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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 13:28:05 GMT -5
Watching The Time Machine (1960) and Hitchcock's The Birds makes me upset that Rod Taylor wasn't in more movies. He was a great leading man, handsome, suave and compassionate. I've seen a lot of old movies and these are the only two leading roles I know him from. Me too, Leni. Agree with you. There's sadly many good actors which didn't get to frequently shine in screen. Incidentally (fits the thread title), doesn't Rod look like Robin Williams? There's few face similarities. He looks like a cross between a young Robin Williams and Peter O'Toole in my opinion. On the subject of under-appreciated actors, another one that comes to mind is Omar Shariff. I'm watching Funny Girl as I type this and he's excellent in that movie. He was also phenomenal in Lawrence of Arabia and Dr. Zhivago. EDIT: Also, it's funny how Barbara Streisand starred in a remake of A Star is Born considering Funny Girl is essentially the exact same story just with slight differences. Even right down to the final song by the female lead about never giving up on the guy even if their relationship didn't work out.
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 8, 2019 14:01:40 GMT -5
Random Thought of the Day: My facial recognition ability sucks. I'm speaking mainly where it's concerning differentiation of on-screen personalities, but it happens to me in real life as well. I'm definitely the guy to go up and introduce myself to somebody at a party, only to have that person respond, "yeah man, we met at so-and-so. don't you remember me?" Awkward.
Right there with you. I have no gift at all for remembering people whom I've met casually here or there--sometimes even multiple times. This is why I could never be a salesman...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 14:09:44 GMT -5
@iluvleniloud Yes, now that you say, I see Peter in Rod's face. Omar is under-appreciated in compare with the others but he's still recognized by many. Do you like any actor who played in episode in single or few films which made impression to you? Example - I really marvelled at the Peter Lorre character's sister played by Cicely Oates in the 30s version of "The Man Who Knew Too Much (which Hitch will remake his film in the 50s). She didn't get many film credits which is pity. Would be curious to read what you say. Let's discuss. I talked about this in another thread.Besides them, I'd also say that Lindsay Lohan was a talented young actress before she blew it. I don't know if I'd call her a great talent but I had a teenage crush on Ashley Tisdale (my sister watched a lot of Disney Channel) so it sucked not seeing her go anywhere. Katija Pevec was fantastic in Just for Kicks. It was obviously a stupid tween sitcom and full of cheesiness, but I absolutely thought she could act (especially in the sleepover episode.) It's a shame her career died along with the show. Then there's Joyce DeWitt, whom they unfortunately left out of the Three's Company spinoff and she never really did anything again.
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 8, 2019 14:19:21 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder whether certain colleagues are trolling the world, because it seems impossible they're quite so stupid and lazy as they seem. I mean this charitably, too. I'm not holding people to some ridiculous standard. The performance and attitudes are sometimes so bad, it just seems impossible that it's an honest effort for relatively high-level professionals. Truly, laughably bad ... or would be, if it didn't come across like a dare of "well, you can do more, if you want ... but I'll leave it at this [lump of shit I call results]."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 14:34:44 GMT -5
Beach Boys Fan Like I said, Katija Pevec. Great actress who was the lone bright spot on an otherwise dull and forgettable tween sitcom. Deserved to go on to bigger and better things. Beyond that, I'd have to think about it some more. Off the top of my head right now, nobody else is coming to mind.
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Post by bonniebella on Feb 8, 2019 16:35:57 GMT -5
Not actors and well known enough, but Scott Moore, DJ Fontana and especially Bill Black can really get a groove on. While supposedly not the greatest bassist ever, Bill Black had a stage presence that caught my eye instead of those rubber legs and that floppy hair. Sorry, Elvis.
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 10, 2019 17:25:54 GMT -5
There is something wrong with a world (e.g., the Grammys' world) in which Beck is the winner of "Best Alternative Music Album" above people like Arctic Monkeys, Bjork, David Byrne, and St. Vincent. I don't mean that him beating them is wrong, but that this collection of artists is considered "alternative."
Solution? Obviously ignoring the Grammys is the best solution. Let the industry's insiders enjoy their mutual masturbation society while the world goes on its merry way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 21:36:01 GMT -5
Sal Mineo and John Cazale are also some good examples of unknown actors who deserved more praise than they get. Just rewatched Dog Day Afternoon this evening and was reminded how great the latter was. I read a Sal Mineo biography my first year in college--he led a more interesting life than you'd expect.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 20:15:01 GMT -5
I was playing the ROM Hack Super Metroid: Searching For Items when the game glitched out and this happened. Creepy shit.
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Post by Beach Boys Fan on Feb 13, 2019 18:04:01 GMT -5
Sunny weather time past few days. Took pics at dawn depicting sunrise via Nikon camera. It's about time this habit begins (like true Beach Boys Fan, I reference Beach Boys song).
