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Post by Stephen W. Desper on Dec 6, 2023 2:22:49 GMT -5
Brian has always stuck out the most to me in that 'clipped' photo. Just the emotion and look on his face and in his eyes. Comment to west: I can tell you that this photo was taken mid-afternoon. Brian had just been wakened by Diane and talked into coming downstairs from his bedroom to be in a group photo. That is why he is in his robe. The other guys were in the studio. Dennis was out by the pool. I don't know if he had been swimming or not. The three dogs were hanging around outside and came over to see what everyone was doing. I believe an official photographer had come with Diane to take some pictures for the session, but this impromptu shot by Diane turned out to be the keeper. ~swd
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Post by celticsurfer on Dec 6, 2023 2:56:50 GMT -5
I like the group in 1965 along and on a train Cf the US sloop John lyrics sheet.
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Post by Custom Machine on Dec 6, 2023 3:04:39 GMT -5
Brian's holding a mirror, not a framed photo of the group. It is a framed photo. I had this debate with a lot of others before. What finally clinched it for me? Shirts button with the button on the right and the holes on the left. If this was a mirror image, they would be reversed. They are not. Also, at the time, Carl parted his hair on the right, as it is in the photo.
Here it is reversed, with the buttons on the wrong side.
Absolutely! Plus look at the added line drawn above Brian's left leg in the pic which also appears in the supposed mirror image of his leg in the pic. Like you say, the shirt buttons and hair parts give it away as a photo Brian is holding. And while inserting the photo of the guys in the frame would be super easy with today's technology, it was also very possible with a cut and paste back when the pic was taken. Not to mention that successfully arranging a reflected image of the rest of the group with Brain holding a mirror showing them perfectly positioned would be much more difficult than just having BW holding a pic of the group. For years after I first saw the pic I assumed it showed Brain holding a long horizontal pic of the rest of the group until someone noticed, "But wait! The pic shows a reflection of Brian's left knee! So he must be holding a mirror!" But I'd say the supposedly reflected knee was a clever addition by someone in the art department to give the appearance of a mirror.
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Post by petsite on Dec 6, 2023 3:42:20 GMT -5
I don't think so. I've scoured the internet for one that isn't sliced - I had to Photoshop fix it myself. I found this one in an article by Joel Goldenburg in "The Suburban". I have the article somewhere. I will look. It's been driving me crazy. I knew I have that issue of Rolling Stone somewhere. Spent 2 hours looking. Could not find it. BUT, I came across it online. Here is the cover and the photo (cut off):
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Post by E on Dec 6, 2023 5:01:49 GMT -5
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Post by Mikie on Dec 6, 2023 10:18:36 GMT -5
So that's why the photo is sliced. Because there isn't a full photo available. Somebody cut it out of the article as-is. And note the graininess of the "outtake" compared to the more ubiquitous photo.
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Post by Mikie on Dec 6, 2023 10:40:33 GMT -5
I like the group in 1965 along and on a train Cf the US sloop John lyrics sheet.
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Post by petsite on Dec 6, 2023 10:44:15 GMT -5
So that's why the photo is sliced. Because there isn't a full photo available. Somebody cut it out of the article as-is. And note the graininess of the "outtake" compared to the more ubiquitous photo. View AttachmentMy wife was like WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? I knew I had seen it somewhere. My Rolling Stone must be in our storage unit. But glad I found it for you!
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Post by SMiLE-Holland on Dec 6, 2023 10:54:06 GMT -5
Brian has always stuck out the most to me in that 'clipped' photo. Just the emotion and look on his face and in his eyes. Comment to west: I can tell you that this photo was taken mid-afternoon. Brian had just been wakened by Diane and talked into coming downstairs from his bedroom to be in a group photo. That is why he is in his robe. The other guys were in the studio. Dennis was out by the pool. I don't know if he had been swimming or not. The three dogs were hanging around outside and came over to see what everyone was doing. I believe an official photographer had come with Diane to take some pictures for the session, but this impromptu shot by Diane turned out to be the keeper. ~swdWhich makes me wonder; why is Annie Leibovitz (I guess she was the official photographer you mention) claiming to be the photographer of both pics? The picture shown on page one of this topic mentions her name below that pic. If that pic was actually by Marilyn Diane, than it's a strange act from Leibovitz to claim it's hers.
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Post by Mikie on Dec 6, 2023 10:54:22 GMT -5
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Post by Mikie on Dec 6, 2023 10:57:01 GMT -5
Comment to west: I can tell you that this photo was taken mid-afternoon. Brian had just been wakened by Diane and talked into coming downstairs from his bedroom to be in a group photo. That is why he is in his robe. The other guys were in the studio. Dennis was out by the pool. I don't know if he had been swimming or not. The three dogs were hanging around outside and came over to see what everyone was doing. I believe an official photographer had come with Diane to take some pictures for the session, but this impromptu shot by Diane turned out to be the keeper. ~swdIf that pic was actually by Marilyn, than it's a strange act from Leibovitz to claim it's hers. Hey Santa! Welcome to the board! Yeah, I think you meant "Diane", not "Marilyn". And you're right about the photo credit!
