Chattanooga choo-choo?
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Post by Mikie on Sept 20, 2022 17:50:16 GMT -5
Uh......no. No it isn't. The train noise was taken either from the master tape or directly off this record: I know because I was immersed in trains in the 60's and my Mom bought me the record around '65 or '66. I hadn't heard 'Caroline No' yet until around 1972 when I bought the Pet Sounds/C&TP 2-fer album. I recognized the same train sound right away when I heard 'Caroline No'. I ain't joshin'. Check out Youtube and listen to the record! Brian recorded this and over-dubbed Banana & Louie barking.
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Post by Stephen W. Desper on Sept 21, 2022 8:22:54 GMT -5
Uh......no. No it isn't. The train noise was taken either from the master tape or directly off this record: View AttachmentI know because I was immersed in trains in the 60's and my Mom bought me the record around '65 or '66. I hadn't heard 'Caroline No' yet until around 1972 when I bought the Pet Sounds/C&TP 2-fer album. I recognized the same train sound right away when I heard 'Caroline No'. I ain't joshin'. Check out Youtube and listen to the record! Brian recorded this and over-dubbed Banana & Louie barking. COMMENT to Mikie: What a fascinating slice of Beach Boy history.
As a "professional listener" I can well understand how you could pick out a particular locomotive sound characteristic from all the others, while to the rest of us one train sounds the same as the next. ~swd
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Post by boogieboarder on Sept 21, 2022 10:12:32 GMT -5
Uh......no. No it isn't. The train noise was taken either from the master tape or directly off this record: View AttachmentI know because I was immersed in trains in the 60's and my Mom bought me the record around '65 or '66. I hadn't heard 'Caroline No' yet until around 1972 when I bought the Pet Sounds/C&TP 2-fer album. I recognized the same train sound right away when I heard 'Caroline No'. I ain't joshin'. Check out Youtube and listen to the record! Brian recorded this and over-dubbed Banana & Louie barking. COMMENT to Mikie: What a fascinating slice of Beach Boy history.
As a "professional listener" I can well understand how you could pick out a particular locomotive sound characteristic from all the others, while to the rest of us one train sounds the same as the next. ~swd This train noise thing is off the subject of animals, but as long as we're here - I recognize the car squealing brakes and crash sound that Jan and Dean used on "Deadman's Curve," and the mono mix of "Old Ladies Seldom Power Shift" as being taken directly from an old record - "Transfusion" by Nervous Norvus in 1956.
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Post by Mikie on Sept 21, 2022 11:16:27 GMT -5
I never knew that about the car wreck sound on 'Dead Man's Curve', Boogie. But I'm not completely surprised. If you listed to Jan & Dean's 'Command Performance' album (and 'Anthology') you'll hear the two of them messing around in the studio, including running/rewinding the tape of the car wreck sound a few times. I'm sure you've heard the 'dirty' version of DMC bootlegged, haven't you?
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Post by Mikie on Sept 21, 2022 11:22:14 GMT -5
Uh......no. No it isn't. The train noise was taken either from the master tape or directly off this record: View AttachmentI know because I was immersed in trains in the 60's and my Mom bought me the record around '65 or '66. I hadn't heard 'Caroline No' yet until around 1972 when I bought the Pet Sounds/C&TP 2-fer album. I recognized the same train sound right away when I heard 'Caroline No'. I ain't joshin'. Check out Youtube and listen to the record! Brian recorded this and over-dubbed Banana & Louie barking. COMMENT to Mikie: What a fascinating slice of Beach Boy history.
As a "professional listener" I can well understand how you could pick out a particular locomotive sound characteristic from all the others, while to the rest of us one train sounds the same as the next. ~swd Stephen, it's the first track on the album, "Scene One: Train #58 - The Owl At Edison, California". When you hear it, it'll be obvious. www.discogs.com/release/3171274-No-Artist-Mister-Ds-Machine
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Sept 21, 2022 11:33:30 GMT -5
COMMENT to Mikie: What a fascinating slice of Beach Boy history.
