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Post by Mikie on Jul 13, 2020 20:49:32 GMT -5
As soon as Will and Alan stop exchanging vows and comparing notes on parting in their dorms, I'll slide my vote in here.
It was one of the cuts that I played a few times when cuing up MIU. It's a good cover sung by the guy waiting for a bus. Like the other cover on Side 1, Come Go With Me, this one is a "can't go wrong" song. A classic. This version is nothing special but not embarrassing either. Hard to beat Buddy's original. OK, L8r.
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Post by Al S on Jul 13, 2020 23:36:26 GMT -5
Well, Peggy Sue got 81% of us back on track, voting 6 and above!
3 - 1 vote 4 - 1 vote 5 - 1 vote 6 - 6 votes 7 - 6 votes 8 - 2 votes
One more until we flip the disc!
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Post by Al S on Jul 13, 2020 23:57:18 GMT -5
Wontcha Come Out Tonight - well, wontcha, punk?
Lovely little number by the Brian/Mike dynamic duo woulda got an 8 for me, but those come-come-a-come-a naff forced vox seem to have been left over from the ropeyer parts of 15 Big 'uns (That same song, A Casual Look) and mar an otherwise decent outing.
While Brian sounds like he's ready for bed, or has been in bed asleep for several hours, it's nice to hear him singing clearly and also LOW for him - I think this is lower than any of the gruff-tations of the past couple of years. Or perhaps it's an aural illusion caused by Mike singing like a lispy helium chugging soft-chicken in the verses proper.
On the positive side, musically, the style reminds me of the groovey Mamma Says, a song covered by Spring on their sole titular '72 offering, although Wontcha's arrangement and production is trying to pack in a LOT more.
I also like that the song builds steadily and the "of ways that I could spend all my nights with you" descent is pretty cool and neatly leads into an improved reprise of the intro.
7
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jul 14, 2020 0:12:42 GMT -5
My favorite song on side one. Don't get too excited, I'm only giving it a 7/10.
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Post by mfp on Jul 14, 2020 2:57:49 GMT -5
Lopes along smoothly with a dynamic tag.
8
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Post by E on Jul 14, 2020 3:06:19 GMT -5
The best weak track on the album. 6
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Post by jk on Jul 14, 2020 3:56:12 GMT -5
BB vocal backing noises are endlessly fascinating. Where do they come from? I reckon the "come-a come-a" in "Wontcha Come Out Tonight" (itself a line from The Four Seasons' "Sherry") come from either Jimmy Jones's "Handy Man" (possibly Del Shannon's cover) or, more likely, from Neil Sedaka's "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do" (in all three cases in the first few seconds).
"WCOT" is a little less well represented in the gonads department than the songs by Jimmy, Del and Neil (I'm beginning to sounds like Alan). But things could be worse.
Seven.
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Post by Autotune on Jul 14, 2020 6:18:30 GMT -5
A great tag that found its way into Mike Come Back to LA, Some of Your Love and Summer of Love. A nice verse with a smooth-sounding Brian. Took me some time to figure out who the hell was singing that. A nice lyric and Mike vocal (is it me, or Mike’s lyrics are wordier than usual on MIU?).
Alas, the sound and production don’t do the song any justice. Who the hell is singing the tag? Is that a stack-of-Als? The drums, usually a carefully equalized and arranged component of BB productions, sound lackluster and throwaway (what’s the deal with that hi-hat?!?!?), and the overall sound of the backing track is muddy and unremarkable.
8 for the song 4 for the production That’s a 6
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Post by Al S on Jul 14, 2020 6:36:05 GMT -5
BB vocal backing noises are endlessly fascinating. Where do they come from? I reckon the "come-a come-a" in "Wontcha Come Out Tonight" (itself a line from The Four Seasons' "Sherry") come from either Jimmy Jones's "Handy Man" (possibly Del Shannon's cover) or, more likely, from Neil Sedaka's "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do" (in all three cases in the first few seconds). "WCOT" is a little less well represented in the gonads department than the songs by Jimmy, Del and Neil (I'm beginning to sounds like Alan). But things could be worse. Seven. Nice one, you could be onto something there re the Four Seasons reference, JK, as the basic verse chords are very do-wop - G, Em, C, D (whatever key you prefer) - and we know the gang were/are massive suckers for the genre. Keep up the good work on the Alanisms, gonads department is a great effort, although, personally, I think the short-comings under scrutiny are more a matter for the Ministry of Cajones at large.
