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Post by lonelysummer on Oct 6, 2023 21:34:43 GMT -5
Yeah, but did you get to see Jim Rockford? No, but I saw Jim RODFORD.
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Post by newbbfan on Oct 7, 2023 21:16:55 GMT -5
Perhaps the filmmakers had a real lid on this but I'm very surprised one doesn't see an Instagram post with something like, hey got to hang out with my cousin Brian, or got to hang out with Mike or got to hang out with Al and Dave and Bruce and, hey we like all got together at Paradise Cove.... with some still photos and other Instagram things like that.
Very interesting that this has been kept under such wraps in an era when there's so much communication and leak and sharing of events and activities. Maybe the filmmakers want this to be a surprise; on the other hand one would want as much publicity as possible and the idea that the Beach Boys got together at Paradise Cove is super big news Well at least for those who care.
Also I guess Al was not there that day that they did the photo shoot for surfer girl and Surfin safari. Also he missed the photo shoot for summer days and Summer Nights right? But in the first instance he wasn't formally part of the band at that time. Beach boy history, as clear as Summer Sun
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Post by AGD on Oct 8, 2023 0:19:12 GMT -5
Perhaps the filmmakers had a real lid on this but I'm very surprised one doesn't see an Instagram post with something like, hey got to hang out with my cousin Brian, or got to hang out with Mike or got to hang out with Al and Dave and Bruce and, hey we like all got together at Paradise Cove.... with some still photos and other Instagram things like that. Very interesting that this has been kept under such wraps in an era when there's so much communication and leak and sharing of events and activities. Maybe the filmmakers want this to be a surprise; on the other hand one would want as much publicity as possible and the idea that the Beach Boys got together at Paradise Cove is super big news Well at least for those who care. Also I guess Al was not there that day that they did the photo shoot for surfer girl and Surfin safari. Also he missed the photo shoot for summer days and Summer Nights right? But in the first instance he wasn't formally part of the band at that time. Beach boy history, as clear as Summer Sun It is indeed a puzzle that Alan "Loose Lips" Jardine hasn't said word one...
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Post by Sam_BFC on Oct 8, 2023 13:36:24 GMT -5
Alan Jardine did let it slip at the Clayton NY show.
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Post by newbbfan on Oct 8, 2023 14:20:13 GMT -5
Yes and from what Mike said it's clear that they got together I guess for an interview and a little bit of acapella singing but they did not actually do a performance, there so I guess we cannot expect to see a stage having been put up and a combined band ,or Dave on guitar or anything like we saw in the unplugged Rolling Stones sessions or in the opening of that appearance on the Jimmy Fallon show. I only hope that the conversation was meaningful and thoughtful and I'm betting that it was, and also that the acapella is more than just a couple of awkward bars together.
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Post by calicoskies on Oct 8, 2023 15:46:11 GMT -5
There's a radio interview from December 1971 in which he says he loves the Beach Boy's latest album (which in that case was "Surf's Up"). Do you have a link? Thanks! That should be somewhere in this interview for WCBS. we.tl/t-M3FinRAZJH
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Post by bd on Jan 30, 2024 23:59:19 GMT -5
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Post by jjack34 on Apr 4, 2024 7:31:12 GMT -5
These people obviously contact someone for all the film footage. Anyone know who to contact for the full unedited clips from 1965-67 beach boys? like the pet sounds promo film or making of oleary cow studio session and firestation portion.
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Post by AGD on Apr 4, 2024 15:56:28 GMT -5
The alleged Fire session footage from the 1985 video is nothing of the sort. For one thing, the studio is Western, not Gold Star.
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Post by lonelysummer on Apr 4, 2024 22:35:43 GMT -5
The alleged Fire session footage from the 1985 video is nothing of the sort. For one thing, the studio is Western, not Gild Star. So what are we looking at there? Why are some of the guys wearing firemen's hats?
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Post by AGD on Apr 5, 2024 0:51:27 GMT -5
No idea, but it's not the Fire session. Wrong studio, and the band weren't there on 11/28/66.
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Post by Autotune on Apr 5, 2024 5:53:57 GMT -5
No idea, but it's not the Fire session. Wrong studio, and the band weren't there on 11/28/66. Is there a chance that the fire in the bucket and helmet lore belongs to a session different to Mrs. O’Leary’s Cow recording and was mistakenly but understandably misplaced by early reporters?
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Post by AGD on Apr 5, 2024 11:46:14 GMT -5
No idea, but it's not the Fire session. Wrong studio, and the band weren't there on 11/28/66. Is there a chance that the fire in the bucket and helmet lore belongs to a session different to Mrs. O’Leary’s Cow recording and was mistakenly but understandably misplaced by early reporters? Nope. The main original source for the "Fire" session is Jules Siegel. He doesn't mention a bucket of fire but... "But walking into the control room with the answers to all questions such as this was Brian Wilson himself, wearing a competition-stripe surfer’s T-shirt, tight white duck pants, pale green bowling shoes and a red plastic fireman’s helmet. Everybody was wearing identical red plastic toy fireman’s helmets. Brian’s cousin and production assistant, Steve Korthoff was wearing one; his wife, Marilyn, and her sister, Diane Rovelle—Brian’s secretary—were also wearing them, and so was a once dignified writer from The Saturday Evening Post who had been following Brian around for two months [Siegel]. “Steve,” Brian called out, “where are the rest of those fire hats? I want everybody to wear fire hats. We’ve really got to get into this thing.” Out to the Rolls-Royce went Steve and within a few minutes all of the musicians were wearing fire hats, silly grins beginning to crack their professional dignity."
