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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 13:38:49 GMT -5
I stole this idea from SmileySmile because I think it's a nice idea. I know sometimes people don't get along, either due to genuine personality-clashes or misunderstanding on the internet. And I know things get out of hand when you respond in the moment and/or don't want to back down. And I'm def a part of all that. So I would like to start a nicer thread where everybody just says something nice. Preferably about other posters in the BB online fan community--whether they post here specifically or not. But also it could just be about anything.
I'll start with a few things I'd like to say. If I didn't mention you please don't take it personally, there's just a lot of people out there to give a shoutout to and you just got lost in the shuffle. But I would like to thank everyone for years of thought-provoking discussion.
Andersson—I was really mad at you because I put a lot of time into making interesting material for the PSF to try to get it an audience. And when you deleted the forum, that meant all the time I'd spent doing that was a waste and some of my posts were lost forever. I made my misgivings known in public. But I've been thinking about it these last few days and I know what it feels like to get so upset/just done with shit that you want to just delete everything and walk away. For me in the past that's meant deleting an account, but I didn't have control of a forum at my fingertips. It's conceivable if I had that I would have done what you did. So, I'm sorry for not trying harder to understand where you might have been coming from. I always liked your posts on PSF and I would like to see you back here.
Cap'n—I think you're one of the most well-read and even-tempered posters I've seen on either of the forums and I appreciate having at least one person on the political subforums who's interested in even-handed discussion. Also, I really appreciated the VU playlist you made for my benefit.
hawaii—I always thought your "hellos" on the shoutbox were cute and was really sad to see you leave. I hope you'll rejoin the community some day.
doobidoo, catbirdman, treatzapiza, Sheriff John Stone, sbonilla, BE—thank you all for the kind words about my writing and/or posts. It really meant a lot to me and renewed my confidence after I began seriously doubting myself.
Billy—You're a great mod and an even better person. I wish you luck on your journey, however you choose to follow through with things. You don't deserve what you've had to deal with lately.
Leetwall31—I was very sad to see you go, and I really appreciate you providing a list of key signatures for all the SMiLE tracks. Your idea for a SmiLE mix was fascinating, one of the most creative formats I'd EVER heard of (and I've listened to over a dozen and a half mixes at least). I really wanted to hear it when you were done, and I hope someday I still might get that opportunity.
kds, Dickrising, Cincinnati Kid, anyone else I forgot—Thanks for the new music recommendations. I'd like to check them out in the next few days/weeks.
Guitarfool—It sucks things ended up getting acrimonious between us because I really enjoyed our one on one discussions of SMiLE and the Psychedelic Sounds sessions. I was indeed Zenobia, but I did not create that account to make a parting shot, I did it because the Mujan name came with a lot of baggage at that point (I feel like it still does, honestly) and I was hoping to get out from under it. In hindsight that was far from a wise course of action.
saltymarshmallow—You are really knowledgeable about SmiLE and I appreciate hearing what you have to say about it. I haven't been on the discord much but my first time, talking about it with you was awesome.
Wata—You are pretty much the most chill, goodnatured person on any of the forums.
Cam—Your specific ideas for a two-sided Heroes single is one of the more interesting SmiLE theories I've seen.
AGD—When I was just starting out on SS, you were very nice to me from the beginning in Pms and stuff, and I always really appreciated it. I also greatly respect the fact that you were the only other person (at least that I can recall) willing to call out Daro to his “face” as opposed to sucking up and only criticize him after the fact.
Mikie—I really appreciate your offering to help track down my lost essays from the PSF.
Filled—I do think it's nice the way you wish people a happy birthday on the shoutbox. Also, I know for my part I've said things on the forums which I sincerely intended as goodnatured jokes/ribbing which another person would then take offense to and blow way out of proportion. I will concede it's possible that some of your comments towards me might not have been intended to be as hurtful as they felt on my end.
Beach Boys Fan—You are blunt and I can see how people take you the wrong way. But you speak your mind even if it's not popular and I respect that. After talking to you more, I think you're very nice and genuinely well-intentioned. You don't deserve anywhere near the amount of flak I see you get sometimes.
Last but certainly not least, jk. Getting to be your friend over this past year has been a wonderful experience. You're a great guy and our correspondences are the best thing that's happened to me in my time as part of the online Beach Boys community.
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Post by filledeplage on Mar 12, 2019 13:48:10 GMT -5
Mujan - any comments I make, are made with the intent to be neutral and only discuss the issues. Especially those concerning the law or politics. It is not ever personal and should not be taken that way.
