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Post by Cam Mott on Jun 28, 2022 12:45:47 GMT -5
Zoom, would be cool as long as we all remember we are all on the same side and people are working hard on our behalf and doing their best etc. (steps down from soap box)
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Post by John Manning on Jun 28, 2022 14:09:27 GMT -5
I’m keen, even just to share the same Zoom room as Alan Boyd! (I was uncharacteristically rather too in awe of him at Stomp a few years back…).
I suspect though that it’d have to be at a time when we Brits are sleeping it off in police cells after one too many …
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 14:12:41 GMT -5
Are you planning to wake up in a Soho doorway where the policeman knows your name? Or from a different song by the same band, are you planning to pick the wrong Precinct? After having a bit too much? I’m keen, even just to share the same Zoom room as Alan Boyd! (I was uncharacteristically rather too in awe of him at Stomp a few years back…). I suspect though that it’d have to be at a time when we Brits are sleeping it off in police cells after one too many …
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Post by Awesoman on Jun 28, 2022 14:32:55 GMT -5
It's a great idea, as long as people behave in a civil manner and don't keep repeating the same point ad infinitum Agreed. And it would be really silly on anyone's part who has an emotional outburst over this. It's just a compilation, folks. Constructively bring up the sound quality concisely and to the point, and leave it at that. No need to have a panic attack over this stuff. It's pretty cool if these guys make time for the fans so we don't want to blow it.
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Post by northcoast on Jun 28, 2022 20:14:33 GMT -5
It's a great idea, as long as people behave in a civil manner and don't keep repeating the same point ad infinitum Agreed. And it would be really silly on anyone's part who has an emotional outburst over this. It's just a compilation, folks. Constructively bring up the sound quality concisely and to the point, and leave it at that. No need to have a panic attack over this stuff. It's pretty cool if these guys make time for the fans so we don't want to blow it. Judging by sales the only people having issues with the mixes are all the sound engineers on this board
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Jun 28, 2022 20:54:03 GMT -5
Agreed. And it would be really silly on anyone's part who has an emotional outburst over this. It's just a compilation, folks. Constructively bring up the sound quality concisely and to the point, and leave it at that. No need to have a panic attack over this stuff. It's pretty cool if these guys make time for the fans so we don't want to blow it. Judging by sales the only people having issues with the mixes are all the sound engineers on this board Yep, and geez, didn’t know that I had to be a sound engineer for my ears to detect weird sonics. I suppose if my ears are that defective, then SoS was my last Beach Boys purchase. No sense buying product that my engineer ears cannot appreciate.
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Post by Awesoman on Jun 28, 2022 23:08:38 GMT -5
Agreed. And it would be really silly on anyone's part who has an emotional outburst over this. It's just a compilation, folks. Constructively bring up the sound quality concisely and to the point, and leave it at that. No need to have a panic attack over this stuff. It's pretty cool if these guys make time for the fans so we don't want to blow it. Judging by sales the only people having issues with the mixes are all the sound engineers on this board I mean in fairness I went to school to be a sound engineer...🤫
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Post by tomtomplayboy on Jun 29, 2022 3:29:01 GMT -5
Agreed. And it would be really silly on anyone's part who has an emotional outburst over this. It's just a compilation, folks. Constructively bring up the sound quality concisely and to the point, and leave it at that. No need to have a panic attack over this stuff. It's pretty cool if these guys make time for the fans so we don't want to blow it. Judging by sales the only people having issues with the mixes are all the sound engineers on this board Sales are good because there is an absolutely enormous IAG marketing push. The idea that only sound engineers have an issue with the new mixes is demonstrably untrue. Take five minutes and read the comments in the comments section beneath the video below. Are you seriously suggesting that all the people commenting are sound engineers and audiophiles? Anyone with functioning ears can hear that there are problems with much of Sounds of Summer. Who the hell mixed this? The left channel is completely screwed up.To quote Mr. Horse, "No sir, I don't like it." Seriously, how do you screw up Surfin' Safari?
