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Post by John Manning on Apr 13, 2019 10:17:17 GMT -5
Anyone bought/played/heard this yet? Am itching to hear it but am travelling north to remostest off-grid land and won’t get chance – would love to read reviews!
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Post by glenhb on Apr 13, 2019 12:10:24 GMT -5
My son got me one but I'm not seeing him until the end of April to collect it ☹️
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Post by Al S on Apr 13, 2019 16:11:01 GMT -5
Anyone bought/played/heard this yet? Am itching to hear it but am travelling north to remostest off-grid land and won’t get chance – would love to read reviews! Off to Newcastle?
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Post by AGD on Apr 13, 2019 16:57:04 GMT -5
Just got home, first listen, first impression.
I hate it. Or rather, I hate what May & Taylor have done to a perfectly good song. I can understand why this was kept in the can for so long: the pity is it wasn't left there.
YMM, of course, V.
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Post by Mikie on Apr 13, 2019 17:30:10 GMT -5
It's a real good song. Taylor Hawkins did a great job on it. Too bad Dennis didn't finish it and park it on POB. 'Course I feel the same way about 'Tug Of Love' and the later version of 'Only With You'.
This version? I like it. I don't think they butchered it. Brian May's solo and the vocals are just fine.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 22:21:21 GMT -5
Hey Everyone--
First, even when "Holy Man" was included back with the POB/Bambu CD pack some years ago, I always thought it was an "ok" song, but at the same time,
I felt that it wasn't one of the strongest, even with the lyrics being sung by Taylor Hawkins.
Now this version comes along, after all of the hype, and well, it's ok, and I do love that Brian May & Roger Taylor loved POB, and were happy to contribute to this song, but their overdubs don't make the song that much better. It still sounds like the same song. Doesn't embellish it much at all in my opinion.
One friend, who wrote to me after hearing it today says, "It may have helped the POB/Bambu CD pack sell a few more copies if it had been included on the POB/Bambu CD because of the QUEEN connection, but other than that....not really that much better than before."
After all of the hype the last couple of months about it being released....I find it falls somewhat short. I also tend to think that Dennis' emotional voice singing the lead, may have added a bit more, but I also think he probably knew it wasn't that great a song, and perhaps consciously chose not to finish it. Who knows.
I give this new version about a 5.5 out of 10....compared to the original Taylor Hawkins issue about a 4.5 out of 10.
Dogbone
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Post by Malc on Apr 14, 2019 3:12:21 GMT -5
Hmmmm... first thought...if I'd wanted to hear a guitar solo like that I'd have purchased an Aerosmith album. Just didn't... feel... right
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Post by E on Apr 14, 2019 3:26:16 GMT -5
Anyone bought/played/heard this yet? Am itching to hear it but am travelling north to remostest off-grid land and won’t get chance – would love to read reviews! Off to Newcastle? Cheeky bugger.
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Post by PetSmile on Apr 14, 2019 16:31:09 GMT -5
If anyone has this, feel free to whip it through. Been waiting for this bugger a while, but don't have a turntable 'n that.
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Post by jay on Apr 15, 2019 0:04:32 GMT -5
Just got home, first listen, first impression. I hate it. Or rather, I hate what May & Taylor have done to a perfectly good song. I can understand why this was kept in the can for so long: the pity is it wasn't left there. YMM, of course, V. I think I'm more offended that Brian May was given a writing credit.
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Post by Emdeeh on Apr 15, 2019 15:22:41 GMT -5
I found one copy left today at a local record shop. (I was out of town and nowhere near any record stores on Saturday.) Now I have to find some way to play this thing, since the turntable is buried under other stuff. But at least I have it!
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Post by lonesurf on Apr 17, 2019 9:54:49 GMT -5
I finally listened to it.
I'm a Queen fan, but I don't just don't enjoy the May & Taylor additions. Definitely a case of less is more for me. A bit disappointed, but always good to see Dennis get some attention.
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Post by E on Apr 17, 2019 11:16:15 GMT -5
Just got home, first listen, first impression. I hate it. Or rather, I hate what May & Taylor have done to a perfectly good song. I can understand why this was kept in the can for so long: the pity is it wasn't left there. YMM, of course, V. I think I'm more offended that Brian May was given a writing credit. He wrote the dit-dit-dits...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 23:55:49 GMT -5
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Post by kirkk on Apr 19, 2019 0:32:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately it doesn’t play for me saying I have to be a member of YouTube premium. BUT, more importantly, is that awful Print Shop Deluxe-looking cover the ACTUAL cover?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 1:33:32 GMT -5
Andrew made the right call. I hate it as well. They took something beautiful and made it tacky and cheesy. Guitar is bloody awful as is the ‘harmonising’.
The Taylor Hawkins version previously released with the deluxe POB CD shows that you can tastefully and respectfully ‘complete’ an unfinished song by a revered and deceased artist, though I still prefer to listen to the original without his vocal track. This version shows that you can also crap all over something that you should’ve left well alone if you had no understanding of the beautiful spiritual celestial vibe of the original song.
Yuck
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Post by jay on Apr 19, 2019 1:40:24 GMT -5
I initially hated it. I still don't like it much, but not quite as much as I did. Brian May is a good guitar player(and underrated), but he overplays here. As for the backing vocals, they are pretty, but if they(whoever they are) were going for a Beach Boys sound, it might as well have been done by the real deal on TWGMTR.
