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Post by Emdeeh on Jun 5, 2023 20:37:00 GMT -5
That pic looks more like Huey Lewis than Dennis to me....
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Post by ian on Jun 5, 2023 20:41:02 GMT -5
Yeah-that is Huey Lewis!!
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Post by Rick Bartlett on Jun 5, 2023 22:48:37 GMT -5
Hard to imagine what Dennis would look like, he was pretty rough looking in the end. Would he have been able to clean up his act if time allowed? A sober Dennis Wilson? Hard to fathom. It's a mind mess thinking what could have been, considering, let's look at 1983 Brian, nobody would have ever imagined he would have got himself together and do what he did. What would Dennis have been able to do? His vocal career may have taken him on a whole Cocker/Dylan-esque vibe that may have taken him further into a solo career..?... The few times we see Dennis front The Beach Boys, shows he is clearly the second most able of the group to front the group and take command of the audience. The guy had something we never got to see the full potential of.
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Post by west on Jun 6, 2023 0:21:44 GMT -5
It begs the question, was Dennis' voice repairable if he did make it past December 1983?
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Post by jk on Jun 6, 2023 6:22:46 GMT -5
If you're interested in images of DW -- I've always found this time-projection image fascinating:
If Dennis were alive today perhaps, he might look something like . . .
This reminds me of the Nik Cohn/Guy Peellaert book Rock Dreams, which I now see devotes two spreads to the Boys, *here* and *here*. The second is not exactly flattering, but it says something about the Boys' lack of status in the "rock world" of 1973.
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Post by bessieboporbach on Jun 6, 2023 6:53:42 GMT -5
I've lifted this subject from another thread, as it's a little puzzling. There are no drums credited on "From There To Back Again", not in the song's wiki, not in the album's wiki and not in the liner notes. Yet there are clearly drums to be heard, as pointed out by some good people around here who obviously know the song better than I do. I can only assume no one knows who's playing drums on this track. Or am I missing something somewhere? Since Nelson Bragg is credited on "Strange World" and "Pacific Coast Highway," if would make sense that he is the one playing the percussion on "From There to Back Again." It does sort of sound like his kit.
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Post by jk on Jun 6, 2023 7:08:48 GMT -5
I've lifted this subject from another thread, as it's a little puzzling. There are no drums credited on "From There To Back Again", not in the song's wiki, not in the album's wiki and not in the liner notes. Yet there are clearly drums to be heard, as pointed out by some good people around here who obviously know the song better than I do. I can only assume no one knows who's playing drums on this track. Or am I missing something somewhere? Since Nelson Bragg is credited on "Strange World" and "Pacific Coast Highway," it would make sense that he is the one playing the percussion on "From There to Back Again." It does sort of sound like his kit. Thank you, BBOB. It would indeed make sense. And welcome!
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Post by Micha on Jun 6, 2023 15:40:30 GMT -5
Yeah-that is Huey Lewis!! What? Huey Lewis is really Dennis Wilson? He faked his death? Who would have thought...
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Post by Sam_BFC on Jun 7, 2023 13:33:47 GMT -5
I was reading through initial reactions to The Like In I Love You on Smiley from back in 2010, always an interesting experience to take a step back in internet time.
My question is: did the original Brian/Darian/Linett (?) mix of Reimagines Gershwin ever find its way to anyone's ears? Of course the released version was remixed by Al Schmitt at Disney's request
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Post by AGD on Jun 7, 2023 17:14:00 GMT -5
I was reading through initial reactions to The Like In I Love You on Smiley from back in 2010, always an interesting experience to take a step back in internet time. My question is: did the original Brian/Darian/Linett (?) mix of Reimagines Gershwin ever find its way to anyone's ears? Of course the released version was remixed by Al Schmitt at Disney's request Yes, and it didn't sound that different. Schmitt's mix was perhaps a little smoother. Mark engineered the sessions but had nothing to do with the mix... however in the album credits there's this curious little line: "Mix Prep by Brian Wilson, Darian Sahanaja and Nick Walusko". I'm guessing that's what I heard.
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Post by Sam_BFC on Jun 7, 2023 17:39:25 GMT -5
Nice. Do you have a copy (won't ask you to share), or was it shared at some event? I suppose the prospect of a more public airing is low.
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Post by AGD on Jun 8, 2023 1:00:20 GMT -5
I heard it pre-release.
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Post by jay on Jun 8, 2023 10:04:03 GMT -5
It begs the question, was Dennis' voice repairable if he did make it past December 1983? I recall a post Ed Roach made on Facebook a few years ago about Dennis having an operation on his throat/vocal chords(I'm not sure of the specifics) around 1983. Apparently Dennis was strongly warned against it because it would do more harm than good, but he had it done anyway. I'm assuming the voice we hear on a few 1983 shows is the result of that operation.
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Post by west on Jun 9, 2023 0:23:32 GMT -5
It begs the question, was Dennis' voice repairable if he did make it past December 1983? I recall a post Ed Roach made on Facebook a few years ago about Dennis having an operation on his throat/vocal chords(I'm not sure of the specifics) around 1983. Apparently Dennis was strongly warned against it because it would do more harm than good, but he had it done anyway. I'm assuming the voice we hear on a few 1983 shows is the result of that operation. I believe I heard or read that too. Listening to him with 'You Are So Beautiful' on the American Band video, I just don't see how that voice recovers. If he could have gone back to just even his 76-80 voice, I would've been extremely content with that!
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Post by jk on Jun 17, 2023 15:02:40 GMT -5
This topic has been broached in another thread without much success. What, if anything, is known for certain about the live performance on 17 or 18 January 1964 in Sydney Stadium of "What'd I Say"? This source names Carl as lead singer "with what sounds like Brian, Al, and Mike on backup vocals". And, from that same source, "Was it the Joy Boys playing background? The sax playing and all other playing is so different." This description (in the first column) doesn't help (with thanks to petsite for the image): Thoughts, anyone?