This is the worst thing I've ever heard.
Why did you f*** with the formula??I've heard literal fan mixes on YouTube that are better quality than this! Such an undignified way to treat one of the great 20th century music legacies!The amount of disrespect in releasing the quality of this song is almost unforgivable. The Beach Boys deserve so much more than this garbage. I was disappointed with the remixes on the feel flows box set, it seems they haven't improved. I would take the original mixes over this any day of the week.Good lord, way to butcher a classic. All of the new mixes in this new compilation suffer from a shoddy mixing job, being overblown and over compressed, but this is one of the most egregious examples. The whole thing has a weird phased sound to it, and listening with headphones, there is clear persistent digital artifacts on the left channel, and it ain't subtle either... It's a shame, because when they started doing remixes a few years ago like the new Wild Honey mixes I thought they sounded pretty good. But last year's Feel Flows compilation had lousy mixing, and this new compilation is even worse.
I don't know what professional audio engineer heard this and deemed it adequate for release.
Sounds like they played it through a tin can.
Hey, you almost erased Mike’s lead vocals at 1:54. Might be a good idea to actually listen to stuff before you release it to the general public. This sounds terrible like a lot of the music on the new Sounds of Summer collection.
The left channel sounds like a recorded Zoom call.Who the hell has been mixing these recent releases? The Sunflower mix on Feel Flows was horrendous as well, shrill garbage.
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Post by ohm on Jun 29, 2022 11:00:03 GMT -5
Worked my way through most of it now. Variable, but I think there's still some good stuff in there. Do You Wanna Dance 2021 really leaps out of the speakers, for example. Some strange calls too - the new mix of Please Let Us GOTW misses the original's claustrophobic, lo-fi synth pop vibe I thought. I've not listened on headphones, only cruising around the Somerset countryside, but I've not picked up anything as bad as others seem to have done. Certainly some shrill moments - is it me or has the 2017 mix of Let The Wind Blow had an extra dose of studio fairy dust sprinkeld over it? My suspicion is the ghost of Murray appeared in the mastering room, "Treble up Al, treble up". But as I said before, if these new mixes had been presented in a different way I think folk might've been more sympathetic.
Sound quality aside, the running order is quite a mystery.
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Post by Mikie on Jun 29, 2022 12:12:33 GMT -5
In the Manufacturing/Production Quality field, of which I'm a part of, there's an old saying: "Consistency is key".
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Post by northcoast on Jun 29, 2022 12:31:50 GMT -5
Judging by sales the only people having issues with the mixes are all the sound engineers on this board Sales are good because there is an absolutely enormous IAG marketing push. The idea that only sound engineers have an issue with the new mixes is demonstrably untrue. Take five minutes and read the comments in the comments section beneath the video below. Are you seriously suggesting that all the people commenting are sound engineers and audiophiles? Anyone with functioning ears can hear that there are problems with much of Sounds of Summer. Who the hell mixed this? The left channel is completely screwed up.To quote Mr. Horse, "No sir, I don't like it." Seriously, how do you screw up Surfin' Safari?
This is the worst thing I've ever heard.
Why did you f*** with the formula??I've heard literal fan mixes on YouTube that are better quality than this! Such an undignified way to treat one of the great 20th century music legacies!The amount of disrespect in releasing the quality of this song is almost unforgivable. The Beach Boys deserve so much more than this garbage. I was disappointed with the remixes on the feel flows box set, it seems they haven't improved. I would take the original mixes over this any day of the week.Good lord, way to butcher a classic. All of the new mixes in this new compilation suffer from a shoddy mixing job, being overblown and over compressed, but this is one of the most egregious examples. The whole thing has a weird phased sound to it, and listening with headphones, there is clear persistent digital artifacts on the left channel, and it ain't subtle either... It's a shame, because when they started doing remixes a few years ago like the new Wild Honey mixes I thought they sounded pretty good. But last year's Feel Flows compilation had lousy mixing, and this new compilation is even worse.
