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Post by AGD on May 16, 2019 7:23:45 GMT -5
... an album was released that would substantially inform the direction of my life post 1975. I didn't know it at the time, of course, because I was only ten and barely interested in music at all.
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Post by filledeplage on May 16, 2019 7:36:27 GMT -5
... an album was released that would substantially inform the direction of my life post 1975. I didn't know it at the time, of course, because I was only ten and barely interested in music at all. You would not be alone. My first LP.  |
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Post by dauber on May 16, 2019 9:03:09 GMT -5
First heard it as a 15-year-old in the summer of 1990 as part of the So Tough twofer, borrowed from a public library. Didn't see what the fuss was. It bored me.
I gave it another chance as a 16-year-old on Christmas Eve 1990 when I got the CD as a present. I listened in the dark with headphones. I wanted to listen to it again immediately, but I was ready to fall asleep because it was so late. But that Christmas Eve listen shaped my life.
(For the record -- pun unintentional, but I'll take it -- I don't understand why everybody says the So Tough version is the definitive vinyl version. It's the second-worst-sounding one in my collection.)
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Post by Mikie on May 16, 2019 10:50:23 GMT -5
(For the record -- pun unintentional, but I'll take it -- I don't understand why everybody says the So Tough version is the definitive vinyl version. It's the second-worst-sounding one in my collection.)
Well........that's the way I've always heard it. The Pet Sounds vinyl packaged with Carl & The Passions - So Tough in 1972 is the preferred. Same with the 1974 Pet Sounds release with the brown cover. The one that says "This recording is pressed in monophonic sound, the way Brian cut it.” The one with the green Capitol label from 1980 sounds pretty good too. I've never really A-B'd them, and haven't played them in many years, but I know they sound damn good.
My understanding is that any Capitol record that says "MASTERED BY CAPITOL" in the lead out groove sounds better than a 60's or early 70's record on Capitol. Wally Traugott was involved during this time.
Anyway, I bought my first Pet Sounds album used at a flea market for $2.00 around 1973, packaged with the aforementioned Carl & The Passions album. Was a little confused at first by the different faces and voices between the two albums, then realized which one was recorded six years prior to the newer one. Back then, I'd play Pet Sounds with the headphones on in the dark at night in my room. 'Caroline No' played; dogs barked, the train went by, and the tone arm would lift off the record and it was nite nite time.
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Post by kds on May 16, 2019 11:19:30 GMT -5
I first listened to Pet Sounds in the summer of 2006, when the album was 40 years old. I was starting to show interest in The Beach Boys. So, I bought a copy of Sounds of Summer, and figured I'd buy Pet Sounds too since it was deemed an essential album. To be honest, on first listen, it didn't speak to me.
It took probably until around 2010 or so for me to start to appreciate the album. By the time I saw the C50 show in 2012, I was all in of PS.
I do remember back in 2006, while shopping at a local record store, I saw a flyer for Brian Wilson featuring Al Jardine performing Pet Sounds in DC. I didn't go, since I wasn't really gaga about the album yet. Of course, I got another shot ten years later.
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Post by Al S on May 18, 2019 19:08:08 GMT -5
(For the record -- pun unintentional, but I'll take it -- I don't understand why everybody says the So Tough version is the definitive vinyl version. It's the second-worst-sounding one in my collection.)
Well........that's the way I've always heard it. The Pet Sounds vinyl packaged with Carl & The Passions - So Tough in 1972 is the preferred. Same with the 1974 Pet Sounds release with the brown cover. The one that says "This recording is pressed in monophonic sound, the way Brian cut it.” The one with the green Capitol label from 1980 sounds pretty good too. I've never really A-B'd them, and haven't played them in many years, but I know they sound damn good.
My understanding is that any Capitol record that says "MASTERED BY CAPITOL" in the lead out groove sounds better than a 60's or early 70's record on Capitol. Wally Traugott was involved during this time.