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Post by AGD on Jun 18, 2023 5:04:21 GMT -5
This topic has been broached in another thread without much success. What, if anything, is known for certain about the live performance on 17 or 18 January 1964 in Sydney Stadium of "What'd I Say"? This source names Carl as lead singer "with what sounds like Brian, Al, and Mike on backup vocals". And, from that same source, "Was it the Joy Boys playing background? The sax playing and all other playing is so different." This description (in the first column) doesn't help (with thanks to petsite for the image): Thoughts, anyone? So much of that info is (now) woefully inaccurate, notably those for The Survivors and Sharon Marie.
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Post by Rick Bartlett on Jun 18, 2023 5:17:50 GMT -5
This topic has been broached in another thread without much success. What, if anything, is known for certain about the live performance on 17 or 18 January 1964 in Sydney Stadium of "What'd I Say"? This source names Carl as lead singer "with what sounds like Brian, Al, and Mike on backup vocals". And, from that same source, "Was it the Joy Boys playing background? The sax playing and all other playing is so different." This description (in the first column) doesn't help (with thanks to petsite for the image): Thoughts, anyone? So much of that info is (now) woefully inaccurate, notably those for The Survivors and Sharon Marie. I wouldn't believe anything written by Glen A Baker. Our so called 'Rock Historian' dribbles incorrect details with everything he touches. Col Joye is still alive! He would have a better memory than anybody, and he WAS there!
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Post by AGD on Jun 18, 2023 6:32:34 GMT -5
It'd be an instructive exercise (and a LOT of fun) to list all the inaccuracies in those liner notes...
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Post by Mopp on Jun 18, 2023 9:22:53 GMT -5
This topic has been broached in another thread without much success. What, if anything, is known for certain about the live performance on 17 or 18 January 1964 in Sydney Stadium of "What'd I Say"? This source names Carl as lead singer "with what sounds like Brian, Al, and Mike on backup vocals". And, from that same source, "Was it the Joy Boys playing background? The sax playing and all other playing is so different." This description (in the first column) doesn't help (with thanks to petsite for the image): Thoughts, anyone? Interesting... Here I thought "This Whole World" was a song recorded by the Beach Boys. But lo and behold, looking at my copy of Sunflower I see no such song. Just a mysterious line of tippex.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 18, 2023 11:23:39 GMT -5
It'd be an instructive exercise (and a LOT of fun) to list all the inaccuracies in those liner notes... Please do, Andrew. Others join in, too. Would be interesting, and this is the right thread to do it in. On "What'd I Say" - a very strong showing for a young Carl on lead vocal. The call and response: I clearly hear Brian, "Why not?". I hear Mike, and don't doubt Al is in there. The song seems to me to be a rousing closing number for the show, with more than just one band on stage. Wasn't overdubbed later, so, I'm hearing more instruments than just The Beach Boys.
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Post by jk on Jun 18, 2023 13:14:54 GMT -5
It'd be an instructive exercise (and a LOT of fun) to list all the inaccuracies in those liner notes... What a mess! What the heck is going on in poor Glen C's paragraph? How about vocal cords for a start? Ye gods. And then we look to our right and lo and behold there's Rushtyn Pamphlin... "Neither it or Sound of Free bear much relation..."? I think I'll retire for the night...
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Post by boogieboarder on Jun 18, 2023 14:55:55 GMT -5
I disagree with the assumption that "The Lord's Prayer" is a seasonal song. There's nothing in it that refers to the Christmas, or any other season. It just happens to have originally appeared on the flip side of "Little Saint Nick."
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Post by dauber on Jun 21, 2023 16:13:16 GMT -5
What's the deal with that song "Our Love" that's on the bootleg titled All This Is That? It might be under other titles, but it's kind of a slow but loud number that doesn't have much to it -- just the sentence "Our love comes gently down on you" in about eighty-bazillion-part harmony, repeated over and over with slight variations on the lyrics. In between there's someone improvising some wordless vocals, and it sounds like a cross between a drunk Blondie Chaplin and a raspy Dennis. Anybody know anything about this song, who wrote it, when it was recorded, etc.?
EDIT: Ughgh. Need to learn how to use a search engine better. It's the second half of "Love Remember Me." (And it shows you how much I listen to Bambu.)
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Post by John Manning on Jun 21, 2023 16:42:03 GMT -5
What's the deal with that song "Our Love" that's on the bootleg titled All This Is That? It might be under other titles, but it's kind of a slow but loud number that doesn't have much to it -- just the sentence "Our love comes gently down on you" in about eighty-bazillion-part harmony, repeated over and over with slight variations on the lyrics. In between there's someone improvising some wordless vocals, and it sounds like a cross between a drunk Blondie Chaplin and a raspy Dennis. Anybody know anything about this song, who wrote it, when it was recorded, etc.?
EDIT: Ughgh. Need to learn how to use a search engine better. It's the second half of "Love Remember Me." (And it shows you how much I listen to Bambu.)
I’ve a vague memory (all my memories are vague!) of Stebbins commenting on this online somewhere at the time of the POB/Bambu release. I think the two halves of LRM were joined specifically for that release, and hadn’t necessarily been intended by Dennis to go together. If you listen to the track very closely, you’ll hear that it’s not a seamless transition into that tag. Whatever, I reckon it’s one of the best tracks on that release, and one of Dennis’s finest.
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Post by Matt H on Jul 5, 2023 9:34:40 GMT -5
Which Beach Boys are on Don't Worry Baby with the Everly Brothers?
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