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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 16:39:59 GMT -5
I love sunshine any time. In the winter when it shines on the snow, and in the summer when it heats everything up. I sure hope we get to be out of our homes to enjoy it this year! Maybe not..... Don't you possess patio? Porch to move around in it reading book or watching film thru tablet? That way you multitask - walk around porch/patio getting sunshine AND read book/watch film whilst doing it. How about it? I've got a very nice deck and a decent sized back yard. Problem is, my mother passed away 2 months ago, and I recently split up with my girlfriend in a very bad way. I'm too depressed to just sit alone at home, where there are too many reminders of recent events. I need to get out into the world, meet new people, and move on with my life. I know you're being helpful, beach Boys Fan and I appreciate it. Thank you for that!
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Post by jk on Apr 16, 2020 4:43:19 GMT -5
Don't you possess patio? Porch to move around in it reading book or watching film thru tablet? That way you multitask - walk around porch/patio getting sunshine AND read book/watch film whilst doing it. How about it? I've got a very nice deck and a decent sized back yard. Problem is, my mother passed away 2 months ago, and I recently split up with my girlfriend in a very bad way. I'm too depressed to just sit alone at home, where there are too many reminders of recent events. I need to get out into the world, meet new people, and move on with my life. I know you're being helpful, Beach Boys Fan and I appreciate it. Thank you for that! sockit, I hope you are moving forward now after such emotional times. I remember seeing Jay commiserating with you in the Shoutbox after losing a parent himself (that was before I rejoined). It's devastating when that happens, however it happens. They'll be better times--in every sense. (I've repaired your tag to BBF.)
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Post by jk on Aug 30, 2021 2:51:24 GMT -5
Thoughts and prayers for the folks in Louisiana.
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Post by jk on Jan 4, 2023 4:38:59 GMT -5
People often come up to me in the street and ask, "jk, what are you doing on a Beach Boys website? Almost everything you post isn't Beach Boys related at all!" My answer is invariably the same:
"Well, I was besotted with the music of Brian and the Boys when I joined my first BB forum nearly 20 years ago. Since then, that passion has cooled appreciably, almost to the point of Beach Boys Burnout a few years ago. Why? I suspect it's information overload, which is why I pick and choose which BB threads I read these days (and what BB music I listen to). And believe me there's plenty of stuff here and at BBT that's an absolute joy to read.
"Getting back to your original question, the key word in all of this is context. The Boys' music wasn't created in a vacuum -- no one's music is. And without their music large areas of the musical landscape would look very different today. So I feel that what I'm doing is not entirely irrelevant. And at the end of the day, no one's obliged to read my stuff. Now go away."
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Post by Mark on Jan 4, 2023 12:31:19 GMT -5
People often come up to me in the street and ask, "jk, what are you doing on a Beach Boys website? Almost everything you post isn't Beach Boys related at all!" My answer is invariably the same: "Well, I was besotted with the music of Brian and the Boys when I joined my first BB forum nearly 20 years ago. Since then, that passion has cooled appreciably, almost to the point of Beach Boys Burnout a few years ago. Why? I suspect it's information overload, which is why I pick and choose which BB threads I read these days (and what BB music I listen to). And believe me there's plenty of stuff here and at BBT that's an absolute joy to read. "Getting back to your original question, the key word in all of this is context. The Boys' music wasn't created in a vacuum -- no one's music is. And without their music large areas of the musical landscape would look very different today. So I feel that what I'm doing is not entirely irrelevant. And at the end of the day, no one's obliged to read my stuff. Now go away." I would like to respectfully disagree with the line of questioning of that guff filled passer by. Your off topic content is top tier and a great boon to the site. The more non BB stuff in that part of the forum the better, always good to broaden horizons and shoot the breeze whilst keeping up to date with, and getting into the weeds about, my fave band. I’m not obliged to read your stuff, but I love to do so. Keep up the great work 🙏
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Post by filledeplage on Jan 4, 2023 12:50:37 GMT -5
People often come up to me in the street and ask, "jk, what are you doing on a Beach Boys website? Almost everything you post isn't Beach Boys related at all!" My answer is invariably the same: "Well, I was besotted with the music of Brian and the Boys when I joined my first BB forum nearly 20 years ago. Since then, that passion has cooled appreciably, almost to the point of Beach Boys Burnout a few years ago. Why? I suspect it's information overload, which is why I pick and choose which BB threads I read these days (and what BB music I listen to). And believe me there's plenty of stuff here and at BBT that's an absolute joy to read. "Getting back to your original question, the key word in all of this is context. The Boys' music wasn't created in a vacuum -- no one's music is. And without their music large areas of the musical landscape would look very different today. So I feel that what I'm doing is not entirely irrelevant. And at the end of the day, no one's obliged to read my stuff. Now go away." That is very true, it is all built on some music form, including Classical, Gregorian chant, Far Eastern and the Middle Eastern influence on surf music, thanks to Dick Dale. It is all relevant, because these music fragments sort of imprint on one’s brain, from the home, school, radio and actually during infancy and childhood.