Anyway, I bought my first Pet Sounds album used at a flea market for $2.00 around 1973, packaged with the aforementioned Carl & The Passions album. Was a little confused at first by the different faces and voices between the two albums, then realized which one was recorded six months prior to the newer one. Back then, I'd play Pet Sounds with the headphones on in the dark at night in my room. 'Caroline No' played; dogs barked, the train went by, and the tone arm would lift off the record and it was nite nite time.
6 months! Crikey, didn’t know they slipped one in twixt PS and old Dumb Angel! |
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Post by Al S on May 18, 2019 19:14:31 GMT -5
Around ‘81, maybe ‘82, I finally got a hold of PS as part of a vinyl gatefold twofer with Smiley Smile.
I had heard several tracks (WIBN, GOK, Sloop) via some Greatest hits comp and read the critical hype and legend status via the trade mags or A-Z encyclopedia of Rock music in the school library.
I admit to being a little underwhelmed on playback - it didn’t grip me in the way I expected. At first. And then...
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Post by Al S on May 18, 2019 19:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by Mikie on May 18, 2019 19:28:21 GMT -5
Well........that's the way I've always heard it. The Pet Sounds vinyl packaged with Carl & The Passions - So Tough in 1972 is the preferred. Same with the 1974 Pet Sounds release with the brown cover. The one that says "This recording is pressed in monophonic sound, the way Brian cut it.” The one with the green Capitol label from 1980 sounds pretty good too. I've never really A-B'd them, and haven't played them in many years, but I know they sound damn good.
My understanding is that any Capitol record that says "MASTERED BY CAPITOL" in the lead out groove sounds better than a 60's or early 70's record on Capitol. Wally Traugott was involved during this time.
Anyway, I bought my first Pet Sounds album used at a flea market for $2.00 around 1973, packaged with the aforementioned Carl & The Passions album. Was a little confused at first by the different faces and voices between the two albums, then realized which one was recorded six months prior to the newer one. Back then, I'd play Pet Sounds with the headphones on in the dark at night in my room. 'Caroline No' played; dogs barked, the train went by, and the tone arm would lift off the record and it was nite nite time.
6 months! Crikey, didn’t know they slipped one in twixt PS and old Dumb Angel! Geez, that sat there for two days and you're the only one who saw it. Thanks for not skippin' over my posts, Al. I could post any ol' s**t on here and nobody'd notice.  |
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Post by Al S on May 18, 2019 19:30:30 GMT -5
(For the record -- pun unintentional, but I'll take it -- I don't understand why everybody says the So Tough version is the definitive vinyl version. It's the second-worst-sounding one in my collection.)
Well........that's the way I've always heard it. The Pet Sounds vinyl packaged with Carl & The Passions - So Tough in 1972 is the preferred. Same with the 1974 Pet Sounds release with the brown cover. The one that says "This recording is pressed in monophonic sound, the way Brian cut it.” The one with the green Capitol label from 1980 sounds pretty good too. I've never really A-B'd them, and haven't played them in many years, but I know they sound damn good.
My understanding is that any Capitol record that says "MASTERED BY CAPITOL" in the lead out groove sounds better than a 60's or early 70's record on Capitol. Wally Traugott was involved during this time.
Anyway, I bought my first Pet Sounds album used at a flea market for $2.00 around 1973, packaged with the aforementioned Carl & The Passions album. Was a little confused at first by the different faces and voices between the two albums, then realized which one was recorded six months prior to the newer one. Back then, I'd play Pet Sounds with the headphones on in the dark at night in my room. 'Caroline No' played; dogs barked, the train went by, and the tone arm would lift off the record and it was nite nite time.