I don't know what professional audio engineer heard this and deemed it adequate for release.
Sounds like they played it through a tin can.
Hey, you almost erased Mike’s lead vocals at 1:54. Might be a good idea to actually listen to stuff before you release it to the general public. This sounds terrible like a lot of the music on the new Sounds of Summer collection.
The left channel sounds like a recorded Zoom call.Who the hell has been mixing these recent releases? The Sunflower mix on Feel Flows was horrendous as well, shrill garbage.Everyone has a different set of ears and I will be the first to say there are some clunkers on this set as there were on Feel Flows. But as one who has been buying Beach Boys since 1975 and heard everything from the sublime to the disastrous (pick up a copy of the original 1986 CD of Spirit of America for the nadir of reissued product), I appreciate Linett and company doing something different with the recordings. Someone complained about Do You Wanna Dance but I love the original stereo mix from 2012 (I think) because I can hear most if not all the guitars Brian used in the recording. The new mix has more bottom to it and for those who love their bass, it works. The extraction mixes are a leap of faith because without all the original elements, you are monkeying around with digital voodoo to produce a "stereo" recording. In the end you didn't need a reprint of the original Sounds of Summer with 50 more tracks added. They took a shot at revisiting the release. To my ears most of it works
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Post by Jason (The Real Beach Boy) on Jun 29, 2022 16:05:09 GMT -5
Agreed. And it would be really silly on anyone's part who has an emotional outburst over this. It's just a compilation, folks. Constructively bring up the sound quality concisely and to the point, and leave it at that. No need to have a panic attack over this stuff. It's pretty cool if these guys make time for the fans so we don't want to blow it. Judging by sales the only people having issues with the mixes are all the sound engineers on this board I didn't realize having ears made one a sound engineer. But I digress. Well, I suppose the set is fine on paper as both a compilation of hits and some deeper tracks. In reality, it's a shame that the newer remixes generally sound...well, not very good. 10 for the music, 8 for the tracklist, and a big fat zero for execution. That brings us to an average of 6. I know these guys are better than the sound heard here and on Feel Flows. And hey, we're all sound engineers now!
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Post by AGD on Jun 30, 2022 1:16:59 GMT -5
"I'm a sound engineer too, Brian".
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Post by Awesoman on Jun 30, 2022 10:05:16 GMT -5
"I'm a sound engineer too, Brian". Hell, most of us can hear out of both ears and *still* miss things that Brian was hearing.
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Post by filledeplage on Jun 30, 2022 10:31:56 GMT -5
"I'm a sound engineer too, Brian". Hell, most of us can hear out of both ears and *still* miss things that Brian was hearing. Yes, but the difference is that we are “listening to” and Brian is “listening for” - we don’t always know in that sense, because his listening is “active” as the creator, and ours is “passive” as the recipients/listeners. Brian can be listening for something that was missing or extra, or a mistake, and we don’t know (nor should we) what is in his thought process while he listens.
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Post by nantman on Jul 2, 2022 13:15:26 GMT -5
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Post by gigantiskpyjamas on Jul 2, 2022 15:43:07 GMT -5
Hello geeks and trainspotters!
Interesting listen. Thanks for the heads up!
I might be imagining this, but it sounds to me like Howie is very much aware of the criticism of the new mixes. The focus now is on ”FUN”. The new mixes are supposed to be a fun thing. People already own these songs ten times over. Let’s have a little fun and give them something new.
— They mention the ”hardcore fan forums” and some people disliking the new mixes.
— Howie didn’t like the drums in the original mix of ’Marcella’.
— Howie don’t hear the missing ”s” in the new Good Vibrations mix.
— ”Don’t be a trainspotter, you know. Stop being a geek! Listen to the specific instruments you havent heard and, you know, it’s not replacing anything. It’s just another door.”