As a "professional listener" I can well understand how you could pick out a particular locomotive sound characteristic from all the others, while to the rest of us one train sounds the same as the next. ~swd Stephen, it's the first track on the album, "Scene One: Train #58 - The Owl At Edison, California". When you hear it, it'll be obvious. www.discogs.com/release/3171274-No-Artist-Mister-Ds-MachineJust had a listen on YouTube. I actually heard the dogs bark in my head. Great find! 😀
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Post by boogieboarder on Sept 21, 2022 12:21:20 GMT -5
I never knew that about the car wreck sound on 'Dead Man's Curve', Boogie. But I'm not completely surprised. If you listed to Jan & Dean's 'Command Performance' album (and 'Anthology') you'll hear the two of them messing around in the studio, including running/rewinding the tape of the car wreck sound a few times. I'm sure you've heard the 'dirty' version of DMC bootlegged, haven't you? After I heard them messing around with the car wreck sounds, then I realized it was even used in the mix in the released version of Dead Man’s Curve. Somebody posted the following songfacts.com: It’s interesting, but I can’t vouch for its accuracy. “In the 1950s, an audio recording happened to be made duringa car crash. In that crash, someone died. Their scream can be heard at the point of impact. For years, the recording was used as a sound effect. The most famous use was in Jan & Dean's song 'Dead Man's Curve.' The crash audio is cut up and repeated in bits and pieces, in the song, with at least one full repetition that included the scream. The Tennessee Department of (Highway?) Safety ran drunk driving commercials in the 60's that included the crash audio. These were played during the holidays to reduce traffic fatalities due to drunken drivers. I remember that one year there was a public announcement over the local television, that the audio would nol longer be used and the commercials containing the audio would no longer be aired. The reason was that including the death of a person in a commercial was inapproriate and they apologized.”
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Post by Stephen W. Desper on Sept 22, 2022 8:56:44 GMT -5
COMMENT: Another sound effect taken from an LP is the Laughing Lady in Loop De Loop. In the Addendum to Part two of my book I go into this further with a video of the theme park where the Laughing Lady exists and where Alan bought the LP we used in that song. Also the chickens being barnstormed sound was taken from a record. An exhausting number of takes required to wild-track that sound into the correct spot of the song. However, the bi-plane was a master recording made by me. A Blast from the Past: In my early-life experiences, while serving as a recording engineer in the US Army, I've recorded many natural, man-made, or non-musical sounds. Mostly bombs going off, or cannons being fired. Also, trucks, lots of trucks, aircraft takeoffs, marching troops, parades, and heavy equipment as it landed via parachuting from an aircraft. One day I was assigned to record the Atomic Canyon. I placed my recording equipment at least 100 feet from the firing sight, set the level at "1" out of a "1-10" scale, mounted ear protection and, as directed, laid flat on the ground. FIRE !!! I'll swear, the blast raised my entire body a foot off the ground and pinned the VU meter needle at maximum (meters had to be replaced). Sorry, I know you didn't tune-in here to hear old army stories.
Other Beach Boy natural recordings include, hiking back into California forests to capture water sounds for CCW, climbing up into the trees in Brian's back yard to mount stereo microphones used to capture bird sounds for DITLOAT. (Day in life of tree), recording the smashing of China plates for 'Feet and also an alarm clock falling to the floor. (That effect took hours to get the timing right.) I spent three days recording water drops and water bubbling through mud for a CCW project that was never used. (Recording water drops is harder than you think!) But the Moog was used instead. Recorded car (Brian's Rolls Royce) horn honks and an MG (Mike's) door closing for song use also. Then there were foot falls or the sound of shuffling across an asphalt roof, panned L to R. Alan's whistle siren, a symphonic slap-board, and Porcelain Bird Water Whistles used somewhere are some effects captured. ~swd
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Post by jk on Sept 22, 2022 9:01:10 GMT -5
A Blast from the Past: In my early-life experiences, while serving as a recording engineer in the US Army, I've recorded many natural, man-made, or non-musical sounds. Mostly bombs going off, or cannons being fired. Also, trucks, lots of trucks, aircraft takeoffs, marching troops, parades, and heavy equipment as it landed via parachuting from an aircraft. One day I was assigned to record the Atomic Canyon. I placed my recording equipment at least 100 feet from the firing sight, set the level at "1" out of a "1-10" scale, mounted ear protection and, as directed, laid flat on the ground. FIRE !!! I'll swear, the blast raised my entire body a foot off the ground and pinned the VU meter needle at maximum (meters had to be replaced). Sorry, I know you didn't tune-in here to hear old army stories. All the stories you have to tell are fascinating, Stephen.