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Post by AGD on Feb 18, 2019 7:45:47 GMT -5
Not so much a random thought as an observation: nothing, but absolutely nothing annoys a troll more than being completely ignored.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 20:13:05 GMT -5
Ive been thinking about this scene lately, and how wonderful it is. I wish I could make a proclamation like that and have everyone follow my lead. "Let's go to the window!"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 20:15:17 GMT -5
Meant to ask you this, @iluvleniloud - do you agree/ disagree with rule that stray dogs get killed even if they're not rabid? I think it's brutal, must be done something else. What will you say, Leni? Would be interesting to discuss. Next question to page @iluvleniloud - can it be nepotism if famed musician is joined in his/ her band by son/ daughter, gets to produce the junior's album, helps in any way in the same career path to boost the junior's cred? Likewise, if popular thespian's kid stars in movies alongside them? Me, I'm puzzled to tell with 100% sureness, thus would like to know what YOU think, Leni. Discuss. Yeah, dont kill dogs. Dogs just want a home, man. Yes, it's nepotism. Not necessarily a terrible thing (you could argue we wouldnt have the Beach Boys without it) but that's definitiely nepotism.
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Post by lizzielooziani on Feb 20, 2019 11:27:40 GMT -5
Meant to ask you this, @iluvleniloud - do you agree/ disagree with rule that stray dogs get killed even if they're not rabid? I think it's brutal, must be done something else. What will you say, Leni? Would be interesting to discuss. Next question to page @iluvleniloud - can it be nepotism if famed musician is joined in his/ her band by son/ daughter, gets to produce the junior's album, helps in any way in the same career path to boost the junior's cred? Likewise, if popular thespian's kid stars in movies alongside them? Me, I'm puzzled to tell with 100% sureness, thus would like to know what YOU think, Leni. Discuss. I don't like stray dogs being euthanized. But it's such a big problem where I live (southern US). There's a culture down here that doesn't believe in having dogs neutered so there's so many mama dogs with their puppies. One day when I was driving out in the countryside a young dog ran in front of my car and I injured him. I was freaking out but the owner came out and his attitude was "no big deal," if the dog died it wouldn't be a big deal. (It looked like the pup might have a broken leg). It's this strange southern thing that I hate where animals are treated like objects that could be tossed away. As for your second question technically it would be nepotism. Not a problem to me if the family member being helped has genuine talent. However the word "nepotism" is usually associated with someone hiring a family member in a government job. That's usually a no-no but of course it's happened in our President's administration.
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Post by lizzielooziani on Feb 20, 2019 11:31:42 GMT -5
Sunny weather time past few days. Took pics at dawn depicting sunrise via Nikon camera. It's about time this habit begins (like true Beach Boys Fan, I reference Beach Boys song). Wish I had a real camera. I usually don't see the sunrises as I'm doing things then but have seen beautiful sunsets. And wonderful cloud formations.
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 20, 2019 11:36:57 GMT -5
My girlfriend is extremely interested in the stray dog issue (which explains our three rescues...). I've only learned about the issue over the past few years through her: I wasn't a pet owner or particularly interested prior to her presence.
While euthanizing strays is awful, honestly I'm not sure what other solution there is in the short or mid term. (In the long term, better efforts to neuter and spay could help a lot. Getting rid of breeders would be nice, too.) It takes not only money, but personal attention and physical space to properly care for dogs. Clearly there isn't sufficient money or attention for these dogs or we wouldn't have shelters overflowing and turning dogs away the way we do.
Euthanasia is a more humane death than starvation or disease on the street, awful as it is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 15:17:49 GMT -5
My girlfriend is extremely interested in the stray dog issue (which explains our three rescues...). I've only learned about the issue over the past few years through her: I wasn't a pet owner or particularly interested prior to her presence.
While euthanizing strays is awful, honestly I'm not sure what other solution there is in the short or mid term. (In the long term, better efforts to neuter and spay could help a lot. Getting rid of breeders would be nice, too.) It takes not only money, but personal attention and physical space to properly care for dogs. Clearly there isn't sufficient money or attention for these dogs or we wouldn't have shelters overflowing and turning dogs away the way we do.
Euthanasia is a more humane death than starvation or disease on the street, awful as it is.
I know friends who've adopted and raised beautiful dogs from a shelter so I guess that's what I'm basing my opinion on. I don't think euthanasia should be the first option but in cases where no better alternative can be found then yeah, it has to be done. Why do you say get rid of breeders? From what I understand, getting your dog from a breeder is the better option than some puppy sweat shop like Petco or one of the other chains. They're often better at refusing to sell to people who wouldn't provide a good home too, considering they do it for the love of the animal as opposed to a dime-counting business. Maybe this is veering into political territory but that's not my intent: Since the subject of euthanasia has come up, I believe it should be legal for people as well. It falls under the category of bodily autonomy. No government should be able to tell you what you do with your own body. If you want to eat unhealthy food, you should be free to do so. If you want to do drugs, you should be able to. If you want a piercing or tattoo, you want to have sex with a consenting adult, to take hormones and transition...all of these should be nobody's business but your own (and, where applicable, your partner or doctor.) Euthanasia is the extreme end of it, but it falls under the same principle--a society that would compel you to exist in a state of physical and/or psychological agony is not just. If we can't determine what we do with our own bodies, we are not truly free.