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Post by Mark on Jan 4, 2023 12:57:46 GMT -5
People often come up to me in the street and ask, "jk, what are you doing on a Beach Boys website? Almost everything you post isn't Beach Boys related at all!" My answer is invariably the same: "Well, I was besotted with the music of Brian and the Boys when I joined my first BB forum nearly 20 years ago. Since then, that passion has cooled appreciably, almost to the point of Beach Boys Burnout a few years ago. Why? I suspect it's information overload, which is why I pick and choose which BB threads I read these days (and what BB music I listen to). And believe me there's plenty of stuff here and at BBT that's an absolute joy to read. "Getting back to your original question, the key word in all of this is context. The Boys' music wasn't created in a vacuum -- no one's music is. And without their music large areas of the musical landscape would look very different today. So I feel that what I'm doing is not entirely irrelevant. And at the end of the day, no one's obliged to read my stuff. Now go away." That is very true, it is all built on some music form, including Classical, Gregorian chant, Far Eastern and the Middle Eastern influence on surf music, thanks to Dick Dale. It is all relevant, because these music fragments sort of imprint on one’s brain, from the home, school, radio and actually during infancy and childhood. As it happens I finished my work day listening to 15 Big Ones and was rocking to That Same Song! Yup, we’re still singing it 🙏
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Post by filledeplage on Jan 4, 2023 13:13:50 GMT -5
That is very true, it is all built on some music form, including Classical, Gregorian chant, Far Eastern and the Middle Eastern influence on surf music, thanks to Dick Dale. It is all relevant, because these music fragments sort of imprint on one’s brain, from the home, school, radio and actually during infancy and childhood. As it happens I finished my work day listening to 15 Big Ones and was rocking to That Same Song! Yup, we’re still singing it 🙏 That came up on my YouTube line up this morning. Yes, That Same Song!
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Post by jk on Jan 4, 2023 13:17:12 GMT -5
filledeplage and Mark , thank you for your reassuring and kind words. Someone (Silken?) once complimented me for holding the fort in this section of the forum. Well now I shall happily continue to hold this particular fort -- with all guns blazing.
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Post by jk on Jan 10, 2023 5:55:31 GMT -5
This is for the beautiful tall tree in the back garden adjacent to ours, which is being chopped down branch by branch as I type this. Some people are so short-sighted. The words "ecosystem", "coffin" and "nail" come to mind, not necessarily in that order:
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Post by jk on Jan 16, 2023 6:19:54 GMT -5
This is something that has been preying on my mind for quite a while now. A month or two ago, an enlightened presenter at the official Dutch "classical" radio station played a piece by Tchaikovsky conducted by the Russian conductor Valery Gergiev *. Now maestro Gergiev had refrained from condemning his country's "military exercise" after repeatedly being asked to do so. From then on his presence in the West was no longer welcome. His concerts and conducting duties around the Western world were passed on to others, often with complete changes of programme, and his annual Dutch festival was cancelled. On reflection, a far more constructive solution would have been not to ban him and cancel everything, and continue as planned. Keep the festival, maybe slightly revised, but keep it -- and invite Gergiev to continue presenting it. Everyone seems to have forgotten the most important aspect of all this: dialogue. It's like the extremely short-sighted tactic of destroying statues of controversial historical figures and/or throwing them into the river -- or changing the names of buildings because of the name-givers' controversial past. How on earth can one discuss things (and hopefully move forward) when those things are no longer there? OK, end of rant. * Regrettably this has not happened again since. Did the presenter get their knuckles rapped for their troubles?
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Post by jk on Jul 9, 2023 3:55:50 GMT -5
How about this for a random thought? It starts and stops with itself… One of the many ways of timelining the Boys' recorded work is to divide it into the following four periods: the pre-Bruce years (up to and including Today!), the golden Bruce era (up to and including So Tough), the inter-Bruce years (up to and including M.I.U.) and the permanent return of Bruce. I'd even organized a double LP of 24 tracks from the Bruceless years (no life!) but I won't bore you with the details.