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Post by John Manning on Dec 6, 2023 10:58:45 GMT -5
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Post by filledeplage on Dec 6, 2023 10:58:58 GMT -5
Comment to west: I can tell you that this photo was taken mid-afternoon. Brian had just been wakened by Diane and talked into coming downstairs from his bedroom to be in a group photo. That is why he is in his robe. The other guys were in the studio. Dennis was out by the pool. I don't know if he had been swimming or not. The three dogs were hanging around outside and came over to see what everyone was doing. I believe an official photographer had come with Diane to take some pictures for the session, but this impromptu shot by Diane turned out to be the keeper. ~swdWhich makes me wonder; why is Annie Leibovitz (I guess she was the official photographer you mention) claiming to be the photographer of both pics? The picture shown on page one of this topic mentions her name below that pic. If that pic was actually by Marilyn, then it's a strange act from Leibovitz to claim it's hers. Happy Little St. Nick Day! 😎
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Post by Mikie on Dec 6, 2023 11:01:05 GMT -5
So that's why the photo is sliced. Because there isn't a full photo available. Somebody cut it out of the article as-is. And note the graininess of the "outtake" compared to the more ubiquitous photo. View AttachmentMy wife was like WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? I knew I had seen it somewhere. My Rolling Stone must be in our storage unit. But glad I found it for you! Thanks for the effort, Bob! I know you'll go to great lengths to prove a point!
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Post by Mikie on Dec 6, 2023 11:07:47 GMT -5
Another fine foto of Brian - one of my all-time favorites! He was pissed because Landy forced him to get in the ocean with a surfboard, robe and all. Another Annie Leibovitz photo for the cover of Rolling Stone, Nov 4, 1976. "The Healing Of Brother Brian"
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Post by petsite on Dec 6, 2023 11:32:22 GMT -5
My wife was like WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? I knew I had seen it somewhere. My Rolling Stone must be in our storage unit. But glad I found it for you! Thanks for the effort, Bob! I know you'll go to great lengths to prove a point! I just thought it was funny. I hate it when you have that itch. I am helping out on the new documentary coming next year. They asked for something (can't go into what) and I was like I HAVE THAT! Yeah, 2 days later and little sleep, yeah I had that. It's called I HAVE TOO MUCH S**T! LMAO!!!
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Post by E on Dec 6, 2023 12:18:14 GMT -5
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Post by Mikie on Dec 6, 2023 13:07:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the effort, Bob! I know you'll go to great lengths to prove a point! I just thought it was funny. I hate it when you have that itch. I am helping out on the new documentary coming next year. They asked for something (can't go into what) and I was like I HAVE THAT! Yeah, 2 days later and little sleep, yeah I had that. It's called I HAVE TOO MUCH S**T! LMAO!!! What an honor to be asked for something from your collection. And maybe you'll see your name scrolling up the credits at the end of the documentary!
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Post by John Manning on Dec 6, 2023 13:14:58 GMT -5
I want Blondie’s T-shirt, please. In fact I’ll have several, so I can wear every day.
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Post by Mikie on Dec 6, 2023 13:37:00 GMT -5
Ed, don't remember seeing that picture of Dennis and Blondie before. You could buy Blondie's shirt at the Beach Boys concerts in '73 and '74, and maybe '75. I think I bought mine in '73 or '74, along with a concert booklet.
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Post by Micha on Dec 6, 2023 13:55:47 GMT -5
Brian's holding a mirror, not a framed photo of the group. It is a framed photo. I had this debate with a lot of others before. What finally clinched it for me? Shirts button with the button on the right and the holes on the left. If this was a mirror image, they would be reversed. They are not. Also, at the time, Carl parted his hair on the right, as it is in the photo.
Here it is reversed, with the buttons on the wrong side.
Yeah, but couldn't the WHOLE photo have been mirrored and Brian ist the reversed one? It seems like there is a reflection of his knee on whatever is in the frame. Edit: Should've read the whole thread before posting this...
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Post by E on Dec 6, 2023 14:56:02 GMT -5
Ed, don't remember seeing that picture of Dennis and Blondie before. You could buy Blondie's shirt at the Beach Boys concerts in '73 and '74, and maybe '75. I think I bought mine in '73 or '74, along with a concert booklet. I suspect swiped it from here - probably one Bob has posted in the past! But, yeah, I could do with one of those shirts too! I love Brian's look in this one:
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Post by Stephen W. Desper on Dec 6, 2023 16:07:38 GMT -5
If that pic was actually by Marilyn, than it's a strange act from Leibovitz to claim it's hers. Hey Santa! Welcome to the board! Yeah, I think you meant "Diane", not "Marilyn". And you're right about the photo credit! Comment: Yes, I've seen that credit to Leibovitz, but I was standing behind Diane when she took the photo with her Rollei Rolleiflex camera. That's the one you look down into the view-finder. Diane took many pictures of the band also. She is a camera buff. She may have just given credit to Leibovitz or handed her the film for developing. I don't know what the story is or much about the credit over the shot. Diane and Leibovitz were friends, so who knows what they worked out. I just know what I witnessed during our break from recording. Leibovitz took photos that afternoon that were staged settings. Diane's shot was more like, "Hey fellows, let me take a few shots too." for her personal use. Whatever, her photo captures something that everyone likes. It has lived on while the other professional photos have been ignored. I'm not going to get involved with another historical challenge. I was there and that is that as far as I'm concerned. You all can believe what you wish. ~swd
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Post by petsite on Dec 6, 2023 16:20:26 GMT -5
Ed, don't remember seeing that picture of Dennis and Blondie before. You could buy Blondie's shirt at the Beach Boys concerts in '73 and '74, and maybe '75. I think I bought mine in '73 or '74, along with a concert booklet. I suspect swiped it from here - probably one Bob has posted in the past! But, yeah, I could do with one of those shirts too! I love Brian's look in this one: Not from me. First time I have seen it. I want that shirt as well
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Post by AGD on Dec 6, 2023 16:22:52 GMT -5
I've never seen Alan looked so completely baked as he does here...
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