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Post by Al S on Jul 14, 2020 7:05:44 GMT -5
I'd even go as low as a five-point-five, over generously rounded to a six.
Had they ever performed this live before dredging it up for Christmas/MIU, or was it new to the band?
A quick run through Eric A's site gives me the impression that: - they hadn't gigged it before the MIU inclusion - PS was the only MIU track included at gigs around that time - it wasn't on the set-list for long
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Post by filledeplage on Jul 14, 2020 7:42:40 GMT -5
Sounds a little underwater...
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Post by dant on Jul 14, 2020 10:18:49 GMT -5
It’s an alright song. I will give it a 7. It seems a little bit basic to me, but it is ok.
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Post by jk on Jul 14, 2020 11:59:32 GMT -5
BB vocal backing noises are endlessly fascinating. Where do they come from? I reckon the "come-a come-a" in "Wontcha Come Out Tonight" (itself a line from The Four Seasons' "Sherry") come from either Jimmy Jones's "Handy Man" (possibly Del Shannon's cover) or, more likely, from Neil Sedaka's "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do" (in all three cases in the first few seconds). "WCOT" is a little less well represented in the gonads department than the songs by Jimmy, Del and Neil (I'm beginning to sounds like Alan). But things could be worse. Seven. Nice one, you could be onto something there re the Four Seasons reference, JK, as the basic verse chords are very do-wop - G, Em, C, D (whatever key you prefer) - and we know the gang were/are massive suckers for the genre. Keep up the good work on the Alanisms, gonads department is a great effort, although, personally, I think the short-comings under scrutiny are more a matter for the Ministry of Cajones at large. Ah, the Ministry of Cajones no less. Well, all tips gratefully accepted, A--I hope to make a better job of it next time. And for those unfamiliar with the Neil Sedaka song... "Sedaka is back!"
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jul 14, 2020 13:47:10 GMT -5
The best weak track on the album. 6 That's a great way to put it! I actually gave "Hey Little Tomboy" an 8/10, which I won't do for "Wontcha Come Out Tonight". The Mike vocal could be a lot better than it is... So, I guess "Hey Little Tomboy" is the real side one winner.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jul 14, 2020 14:24:31 GMT -5
Sounds a little underwater... That's because you have posted an alternate version that doesn't sound very good.
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Post by Al S on Jul 14, 2020 18:29:58 GMT -5
The best weak track on the album. 6 That's a great way to put it! I actually gave "Hey Little Tomboy" an 8/10, which I won't do for "Wontcha Come Out Tonight". The Mike vocal could be a lot better than it is... So, I guess "Hey Little Tomboy" is the real side one winner. LOL, guess again, feelsy, half time listening satisfaction results will be on display soon!
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Post by Mikie on Jul 14, 2020 19:47:23 GMT -5
Won'tcha Come Out Tonight. Well, maybe I'll come out now or maybe I won't. Maybe I'll just come out from living behind a rock. You watch - Mistah Smith'll have a field day with that one. This song and "Matchpoint Of Our Love" will remain the two mysteries in Beachboyland that have never been solved. Or maybe they've already been solved and I/we/us just don't know about it. Why did Brian's voice on the chorus's seem so clear? Especially clear compared to his raspy vocals on the three albums before? Were his overdubbed vocals messed with, synthesized, sped up and slowed down? Electronically enhanced? What? Shades of Winter Symphony from '74, four years prior. Anyway, the lyrics are banal, and I'd rather hear Brian's vocal than Mike's. I do like the descending line, "pretty please, baby, here's what I ask of you". Maybe the best part of the song, other than Brian's processed vocals.