The ‘72 and ‘80 reissue sound better than the ‘66 pressings (IMO) because the 66 pressings had a significant amount of low frequency cut (ie bass), for various reasons including stopping peeps cheap tone arms from jumping outa the grooves, and to be aimed towards AM radio play back. ’72 had some modern eq’ing applied - I’m guessing extended highs and lows to get an FM radio friendly sound, and to sound akin to modern recording techniques. Sounds kinda brittle to me, same again for the ‘80s green label; a shame as from my understanding, the ‘80s green was possibly the last time the original album master was intact. Ultimately, if I were starting out today, I’d exclusively get the recent 45rpm Analogue Productions vinyl of the stereo mix - even though I’m for mono over stereo, it’s one of the most pleasureable and revelatory BB or PS listening experiences I’ve had. |
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on May 18, 2019 19:46:50 GMT -5
I heard Pet Sounds within weeks of release, when I was 8 years old. My brother's friend brought it over to the house for a listen. I remember my brother being underwhelmed by it, still is. Of course, he likes Wouldn't It Be Nice, God Only Knows & Sloop John B, but that is about it. I don't think he bought another Beach Boys album until 15 Big Ones. Me, on the other hand loved it. A kid! To this day, Wouldn't It Be Nice is still my favorite Beach Boys song. My other favorites are That's Not Me, I'm Waiting For The Day and especially I Just Wasn't Made For These Times. I turned to this song a lot as a teenager. I'm betting it is a song that most of us related to growing up and finding our place in this world.
Happy 53rd Anniversary, Pet Sounds!
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Post by craigslowinski on May 19, 2019 9:39:58 GMT -5
Around ‘81, maybe ‘82, I finally got a hold of PS as part of a vinyl gatefold twofer with Smiley Smile. I had heard several tracks (WIBN, GOK, Sloop) via some Greatest hits comp and read the critical hype and legend status via the trade mags or A-Z encyclopedia of Rock music in the school library. I admit to being a little underwhelmed on playback - it didn’t grip me in the way I expected. At first. And then... PS was packaged with SS ? ? ? ? |
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Post by Mikie on May 19, 2019 10:13:37 GMT -5
Around ‘81, maybe ‘82, I finally got a hold of PS as part of a vinyl gatefold twofer with Smiley Smile. I had heard several tracks (WIBN, GOK, Sloop) via some Greatest hits comp and read the critical hype and legend status via the trade mags or A-Z encyclopedia of Rock music in the school library. I admit to being a little underwhelmed on playback - it didn’t grip me in the way I expected. At first. And then... PS was packaged with SS ? ? ? ? I see two versions here - one out of Germany and the other Australia. www.discogs.com/Beach-Boys-Pet-Sounds-Smiley-Smile/master/1029877 |
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Post by craigslowinski on May 19, 2019 10:36:13 GMT -5
Hmmm...appears to be the duophonic "mix". |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 11:34:56 GMT -5
Believe it or don't, I've never heard PS on vinyl. Some fan I am! I first heard PS on the '90 cd release, two or three years after it came out. I was working my way through the twofers and wanted to purchase them in chronological order. I was still a fairly casual fan at this point, so I really didn't know much about PS beyond the "big 4" songs. Right off, I was disappointed that Good Vibes wasn't on there. And just like the previous three albums, no stereo? Yeah, that's how in the dark I was! On first listen I was underwhelmed. Like another poster mentioned, I was wondering what all the fuss was about. I quietly put the cd away, pulling it out once in awhile when I felt like giving it another chance. Meanwhile I continued on with the twofers. Oh.... there's GV, on this weird album called.... Smiley Smile? 
So when the PS box came out I was intrigued a little bit, but I passed, figuring if the album itself doesn't do anything for me, why fork out for this set? When the first standalone stereo cd came out in '99, I picked it up, thinking maybe the stereo mix might help me appreciate it a little more. It did. Actually I came to appreciate it a great deal more. It became my headphones at night album. That rountine began because I had a roommate who didn't care to hear me crank Beach Boys music over the speakers. Before long I realized these night time listens had a comforting affect and usually helped me to sleep better. That was a very good thing as this was a tough time in my life, having just gone through a divorce and uprooting my life. To this day PS is one of my all time favorite albums. It just took me several years to "get it". |
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Post by Mikie on May 19, 2019 12:34:07 GMT -5
I first started hearing Pet Sounds tracks in stereo in 1996 and have never looked back. The stereo version of Pet Sounds is the go-to CD for me when I want to listen to the whole album (including bonus tracks). The stereo mix just opens up and expands the music for a much better aural listening experience for me.