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Post by Mikie on Sept 22, 2022 16:56:40 GMT -5
As I remember reading years ago: 'Take A Load Off Your Feet' - Brian standing on his roof rustling gravel under his feet. Maybe Stephen can verify Yeah or Nah?
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Post by John Manning on Sept 22, 2022 18:37:47 GMT -5
Snoring sound effects on I Went To Sleep.
(I could recreate that right now, as Steph’s nodded off lying next to me… )
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Post by Paul JB on Sept 22, 2022 18:45:35 GMT -5
Mikie, that train album looks great. I saw something similar while record shopping in an antique mall a few months ago. I should have grabbed it. I was aware that that train sound Brian used was from another record but had never seen the cover. I love trains and still do.
Boogie, I’m 101% sure the car wreck sound was also used in the animated Disney film 101 Dalmatians when Cruella crashes her car.
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Sept 22, 2022 18:50:32 GMT -5
Snoring sound effects on I Went To Sleep. (I could recreate that right now, as Steph’s nodded off lying next to me… )I’ll bet Steph won’t be happy that you broadcasted that tidbit of information. 😁
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Post by boogieboarder on Sept 22, 2022 19:00:29 GMT -5
Car sounds!
"409" - Gary Usher's 59 Chevy w/348 - they drove it up and down the street recording the sound.
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Post by Mikie on Sept 22, 2022 19:07:51 GMT -5
Snoring sound effects on I Went To Sleep. (I could recreate that right now, as Steph’s nodded off lying next to me… )I’ll bet Steph won’t be happy that you broadcasted that tidbit of information. 😁 Yeah, maybe too much information but we won't say anything, John.
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Post by Mikie on Sept 22, 2022 19:09:21 GMT -5
Car sounds! "409" - Gary Usher's 59 Chevy w/348 - they drove it up and down the street recording the sound. And do you remember approximately what time of the day (or night) that was?
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Post by boogieboarder on Sept 22, 2022 19:13:38 GMT -5
Car sounds! "409" - Gary Usher's 59 Chevy w/348 - they drove it up and down the street recording the sound. And do you remember approximately what time of the day (or night) that was? Yeah, I remember reading that the neighbors were upset that it was in the middle of the night, but I don’t remember exactly the time.
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Post by Mikie on Sept 22, 2022 19:14:49 GMT -5
Mikie, that train album looks great. I saw something similar while record shopping in an antique mall a few months ago. I should have grabbed it. I was aware that that train sound Brian used was from another record but had never seen the cover. I love trains and still do. Me too. I have a pretty good collection of G-scale trains. Here's the record. First track.
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Post by boogieboarder on Sept 22, 2022 19:16:37 GMT -5
Smile - Wood shop sounds. Munching vegetables. Fire.
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Post by Mikie on Sept 22, 2022 19:24:33 GMT -5
On "Let The Wind Blow", it's either someone making the sound of wind blowing or he's smokin' a doob. (2:11)
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Post by Mikie on Sept 22, 2022 19:37:27 GMT -5
Smile - Wood shop sounds. Munching vegetables. Fire. Yep! And at the end of "Do It Again" the same hammering sound. Vegetables. Is that McCartney chewing on celery? And drinking a glass of water (or carrot juice). Yeah! Fire (Mrs. O'Leary's Cow). The wrinkling Saran shrink wrap or foil to get the crackling fire sounds. And the high pitched violins or whatever they were to get the sound of a fire truck(s). The drums to get the effect of falling stuff and the various whistles I guess signifying the firemen & policemen.
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Post by Al Smith on Sept 22, 2022 20:15:46 GMT -5
Diamond Head has a pretty fabulous collection of canned and instrumental sound effects - from the proto-star wars laser pinging effects (sounds like they’re banging a telephone pole support cable), the violent thunder and soothing waves matched with what seems to be instrumentally created bird sounds and other tack piano kinda tinny sounds later in the track, before the waves kick back in.
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Post by Rick Bartlett on Sept 22, 2022 21:40:38 GMT -5
How about the Coke Bottle percussion intro on 'Caroline No'? Are we still on agreeance it was a Coke bottle or was it something else?
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