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Feb 20, 2019 16:31:50 GMT -5
Just to clear something up, I have never seen a Petco or Petsmart sell dogs for puppy mills. Many host adoption events for animal shelters, though. Even the cats they have are for adoption. If you want a pure bred dog, then go to qualified breeders.
Also, euthanasia for animals and euthanasia for people are two different animals. People decide what animals are euthanized. Never met a pet yet who chose it for themselves. Do you really want some other human choosing when it is your time do die?
Killing one’s self has never been legal, yet it hasn’t stopped one soul from committing suicide if that is how they want to end their life.
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 20, 2019 16:44:13 GMT -5
I don't want to wade in beyond my depth, but the argument against breeders as I understand it is that when you have wildly overpopulated shelters of dogs who will most likely be killed--including many purebreds, actually--it's not a great idea to encourage businesses to make more dogs just because they will pass some potential owners' race-purity test. (There are also the health issues that often accompany purebred dogs, but that is another issue.)
That's about as far as I go with it, though.
As for beautiful (and kind, loyal, and trainable) dogs coming from shelters, I can 100% vouch for that. We've got three of them and had four until one had cancer last spring and had to be euthanized.
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Feb 20, 2019 16:52:33 GMT -5
I currently own a shelter dog. She is a mutt, but looks mostly like an American Coon Hound. At the time, I was looking for a Dalmatian. Not a one to be had in any shelters within a 100 miles of my house. Hell, I even had a hard time finding a breeder at that time of year within 150 miles. Point is, if you want a certain full breed dog, good, qualified breeders are the way to go. Breeders are careful in their breeding techniques, unlike puppy mills which tend to have a lot of inbreeding and health issues.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:05:01 GMT -5
Also, euthanasia for animals and euthanasia for people are two different animals. People decide what animals are euthanized. Never met a pet yet who chose it for themselves. Do you really want some other human choosing when it is your time do die?Killing one’s self has never been legal, yet it hasn’t stopped one soul from committing suicide if that is how they want to end their life. That's clearly not what I was talking about. My post emphasized the individual's choice over their own body and I don't see how that could have been taken to be "I think doctors should be able to kill their patients when they want to." There's a big difference between having the drugs to pass away painlessly when you're terminally ill, weak, maybe bed-ridden and the current means of suicide. The former is a dignified, peaceful passing for someone who makes an informed decision to end their own suffering. The latter means violent, painful, sometimes unsuccessful and traumatic (to people who find you) means--jumping off a bridge, into a train, gunshot.... you get the idea. It's cruel and unusual that we force people to endure these agonies when they have no hope of recovering. We treat terminally ill/injured dogs with more respect than we do people.
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Feb 20, 2019 17:30:39 GMT -5
I never mentioned a doctor once. While a doctor could be a person to make that decision, it could also include family members, close friends, caretakers, etc. I say this because in my own mother’s case, 96 with Alzheimer’s disease, she suffered in the end, but even if legal, euthanasia as you see it, would not have worked for her, because she was not cognizant enough to make her own decision. Someone else, like myself or my brother or sister would have had to make that decision for her. Just like with infanticide in New York and Virginia, it is another human ending another human’s life. I don’t believe any human should play god, like that. I do agree with you though, that if one is diagnosed as terminally ill, that that person should have a say in how they leave this world.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:00:52 GMT -5
I never mentioned a doctor once. While a doctor could be a person to make that decision, it could also include family members, close friends, caretakers, etc. I say this because in my own mother’s case, 96 with Alzheimer’s disease, she suffered in the end, but even if legal, euthanasia as you see it, would not have worked for her, because she was not cognizant enough to make her own decision. Someone else, like myself or my brother or sister would have had to make that decision for her. Just like with infanticide in New York and Virginia, it is another human ending another human’s life. I don’t believe any human should play god, like that. I do agree with you though, that if one is diagnosed as terminally ill, that that person should have a say in how they leave this world. Fair enough, glad we can agree that people who have the ability to choose should have the right to choose. However, in cases where there is no ability for the patient to decide for themselves, I understand the conundrum. I don't have the perfect answer for cases like that but maybe it could be addressed in a person's will or decided by whoever has power of attorney. I don't mean to sound insensitive but we already give people the power to decide to unplug feeding/breathing machines. If we're going to expand this conversation to include abortion, then there's also the 25+ states which still have the death penalty. (Even operating under the premise that guilty people deserve their fate, innocent people get sentenced all time time.) For better or worse, we already give many people in our society the power of life and death.
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 20, 2019 18:05:36 GMT -5
(Recommend moving to the politics thread. Though if Dirk is an admin maybe it's safe.)
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Feb 20, 2019 18:21:31 GMT -5
For me, it is a random thought with political overtones. These are definitely things that should be thought about, randomly or specifically. My mom has been gone for 10 months now, but I am still mad that that nasty disease took her from herself and then from the family.
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