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Post by Fall Breaks on May 19, 2019 13:10:29 GMT -5
I sense a stereo vs mono discussion coming up again! For me, I always listen to the mono version. No exceptions. That's how I first heard it circa 1996 and that's how I prefer to listen to it to this day. The stereo version was interesting in that it in its spaciness allowed for more recognization of individual instruments, but I like my Pet Sounds fat and compact.
But I love the vocals only CD from the box set.
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on May 19, 2019 15:31:46 GMT -5
I like the stereo mix, the way Mark cut it and Brian supervised it. It makes it more a Beach Boys album with their background vocals more clearer in the mix.
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Post by craigslowinski on May 19, 2019 15:53:20 GMT -5
This morning, I listened to the whole album for the first time in a few months. I played Disc One from the 50th anniversary coffee table book-size release. That disc's program starts with the 1972 Carl-supervised remastering, followed by the stereo mix with restored "WIBN" bridge. On my BluRay player through my really nice Bose speakers, both mixes sounded phenomenal! I think that's the way to hear the original mono mix - nice and fat sounding (although the '96 remaster from the box set is a close second). And, to the point made above, it is also nice to open it up by listening to the stereo version now and then. The whole album is just so amazing, and as I think Carl once put it, just full of music!
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Post by Al S on May 19, 2019 17:07:36 GMT -5
I first started hearing Pet Sounds tracks in stereo in 1996 and have never looked back. The stereo version of Pet Sounds is the go-to CD for me when I want to listen to the whole album (including bonus tracks). The stereo mix just opens up and expands the music for a much better aural listening experience for me.  |
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Post by Mikie on May 19, 2019 19:35:22 GMT -5
I first started hearing Pet Sounds tracks in stereo in 1996 and have never looked back. The stereo version of Pet Sounds is the go-to CD for me when I want to listen to the whole album (including bonus tracks). The stereo mix just opens up and expands the music for a much better aural listening experience for me. I was thinking of you when I wrote that, Aussie Alan!  |
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Post by Mikie on May 19, 2019 19:40:26 GMT -5
But I love the vocals only CD from the box set. Yes! The instruments-only are also a lot of fun to listen to, but the vocals-only disc sends me through the rafters. Just fantastic. Listening to the instruments/vocals only just makes you appreciate all the creativeness and work that went into the album even more. |
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Post by craigslowinski on May 19, 2019 20:35:18 GMT -5
But I love the vocals only CD from the box set. Yes! The instruments-only are also a lot of fun to listen to, but the vocals-only disc sends me through the rafters. Just fantastic. Listening to the instruments/vocals only just makes you appreciate all the creativeness and work that went into the album even more. All composed & arranged by a self-taught 23-year old kid in a whirlwind of creative frenzy.... |
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Post by filledeplage on May 20, 2019 8:13:29 GMT -5
But I love the vocals only CD from the box set. Yes! The instruments-only are also a lot of fun to listen to, but the vocals-only disc sends me through the rafters. Just fantastic. Listening to the instruments/vocals only just makes you appreciate all the creativeness and work that went into the album even more. Love the sessions and it does make you appreciate how the puzzle was assembled - Trombone Dixie! |
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Post by Micha on Jun 16, 2019 6:25:09 GMT -5
I first started hearing Pet Sounds tracks in stereo in 1996 and have never looked back. The stereo version of Pet Sounds is the go-to CD for me when I want to listen to the whole album (including bonus tracks). The stereo mix just opens up and expands the music for a much better aural listening experience for me.
Me, I get the most emotional experience when both my ears hear the same signal. I really feel the music then. When I hear stereo it's rather: "Oh... that instrument's there and that one's over there...... interesting." Mostly intellectual. Of course, that's just me and not what everybody should feel like.
Believe it or don't, I've never heard PS on vinyl. Some fan I am! The tag to God Only Knows in mono on vinyl is so beautiful it actually hurts. |
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