And, thank you for your kind words.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 13:50:53 GMT -5
I made this awhile ago, with the intention of posting it after my new Wordpress blog was up (cuz at that point I probably wouldn't have time to post so much anymore) but since Im probably gonna walk away now I thought this was a good last post to end on. If you're interested in keeping in touch, any of you, or checking out my blog (which will have expanded dialogues about some of the things I've talked about on the forum) you can hit me up on my YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCL472HqGN8Qp5zZ8yzmrX8Q or my LostMediaWiki account: forums.lostmediawiki.com/user/655. I'm also Julia on SS. |
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Post by kds on Mar 12, 2019 13:52:58 GMT -5
kds, Dickrising, Cincinnati Kid, anyone else I forgot—Thanks for the new music recommendations. I'd like to check them out in the next few days/weeks. No problem. I hope you've found a couple things you liked. Also, please know that my preference for David Gilmour over Syd Barrett doesn't mean I don't appreciate Syd's contributions to the group, as I realize sometimes it comes across that way. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 15:38:19 GMT -5
Also, please know that my preference for David Gilmour over Syd Barrett doesn't mean I don't appreciate Syd's contributions to the group, as I realize sometimes it comes across that way. That's a lovely thing to say, kds.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 16:26:35 GMT -5
Very sad to see you go, Cassandra.
I'm really going to miss you round these parts. The lights at this particular party are going to be just that little bit dimmer from now on...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 16:36:07 GMT -5
Very sad to see you go, Cassandra. I'm really going to miss you round these parts. The lights at this particular party are going to be just that little bit dimmer from now on... Thanks John.  |
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Post by Cam Mott on Mar 13, 2019 6:52:11 GMT -5
Thanks. I flatter myself that it is more corroboration of eye witness testimony than theory.
I don't know what is going on but I hope patience, understanding, and tolerance in all directions allow you to hang around.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 10:43:43 GMT -5
I don't know what is going on but I hope patience, understanding, and tolerance in all directions allow you to hang around. Cassandra (iluvleniloud) has left (see her signature). Expect a more detailed explanation (by her, passed on by me) later in the day. |
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Post by E on Mar 13, 2019 11:43:54 GMT -5
Do you think it's for good this time?
Maybe we can have a sensible discussion about Surf's Up now.
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Post by Cam Mott on Mar 13, 2019 11:50:52 GMT -5
I don't know what is going on but I hope patience, understanding, and tolerance in all directions allow you to hang around. Cassandra (iluvleniloud) has left (see her signature). Expect a more detailed explanation (by her, passed on by me) later in the day. Had trouble scrolling it with my phone but I get the gist I think and my point is still that patience, understanding, and tolerance is a two way street. Too bad we didn't get the chance to get there. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 11:52:02 GMT -5
Cassandra (iluvleniloud) has left (see her signature). Expect a more detailed explanation (by her, passed on by me) later in the day. Had trouble scrolling it with my phone but I get the gist I think and my point is still that patience, understanding, and tolerance is a two way street. Too bad we didn't get the chance to get there. Indeed. There will no further explanation, on reflection. Enough has been said already. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 11:54:15 GMT -5
Do you think it's for good this time? Maybe we can have a sensible discussion about Surf's Up now. That was below the belt, sir. I didn't expect that of you. Yes, it's for good, unless Mikie steps down. |
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Post by E on Mar 13, 2019 13:27:27 GMT -5
Let me put it succinctly. We can have a discussion of Surf's Up where someone can have an opinion that isn't in keeping with hers; feel free to disagree but what she does is exactly what she accuses FDP of doing in other threads: steamroll anybody who thinks different. The more words the better. I don't mind if someone disagrees with my opinion, it's the fact it goes on and on. The very fact you responded to my post in the manner you did would suggest that this is something you've recognised.
I have no idea what Mikie said because I wasn't looking at the board at the time and I sure as hell can't read his mind as to whether or not he meant it. I do take exception to using a signature to have a pop at him, however. Had I been mod, I would have killed the political discussions. The Hoffman board rolls better without them. This isn't because I disagree with Mujan on politics (largely, I don't), but because reams and reams (and reams and reams...) of the same back and forth become tiresome. Make your own board for that.
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Mar 13, 2019 14:12:30 GMT -5
Do you think it's for good this time? Maybe we can have a sensible discussion about Surf's Up now. That was below the belt, sir. I didn't expect that of you. Yes, it's for good, unless Mikie steps down. Then I guess she is gone, because Mikie isn't going anywhere! Mujan, nor anyone else will dictate to me who helps me run this place. Oh, and she is welcome to come back whenever she gets over herself. |
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Mar 13, 2019 14:24:46 GMT -5
Mujan is banned.
She never came to me before lying in her signature. Mikie never threatened to pull any of her posts. As a matter of fact, it was his suggestions to put her Smile writings in an honored place. You cry wolf, then you pay the price. Banned until further notice.