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Apr 5, 2024 12:43:00 GMT -5
You can hear the burning bucket of wood on the actual Fire track
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Post by AGD on Apr 5, 2024 14:17:29 GMT -5
You can hear the burning bucket of wood on the actual Fire track Not according to someone who was there: "For the next three hours, Brian Wilson recorded and re-recorded, take after take, changing the sound balance, adding echo, experimenting with a sound effects track of a real fire."
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Post by Autotune on Apr 5, 2024 20:19:59 GMT -5
So… helmets were worn for a few days other than the Fire session… Or used specifically for the taping of the available footage?
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Apr 5, 2024 20:51:16 GMT -5
You can hear the burning bucket of wood on the actual Fire track Not according to someone who was there: "For the next three hours, Brian Wilson recorded and re-recorded, take after take, changing the sound balance, adding echo, experimenting with a sound effects track of a real fire." OK? The sound effects completely isolated are literally on bootlegs.
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Post by Mikie on Apr 5, 2024 22:44:40 GMT -5
You can hear the burning bucket of wood on the actual Fire track Fire (Mrs. O'Leary's Cow). Musicians wore fire hats and for added effect, a bucket of burning wood was placed in the studio so that the area would smell of smoke. Was the crackling sound of fire actually from the burning wood or from somebody wrinkling shrink wrap or foil?
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Post by petsite on Apr 5, 2024 23:48:07 GMT -5
Hey, everyone. Sorry I haven't been posting. Been busy with family issues (my Mother-In-Law passed). Also, been busy helping Mr. Leaf with his book coming this fall and with the doc. We need to give this doc a chance. And no, I haven't seen it yet. Hoping to get an advance stream soon.
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Post by AGD on Apr 6, 2024 0:55:09 GMT -5
You can hear the burning bucket of wood on the actual Fire track Fire (Mrs. O'Leary's Cow). Musicians wore fire hats and for added effect, a bucket of burning wood was placed in the studio so that the area would smell of smoke. Was the crackling sound of fire actually from the burning wood or from somebody wrinkling shrink wrap or foil? I remember a quote about someone crinkling up Saran wrap for the fire fx. Don't recall who or where of course...
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Post by AGD on Apr 6, 2024 0:57:29 GMT -5
So… helmets were worn for a few days other than the Fire session… Or used specifically for the taping of the available footage? Someone here - Cam? Bob? - identified the German mag Carl is reading in that clip and IIC it was from 1967? I stand corrected: the October 10th 1966 edition of Bravo. But still... band are present, wrong studio, wrong engineer. That said, when I spoke with Chuck back in spring 1985 in Western 3 control room, he mentioned having a burning bucket specifically for a Fire session and how everyone got to letting off fire extinguishers. Wasn't until I was back in my hotel room several hours later that it dawned on me. Chuck did a Fire session, undocumented, at Western? Here's my best guess. The fire hats are left over from the filming of the "GV" promo on or before October 21st (they're the same ones, or the same make). The next documented Western session after that where the band could have been present was was the 11/16 "Vega-Tables" argument. More likely the 12/16 "H&V" session, or a vocal session in early January 1967. Honestly, I have no real idea.
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Post by Rick Bartlett on Apr 6, 2024 11:02:35 GMT -5
Around the 18 minute mark, Al tells about the end of the documentary where they all got together with an Acoustic Guitar and sang a few songs all together 'acapella' at Paradise Cove. He mentions 'Fun Fun' Fun' and 'Surfin Safari'.... Let's hope it makes the cut.
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Post by jjack34 on Apr 6, 2024 11:10:13 GMT -5
ok, but my actual question?
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Post by newbbfan on Apr 7, 2024 21:36:05 GMT -5
Well if I were that interviewer I would have said to al, okay so what exactly happened. Did you alone play the guitar? Did Dave also have a guitar? Dave is probably the superior guitarist between the two. Did you do full versions of each song and do you know whether they all will be conveyed to us in the actual documentary? Will there be some supplementary footage that has the entire performance? How did everyone sound? Was this like the other campfire scenes that you had done in the past? Who sang which parts on which song? Where you artistically satisfied with your performance on guitar and the vocal performance from the other Beach boys? And about 25 other related questions about specifically what happened.
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Post by Awesoman on Apr 8, 2024 7:59:18 GMT -5
Around the 18 minute mark, Al tells about the end of the documentary where they all got together with an Acoustic Guitar and sang a few songs all together 'acapella' at Paradise Cove. He mentions 'Fun Fun' Fun' and 'Surfin Safari'.... Let's hope it makes the cut. I wonder exactly when such a gathering would have occurred.
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