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Post by jk on Jul 13, 2023 15:57:38 GMT -5
It was either here or in the quotes topic. Here makes more sense -- and no, I am not starting a recipes thread in this bereft corner of the forum...
JK's Lasagna I call it lasagna (and not lasagne) because that's the way the Dutch spell it
Ingredients (for two big adult eaters)
At least one packet of yellow lasagna sheets (straight from packet to dish!) 5 oz. Parmesan (grated or in flakes) 11 oz. mincemeat 5 oz. bacon chopped or ready diced ("spekjes") self-raising flour 3 medium-sized onions chopped small 3 cloves of garlic finely chopped 1 small (thumb-length) tin of tomato paste ("puree") wine to fill the empty paste tin 3 or 4 chopped celery stalks 16-24 oz. deep-frozen spinach (fresh spinach is too watery) milk margarine (or something resembling it; I never use olive oil for lasagna) ground black pepper paprika powder ground nutmeg
Recommended beverage: chilled white wine
I can't be precise about the quantities of milk, margarine and flour, basically because I don't know what they are. This began as a standard recipe and evolved along the way, the way recipes do. So will yours -- more celery, less Parmesan, no wine, whatever. Good luck!
Instructions
Preheat oven at 180 degrees Celsius. I use the 200-degree "hot oven" of my AGA cooker and that works fine.
Grease largish oven dish thoroughly, especially the base.
Melt spinach on a very low gas (or in the "simmering oven" of a range cooker).
Heat margarine in frying pan. Throw in finely chopped garlic and then onions. When fairly brown add mincemeat seasoned with pepper, paprika powder and a dash of nutmeg and fry for 5-10 minutes. Add bacon and chopped celery. Fry for a further 5-10 minutes, stirring as you go. When all this looks good, add tomato paste and then wine filling the empty paste tin. Stir well and put on low gas (or in simmering oven).
Heat margarine/whatever in small pan, stirring in flour to thicken and then milk bit by bit. You should make enough sauce to cover three layers in the dish. When almost ready add a knob of butter and a generous sprinkling of nutmeg to taste.
When the frozen spinach is melted and warm, drain thoroughly in a sieve, add to the contents of the frying pan and mix well.
Now, fill up the dish with three sets of three layers of lasagna sheets (break to cover entire surface), the spinach/fried mixture and the sauce (this should be the last layer). If in doubt, cover just the central area of the two lower layers with sauce so as to have enough left to cover the entire top layer, including the edges.
Sprinkle the Parmesan over the top and consign to the preheated oven (or "hot oven" -- see above) for about 30 minutes or when the Parmesan is melted and nicely brown. Enjoy!
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Post by jk on Aug 1, 2023 4:40:40 GMT -5
Eric Carmen once described The Beach Boys' voices as each being an instrument. Brian was a French horn, Carl was a flute, Alan a trumpet, Dennis a trombone and Mike a baritone sax.
Well, I looked in vain for a work in any genre for just these five instruments. Even when you substitute a cello or a bassoon for the bari, there's nothing to be found. Still, I'll keep looking at odd moments (no life!).
Edit: I did manage to find this piece for flute, horn, trumpet, trombone and tuba (regrettably not the real instruments). O Come, Desire of Nations was composed by Marshall M. Kerr:
There's another on YouTube written for this combination but it sounds even more unnatural.
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Post by jk on Aug 19, 2023 15:02:33 GMT -5
After an initial attempt six years ago at Smiley, I've just made a more complete and hopefully more accurate transcription of "Lonely Days". If anyone's interested, it's here.
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Post by jk on Oct 9, 2023 7:58:43 GMT -5
This is an audio recording of the U2 concert my late pen pal attended in 1992 (she was a massive fan). We never met, so you might describe this as the closest thing to it. It was uploaded to YouTube four years ago but I doubt whether she ever noticed it. (She died in mid 2020.)
Regrettably, it doesn't include her favourite U2 song, "Electrical Storm". Anyway, this is for her:
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Post by jk on Dec 12, 2023 5:45:56 GMT -5
It's fascinating just how long some things take to dawn on one. I've known Bobby Fuller Four's "I Fought The Law" since 1966 and could dream the line "Robbing people with a… six-gun" (here at 1:20) but never imagined the pair of snare triplets was more than just a break in the accompaniment (as in, say, The Trashmen's "Surfin' Bird") until yesterday. Of course -- it was the six-gun in action! (Curiously, the original by The Crickets has the same pair of triplets but with "zip gun" instead of six-gun (also at 1:20). Zip guns are/were mostly home-made affairs only capable of firing one shot.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Fought_the_Law
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Post by jk on Dec 12, 2023 17:45:18 GMT -5
Until now I have been prefacing surnames of female composers and musicians with "Ms", out of respect, I felt. (I did keep wondering why no one else was doing it.) Now I'm not so sure. Is the use of "Ms" a question of being polite or does it come across as patronizing? Perhaps a female poster ( filledeplage?) can shed some light on this...