— Every new mix and master gets signed off by the Beach Boys. #damagecontrol 😛
— There’s gonna be ”some stuff” happening late this year, early next year.
— The upcoming Carl and the Passions/Holland/live set will contain studio outtakes but it’s predominately live bonus stuff (and it’s ”brilliant”).
Cool interview. Howie seems like a cool dude. Again, it sounds like they don’t understand what the fans are worried about. There’s nothing wrong with remixing stuff and giving the fans more value for money instead of putting out the same old mixes again and again. The problem is the heavy-handed EQ and compression (and the poor extractions).
But what do I know. I’m just a trainspotting geek. 😢 I’m sure the upcoming box set will sound FABULOUS!
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Jul 2, 2022 16:15:17 GMT -5
Hello geeks and trainspotters! Interesting listen. Thanks for the heads up! I might be imagining this, but it sounds to me like Howie is very much aware of the criticism of the new mixes. The focus now is on ”FUN”. The new mixes are supposed to be a fun thing. People already own these songs ten times over. Let’s have a little fun and give them something new. — They mention the ”hardcore fan forums” and some people disliking the new mixes. — Howie didn’t like the drums in the original mix of ’Marcella’. — Howie don’t hear the missing ”s” in the new Good Vibrations mix. — ”Don’t be a trainspotter, you know. Stop being a geek! Listen to the specific instruments you havent heard and, you know, it’s not replacing anything. It’s just another door.” — Every new mix and master gets signed off by the Beach Boys. #damagecontrol 😛 — There’s gonna be ”some stuff” happening late this year, early next year. — The upcoming Carl and the Passions/Holland/live set will contain studio outtakes but it’s predominately live bonus stuff (and it’s ”brilliant”). Cool interview. Howie seems like a cool dude. Again, it sounds like they don’t understand what the fans are worried about. There’s nothing wrong with remixing stuff and giving the fans more value for money instead of putting out the same old mixes again and again. The problem is the heavy-handed EQ and compression (and the poor extractions). But what do I know. I’m just a trainspotting geek. 😢 I’m sure the upcoming box set will sound FABULOUS! Right now, Howie is nothing more than damage control. He will never admit that anything is wrong. He can’t, he represents the company. As far as SOS is concerned, he spouts the company line. Already sounds like the Fall box set may become a Winter box set. Can’t say that I didn’t see that coming. And you are right, they are not listening to us. We used to be the target audience, but no more. If that is the case, then I will no longer be a target buyer. I refuse to waste my money on product I will not listen to.
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Jul 2, 2022 17:03:10 GMT -5
Hello geeks and trainspotters! Interesting listen. Thanks for the heads up! I might be imagining this, but it sounds to me like Howie is very much aware of the criticism of the new mixes. The focus now is on ”FUN”. The new mixes are supposed to be a fun thing. People already own these songs ten times over. Let’s have a little fun and give them something new. — They mention the ”hardcore fan forums” and some people disliking the new mixes. — Howie didn’t like the drums in the original mix of ’Marcella’. — Howie don’t hear the missing ”s” in the new Good Vibrations mix. — ”Don’t be a trainspotter, you know. Stop being a geek! Listen to the specific instruments you havent heard and, you know, it’s not replacing anything. It’s just another door.” — Every new mix and master gets signed off by the Beach Boys. #damagecontrol 😛 — There’s gonna be ”some stuff” happening late this year, early next year. — The upcoming Carl and the Passions/Holland/live set will contain studio outtakes but it’s predominately live bonus stuff (and it’s ”brilliant”). Cool interview. Howie seems like a cool dude. Again, it sounds like they don’t understand what the fans are worried about. There’s nothing wrong with remixing stuff and giving the fans more value for money instead of putting out the same old mixes again and again. The problem is the heavy-handed EQ and compression (and the poor extractions). But what do I know. I’m just a trainspotting geek. 😢 I’m sure the upcoming box set will sound FABULOUS! Right now, Howie is nothing more than damage control. He will never admit that anything is wrong. He can’t, he represents the company. As far as SOS is concerned, he spouts the company line. Already sounds like the Fall box set may become a Winter box set. Can’t say that I didn’t see that coming. And you are right, they are not listening to us. We used to be the target audience, but no more. If that is the case, then I will no longer be a target buyer. I refuse to waste my money on product I will not listen to. I mean he said the box set would be at the end of the year… Al said “November” at one of his shows a couple months ago… the Press release said “this fall”… So I’ve always assumed around Black Friday, late fall.