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Post by Al S on Jul 14, 2020 19:56:06 GMT -5
Won'tcha Come Out Tonight. Well, maybe I'll come out now or maybe I won't. Maybe I'll just come out from living behind a rock. You watch - Mistah Smith'll have a field day with that one. This song and "Matchpoint Of Our Love" will remain the two mysteries in Beachboyland that have never been solved. Or maybe they've already been solved and I/we/us just don't know about it. Why did Brian's voice on the chorus's seem so clear? Especially clear compared to his raspy vocals on the three albums before? Were his overdubbed vocals messed with, synthesized, sped up and slowed down? Electronically enhanced? What? Shades of Winter Symphony from '74, four years prior. Anyway, the lyrics are banal, and I'd rather hear Brian's vocal than Mike's. I do like the descending line, "pretty please, baby, here's what I ask of you". Maybe the best part of the song, other than Brian's processed vocals. LOL, I ain't biting for fear of being the focus of a You Next internet campaign. And I don't even have a Twitter account. Now, Mikie, re Brian's voice - I recall an interview or article by some dude that finds him and a travelling buddy at Cedar Rapids Airport or something, they bump into Mike and ask if they can come to the sessions - Mike says yeah, but no smoking, as they've got Brian off the ciggies. I think. Anyway, perhaps that was the key element to the clear voice. Or Valium.
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Post by Mikie on Jul 14, 2020 20:27:06 GMT -5
Yeah, or maybe he was sucking helium just before takes. Not sure I buy the reduction of cigs theory though. I think the damage was already done. I mean, if he cut back dramatically days/weeks before these sessions, maybe that would help a little bit, but there was a drastic change here. And I think it was just temporary and his mid-70's vocals were back for awhile to stay. There were moments, though......
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Post by kds on Jul 14, 2020 22:12:46 GMT -5
7
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Post by Al S on Jul 15, 2020 1:03:47 GMT -5
Well, well, well - seems everyone thinks Wontcha Come Out tonight is...OK!, with most votes hovering in the middle scores, 83% voting 6 or above.
5 - 3 votes 6 - 3 votes 7 - 8 votes 8 - 4 votes
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Post by Al S on Jul 15, 2020 1:05:30 GMT -5
Time to flip the record and get cracking with side 2 of M.I.U. Album. But before we do, I thought you might be interested to see how we are feeling about "things" so far. I've grouped votes into 3 categories - 0-4 (indicating users who really really don't like the song), 5-7 (people kinda in the middle), 8-10 (voters who in the case of this album should know better). What I'm seeing is that this album is struggling to keep it's head above water and people are feeling pretty meh about it, the only real high point so far has been Come Go With Me! OUCH!
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Post by Al S on Jul 15, 2020 1:10:34 GMT -5
Today we discuss and Rate Sweet Sunday Kinda Love.
Yikes, I would never play this in the car; I doubt any lane warning indicators or smelling salts could revive me from instant coma.
A low 2 for the cute line about reading the funnies, noting the funnies were usually not.
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Post by mfp on Jul 15, 2020 4:17:13 GMT -5
Carl's laid-back vocal perfectly conveys the way I'd like to spend a Sunday, unplugging the phone and pretending nobody's home. Bliss!
There's plenty musically that catches my ear: the subtle organ and vibes, the hi-hat pattern and guitar stabs, the shift to a minor chord in the bridge which effortlessly resolves into the final verse, and the coda with those heavenly "sweet Sunday love" background vocals.
10
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Post by John Manning on Jul 15, 2020 4:43:10 GMT -5
Defo one of the album’s better tracks - I too love that idea of unplugging the phone and pretending nobody’s home. There are lots of great elements to the track though somehow the result is somewhat sappy.
But why was this band that had rocked out to tunes about the conquest of the plains, the appalling subjugation of native Americans, steamboats, astrology and astronomy, trending back towards this cosy girl/boy pap?
This end of the 1970s is the antithesis of how they started the decade. What a waste.
But, hey, an eight for a track on this album.
What a frikkin waste.
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