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Post by E on Apr 19, 2019 3:36:06 GMT -5
I initially hated it. I still don't like it much, but not quite as much as I did. Brian May is a good guitar player(and underrated), but he overplays here. As for the backing vocals, they are pretty, but if they(whoever they are) were going for a Beach Boys sound, it might as well have been done by the real deal on TWGMTR. Oh yes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 5:55:05 GMT -5
Unfortunately it doesn’t play for me saying I have to be a member of YouTube premium. BUT, more importantly, is that awful Print Shop Deluxe-looking cover the ACTUAL cover? Try this one (You must be able to listen to the full thing on the browser by clicking the Spotify logo on the upper right corner, without any subscription):
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Post by George Faulkner on Apr 19, 2019 9:29:50 GMT -5
It's been released digitally. Just gave it a quick listen and I gotta say I kinda like it.
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Post by kirkk on Apr 19, 2019 9:32:30 GMT -5
Unfortunately it doesn’t play for me saying I have to be a member of YouTube premium. BUT, more importantly, is that awful Print Shop Deluxe-looking cover the ACTUAL cover? Try this one (You must be able to listen to the full thing on the browser by clicking the Spotify logo on the upper right corner, without any subscription): Thanks! Can't say I think they improved it (guitar noodling like that rarely helps a song, but that's just my preference...) but if some folks like it, cool. I can still listen to the other two non-Queen versions happily enough.
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Post by seagullmerlin on Apr 19, 2019 9:36:36 GMT -5
I just feel like the solo, although well done was a bit too over the top for the song the harmonies in some places were nice. Might combine the other Taylor Hawkins version with this one to make one more faithful but still has the harmonies during the chorus
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Post by craigslowinski on Apr 19, 2019 10:37:17 GMT -5
Personally, after years of hearing about how awful it was, I was prepared to dislike it intensely. But upon actually hearing it, I kinda like it. Remember, Dennis had intended for the Double Rock Baptist Choir to sing on it, so Taylor's version - simple and beautiful as it is - always felt to me like it was still missing its full potential. Yeah, I know - with Dennis gone, we can't say it could ever be exactly as he intended, but I gotta say, the addition of the "Queen choir" has filled it out and made it closer, I believe, to what he intended. And it doesn't sound "too Queen-like" to me...maybe because Freddy's trademark, distinctive voice is not on it. The guitar solos, however? I could live without them. I think Carl's original solo fits better.
Lastly, I thought folks might enjoy re-reading what Brian May posted on his website back in '08 about the creative process he went through in realizing this version:
"Well, since many people have been asking, and the word seems to be out there ....
I got inspired when Taylor sent me the track in its raw state, with a really soulful vocal from Taylor. It was a song which Dennis Wilson had begun, shortly before he died, but never finished. Beautiful piano playing, wonderful spiritual feel. The producers of the new Dennis Wilson release had asked Taylor Hawkins to sing on the track, and, by instinctive 'feel', finish the song. He had done an amazing job. Taylor had a feeling we could contribute, so he sent me a ProTools session of it. If you were a fan of the Beach Boys, you'll remember Dennis was not known as the principal songwriter, and was regarded by many as just a band member who was carried along. But, of all of the band, it was only Dennis who actually led the life of a surfer, and as time went on, it became obvious that he had a lot to say. He came into his own as a writer, and is now regarded by many as truly at the heart of what the Beach Boys were, and are, in the history of Rock.
So the track arrived, and I was moved ... so much so, that it hadn't even got to the end of the first playing before I was down in the studio, playing along ... inspired. I plunged in, and did a kind of resculpting, about three days work, as perhaps you'll eventually hear - and sent back a rough mix of what I'd done. It involved mapping and singing some backing vocals for the lead vocal to bounce off, building the rhythm track with guitars, and playing a solo. I then extended the song a little, to try to make the point a little stronger, and made an ending which resolved to something very much like the opening of the track - just subtly changed. The whole track spoke to me like a poem, and seemed to be steeped in the spirit of this mysterious man, the Beach Boy Who Surfed. And I wanted to do my bit to realise it to the full. Taylor was hugely enthusiastic, and we then asked Roger to add his magic. Roger loved it too, added his voice to the harmonies, and did some nice percussion, so the whole thing now had a subtle Queen overtone. We all loved the track - and hoped that we would see it on the Dennis album.
Sadly, we then found out that the producers of the album had gone ahead and compiled the album without waiting for us. I think there is some plan to issue it as a download, but obviously, having put so much love into it, we were a little disappointed, Taylor and Roger and me.
But such is life. It was still a nice experience doing it. Those moments are precious, and it's a fact of life that they don't always lead to something commercially successful, or even get heard. It's the moments of creative joy which matter ... and, in a way, this brought us closer to Taylor. And maybe there will yet be a good outcome."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 20:58:21 GMT -5
OK..here's a rumour that's floating around...
I've been told that it's being said there's a BLUE VINYL version of the RSD 7" single of "Holy Man"...with DW and QUEEN.
Anyone seen or heard of a copy?
I doubt it....but prove me wrong!
Thanks,
Dogbone
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Post by Generation42 on Apr 20, 2019 10:38:46 GMT -5
Finally heard the new cut. I'm going to be polite and just say that it is not to my liking.
Give me the original Taylor vox version or the instrumental, thank you very much. I find both of them to be lovely and moving.
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