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Jul 2, 2022 18:50:31 GMT -5
Right now, Howie is nothing more than damage control. He will never admit that anything is wrong. He can’t, he represents the company. As far as SOS is concerned, he spouts the company line. Already sounds like the Fall box set may become a Winter box set. Can’t say that I didn’t see that coming. And you are right, they are not listening to us. We used to be the target audience, but no more. If that is the case, then I will no longer be a target buyer. I refuse to waste my money on product I will not listen to. I mean he said the box set would be at the end of the year… Al said “November” at one of his shows a couple months ago… the Press release said “this fall”… So I’ve always assumed around Black Friday, late fall. I was referencing the “early next year” part of the sentence.
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Post by goodvibrations33 on Jul 2, 2022 21:36:20 GMT -5
Hello geeks and trainspotters! Interesting listen. Thanks for the heads up! I might be imagining this, but it sounds to me like Howie is very much aware of the criticism of the new mixes. The focus now is on ”FUN”. The new mixes are supposed to be a fun thing. People already own these songs ten times over. Let’s have a little fun and give them something new. — They mention the ”hardcore fan forums” and some people disliking the new mixes. — Howie didn’t like the drums in the original mix of ’Marcella’. — Howie don’t hear the missing ”s” in the new Good Vibrations mix. — ”Don’t be a trainspotter, you know. Stop being a geek! Listen to the specific instruments you havent heard and, you know, it’s not replacing anything. It’s just another door.” — Every new mix and master gets signed off by the Beach Boys. #damagecontrol 😛 — There’s gonna be ”some stuff” happening late this year, early next year. — The upcoming Carl and the Passions/Holland/live set will contain studio outtakes but it’s predominately live bonus stuff (and it’s ”brilliant”). Cool interview. Howie seems like a cool dude. Again, it sounds like they don’t understand what the fans are worried about. There’s nothing wrong with remixing stuff and giving the fans more value for money instead of putting out the same old mixes again and again. The problem is the heavy-handed EQ and compression (and the poor extractions). But what do I know. I’m just a trainspotting geek. 😢 I’m sure the upcoming box set will sound FABULOUS! Right now, Howie is nothing more than damage control. He will never admit that anything is wrong. He can’t, he represents the company. As far as SOS is concerned, he spouts the company line. Already sounds like the Fall box set may become a Winter box set. Can’t say that I didn’t see that coming. And you are right, they are not listening to us. We used to be the target audience, but no more. If that is the case, then I will no longer be a target buyer. I refuse to waste my money on product I will not listen to.Man... you're missing out as a fan then! My wish for you is that you open your mind a little and "try" to enjoy the things we do get from the band we all love to death! We'll never get exactly what we want in any circumstance, but there will definitely be things we do along the way, I don't want you to miss out on those things! I'm definitely thankful we're at least getting something from BRI/Capitol/UMe, it beats getting nothing at all. There's been so much negativity on this board and endless sarcastic comments since the whole SOS/Howie thing, that I think we owe to each other, the band, and the fandom to try and be a little more positive and take the high road in some circumstances! I would love to know what the individual band members, and touring members, think of the new mixes! That would be a cool round table, if all were engaged!