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Post by filledeplage on Dec 12, 2023 17:51:53 GMT -5
Until now I have been prefacing surnames of female composers and musicians with "Ms", out of respect, I felt. (I did keep wondering why no one else was doing it.) Now I'm not so sure. Is the use of "Ms" a question of being polite or does it come across as patronizing? Perhaps a female poster ( filledeplage ?) can shed some light on this... Thanks for asking...but I never gave it a thought. I've always thought of first names for either as long as it was not in person. Does that make any sense? It used to be in show biz that even married women were most often introduced as "Miss." as in Miss Lucille Ball - when she was actually Mrs. Desi Arnaz. Miss was respect in an age when in polite company you would never ask a woman her age. 🤷♀️ Here I sit - right on the fence. 😂
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Post by jk on Dec 12, 2023 18:27:25 GMT -5
Until now I have been prefacing surnames of female composers and musicians with "Ms", out of respect, I felt. (I did keep wondering why no one else was doing it.) Now I'm not so sure. Is the use of "Ms" a question of being polite or does it come across as patronizing? Perhaps a female poster ( filledeplage ?) can shed some light on this... Thanks for asking...but I never gave it a thought. I've always thought of first names for either as long as it was not in person. Does that make any sense? It used to be in show biz that even married women were most often introduced as "Miss." as in Miss Lucille Ball - when she was actually Mrs. Desi Arnaz. Miss was respect in an age when in polite company you would never ask a woman her age. 🤷♀️ Here I sit - right on the fence. 😂 OK, thanks! Still, what I really meant (and didn't explain properly) was whether one should describe, for example, the composer Amy Beach in the second mention of her name in an essay/post as Ms Beach or just Beach.
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Post by filledeplage on Dec 12, 2023 19:04:22 GMT -5
Thanks for asking...but I never gave it a thought. I've always thought of first names for either as long as it was not in person. Does that make any sense? It used to be in show biz that even married women were most often introduced as "Miss." as in Miss Lucille Ball - when she was actually Mrs. Desi Arnaz. Miss was respect in an age when in polite company you would never ask a woman her age. 🤷♀️ Here I sit - right on the fence. 😂 OK, thanks! Still, what I really meant (and didn't explain properly) was whether one should describe, for example, the composer Amy Beach in the second mention of her name in an essay/post as Ms Beach or just Beach. Ms. - probably will work unless you know she is married and uses Mrs. - formally. When you use Mr. - you don't know marital status. Ms. - sort of neutralized that where you were not disclosing your status. You're fine.
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Post by jk on Dec 13, 2023 6:30:57 GMT -5
Thanks again, FDP. I know enough now to leave things exactly as they are!
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Post by jk on Jan 15, 2024 7:55:53 GMT -5
People occasionally come up to me in the street and ask (in Dutch), "JK, why do you call the classical thread at EH 'Roll Over, Stravinsky'?"
"Well", I explain (in Dutch), "in the original opening post it was followed in brackets by 'and tell Ligeti the news', until I foolishly deleted my account first time round due to a conflict of loyalties. I’d named it in memory of the classical thread I'd launched at PSF called 'Roll Over, Tchaikovsky' (and tell Stravinsky the news), which itself was one step away from the Chuck Berry song. Get the picture? Good. Now f*** off."
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Post by jk on Feb 6, 2024 15:34:49 GMT -5
A recent remark in the main section brought up the ticklish subject of "knowing your stuff". Does "not knowing my stuff" worry me? Not at all. It's the varying degrees of BB knowledge among posters who interact that keep the likes of this forum alive and kicking. If we were all raging encyclopedias on the subject, this place would be as dull as ditchwater.
What concerns me far more is the inability of so many fans to get certain names spelt right, "Murray" being the most inexplicable of these errors. Poor Jack Rieley gets the worst of it though. I once read a thread devoted to Jack at another forum where his surname was misspelt in five different ways: Riley, Reiley, Rielly, Reilly and Reily!! He deserves better.
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Post by jk on Feb 8, 2024 5:47:16 GMT -5
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