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Post by filledeplage on Jul 3, 2022 7:17:37 GMT -5
Right now, Howie is nothing more than damage control. He will never admit that anything is wrong. He can’t, he represents the company. As far as SOS is concerned, he spouts the company line. Already sounds like the Fall box set may become a Winter box set. Can’t say that I didn’t see that coming. And you are right, they are not listening to us. We used to be the target audience, but no more. If that is the case, then I will no longer be a target buyer. I refuse to waste my money on product I will not listen to.Man... you're missing out as a fan then! My wish for you is that you open your mind a little and "try" to enjoy the things we do get from the band we all love to death! We'll never get exactly what we want in any circumstance, but there will definitely be things we do along the way, I don't want you to miss out on those things! I'm definitely thankful we're at least getting something from BRI/Capitol/UMe, it beats getting nothing at all. There's been so much negativity on this board and endless sarcastic comments since the whole SOS/Howie thing, that I think we owe to each other, the band, and the fandom to try and be a little more positive and take the high road in some circumstances! I would love to know what the individual band members, and touring members, think of the new mixes! That would be a cool round table, if all were engaged! Not really and it is not from a closed mind. This is a guy who wants the best for the music and wouldn’t have a “freer speech” forum as he does. If he buys something - that is a choice. In real time, I caught these releases. In real time, with my teeth, so I get a say in what I think is quality. And others who know more than I, who have followed the band for 5-6 decades, know sound systems, get a say, and it is an informed opinion. Informed by thousands of dollars spent on LPs, singles, CDs, 8 tracks, tickets to shows, memorabilia, etc. And if it is non-approval, that does not mean automatically that is is “negative.” It is called open debate. Future-proofing is great. But, the tone was offensively non-inclusive and dismissive. And frankly, surly. What I learned with this whole blow-up, is that this whole “spacial audio” is often a misnomer. And, it has many connotations, depending on whose brand name you are listening to and what they are trying to sell us. We have had a kind of surround-sound for a long time. It is like a cable company telling you that you are getting full HD video, to sell more HDTVs of course, but then the signal is compressed during transmission, and you are really getting standard definition TV for the most part. It is marketing “puffing” (which is legally allowed so long as you don’t outright lie about the products “fitness for a particular purpose.”) And, with all this confusion, we have to be discerning. No one wants them showcased in the proper light, more than I do, and for posterity, more than anything else. But, you have to have a filter to know what is hype and what is not. And not get bamboozled, at the check-out counter. The communications industry is not always transparent. They are spin-masters. And I don’t mean turntables. The other part, is what equipment is mainstream enough to process this Atmos technology? And, even the experts are fighting over this whole concept. They can’t make their own minds up and come up with a uniform position, so why would anyone else? With this level of debate, our discussions appear pretty tame and more “measured and restrained” than elsewhere. Frankly, it was designed, for theater use. So how to market that? If I don’t have a home theater, do I feel deprived? Ah, no. I’m gonna make-do with what I have and maybe do some adding on to get to the 5.1 standard. Can you enjoy it with what you have or do you have to drop more dough to benefit from it? Those are all valid questions that won’t be dismissed. But, I really appreciate the discussion, because it forced me to start learning about it. We can all learn. My question is whether Sirius is streaming in the Atmos “streaming-only” apple music format. Or are they playing CDs?
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Jul 3, 2022 7:31:57 GMT -5
Right now, Howie is nothing more than damage control. He will never admit that anything is wrong. He can’t, he represents the company. As far as SOS is concerned, he spouts the company line. Already sounds like the Fall box set may become a Winter box set. Can’t say that I didn’t see that coming. And you are right, they are not listening to us. We used to be the target audience, but no more. If that is the case, then I will no longer be a target buyer. I refuse to waste my money on product I will not listen to.Man... you're missing out as a fan then! My wish for you is that you open your mind a little and "try" to enjoy the things we do get from the band we all love to death! We'll never get exactly what we want in any circumstance, but there will definitely be things we do along the way, I don't want you to miss out on those things! I'm definitely thankful we're at least getting something from BRI/Capitol/UMe, it beats getting nothing at all. There's been so much negativity on this board and endless sarcastic comments since the whole SOS/Howie thing, that I think we owe to each other, the band, and the fandom to try and be a little more positive and take the high road in some circumstances! I would love to know what the individual band members, and touring members, think of the new mixes! That would be a cool round table, if all were engaged! If you enjoy the sonics of SoS, then more power to you. I don’t like it. Something changed with how this music is being presented for listening. I won’t be a Stepford and just accept whatever is thrown at me. As for Howie, we only comment on what comes out of his mouth. This is a message board. It is where people come to write about how they are feeling whether positive or negative. Please remember that. Oh and lastly, I think we owe it to everyone to be honest and not act like everything is perfect. Blowing smoke just clouds the issues.
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Post by tomtomplayboy on Jul 3, 2022 7:41:35 GMT -5
Right now, Howie is nothing more than damage control. He will never admit that anything is wrong. He can’t, he represents the company. As far as SOS is concerned, he spouts the company line. Already sounds like the Fall box set may become a Winter box set. Can’t say that I didn’t see that coming. And you are right, they are not listening to us. We used to be the target audience, but no more. If that is the case, then I will no longer be a target buyer. I refuse to waste my money on product I will not listen to.Man... you're missing out as a fan then! My wish for you is that you open your mind a little and "try" to enjoy the things we do get from the band we all love to death! We'll never get exactly what we want in any circumstance, but there will definitely be things we do along the way, I don't want you to miss out on those things! I'm definitely thankful we're at least getting something from BRI/Capitol/UMe, it beats getting nothing at all. There's been so much negativity on this board and endless sarcastic comments since the whole SOS/Howie thing, that I think we owe to each other, the band, and the fandom to try and be a little more positive and take the high road in some circumstances! I would love to know what the individual band members, and touring members, think of the new mixes! That would be a cool round table, if all were engaged! In short, pretend that Sounds of Summer doesn't sound bloody awful because an awful-sounding release is apparently better than no release at all. Hmm, no thanks.
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Post by tomtomplayboy on Jul 3, 2022 7:46:17 GMT -5
Hello geeks and trainspotters! Interesting listen. Thanks for the heads up! I might be imagining this, but it sounds to me like Howie is very much aware of the criticism of the new mixes. The focus now is on ”FUN”. The new mixes are supposed to be a fun thing. People already own these songs ten times over. Let’s have a little fun and give them something new. — They mention the ”hardcore fan forums” and some people disliking the new mixes. — Howie didn’t like the drums in the original mix of ’Marcella’. — Howie don’t hear the missing ”s” in the new Good Vibrations mix. — ”Don’t be a trainspotter, you know. Stop being a geek! Listen to the specific instruments you havent heard and, you know, it’s not replacing anything. It’s just another door.” — Every new mix and master gets signed off by the Beach Boys. #damagecontrol 😛 — There’s gonna be ”some stuff” happening late this year, early next year. — The upcoming Carl and the Passions/Holland/live set will contain studio outtakes but it’s predominately live bonus stuff (and it’s ”brilliant”). Cool interview. Howie seems like a cool dude. Again, it sounds like they don’t understand what the fans are worried about. There’s nothing wrong with remixing stuff and giving the fans more value for money instead of putting out the same old mixes again and again. The problem is the heavy-handed EQ and compression (and the poor extractions). But what do I know. I’m just a trainspotting geek. 😢 I’m sure the upcoming box set will sound FABULOUS! Howie also said Feel Flows and Sounds of Summer were both going to be amazing prior to release, and... disappointment ensued. I now take absolutely everything he says with an enormous pinch of salt. I'm expecting heavy-handed EQ, compression and treble overkill from the CATP/Holland set, and that way I can be wonderfully surprised if it doesn't sound like another Feel Flows.
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