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Post by John Manning on Mar 13, 2019 17:03:08 GMT -5
I stole this idea from SmileySmile because I think it's a nice idea. I know sometimes people don't get along, either due to genuine personality-clashes or misunderstanding on the internet. And I know things get out of hand when you respond in the moment and/or don't want to back down. And I'm def a part of all that. So I would like to start a nicer thread where everybody just says something nice. Preferably about other posters in the BB online fan community--whether they post here specifically or not. But also it could just be about anything. I'll start with a few things I'd like to say. If I didn't mention you please don't take it personally, there's just a lot of people out there to give a shoutout to and you just got lost in the shuffle. But I would like to thank everyone for years of thought-provoking discussion. Andersson—I was really mad at you because I put a lot of time into making interesting material for the PSF to try to get it an audience. And when you deleted the forum, that meant all the time I'd spent doing that was a waste and some of my posts were lost forever. I made my misgivings known in public. But I've been thinking about it these last few days and I know what it feels like to get so upset/just done with shit that you want to just delete everything and walk away. For me in the past that's meant deleting an account, but I didn't have control of a forum at my fingertips. It's conceivable if I had that I would have done what you did. So, I'm sorry for not trying harder to understand where you might have been coming from. I always liked your posts on PSF and I would like to see you back here. Cap'n—I think you're one of the most well-read and even-tempered posters I've seen on either of the forums and I appreciate having at least one person on the political subforums who's interested in even-handed discussion. Also, I really appreciated the VU playlist you made for my benefit. hawaii—I always thought your "hellos" on the shoutbox were cute and was really sad to see you leave. I hope you'll rejoin the community some day. doobidoo, catbirdman, treatzapiza, Sheriff John Stone, sbonilla, BE—thank you all for the kind words about my writing and/or posts. It really meant a lot to me and renewed my confidence after I began seriously doubting myself. Billy—You're a great mod and an even better person. I wish you luck on your journey, however you choose to follow through with things. You don't deserve what you've had to deal with lately. Leetwall31—I was very sad to see you go, and I really appreciate you providing a list of key signatures for all the SMiLE tracks. Your idea for a SmiLE mix was fascinating, one of the most creative formats I'd EVER heard of (and I've listened to over a dozen and a half mixes at least). I really wanted to hear it when you were done, and I hope someday I still might get that opportunity. kds, Dickrising, Cincinnati Kid, anyone else I forgot—Thanks for the new music recommendations. I'd like to check them out in the next few days/weeks. Guitarfool—It sucks things ended up getting acrimonious between us because I really enjoyed our one on one discussions of SMiLE and the Psychedelic Sounds sessions. I was indeed Zenobia, but I did not create that account to make a parting shot, I did it because the Mujan name came with a lot of baggage at that point (I feel like it still does, honestly) and I was hoping to get out from under it. In hindsight that was far from a wise course of action. saltymarshmallow—You are really knowledgeable about SmiLE and I appreciate hearing what you have to say about it. I haven't been on the discord much but my first time, talking about it with you was awesome. Wata—You are pretty much the most chill, goodnatured person on any of the forums. Cam—Your specific ideas for a two-sided Heroes single is one of the more interesting SmiLE theories I've seen. AGD—When I was just starting out on SS, you were very nice to me from the beginning in Pms and stuff, and I always really appreciated it. I also greatly respect the fact that you were the only other person (at least that I can recall) willing to call out Daro to his “face” as opposed to sucking up and only criticize him after the fact. Mikie—I really appreciate your offering to help track down my lost essays from the PSF. Filled—I do think it's nice the way you wish people a happy birthday on the shoutbox. Also, I know for my part I've said things on the forums which I sincerely intended as goodnatured jokes/ribbing which another person would then take offense to and blow way out of proportion. I will concede it's possible that some of your comments towards me might not have been intended to be as hurtful as they felt on my end. Beach Boys Fan—You are blunt and I can see how people take you the wrong way. But you speak your mind even if it's not popular and I respect that. After talking to you more, I think you're very nice and genuinely well-intentioned. You don't deserve anywhere near the amount of flak I see you get sometimes. Last but certainly not least, jk. Getting to be your friend over this past year has been a wonderful experience. You're a great guy and our correspondences are the best thing that's happened to me in my time as part of the online Beach Boys community. To paraphrase Bob Dylan, “I want to thank Mujan for not mentioning me.” |
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Post by Beach Boys Fan on Mar 14, 2019 19:11:37 GMT -5
Good thread steal.  Thanks to tell niceties to me, Leni. Appreciate. I'd mention you too, along with Newguy562 (fun chats), Saltymarshmallow (interesting, balanced SMiLE posts), Rocky Raccoon (polite neutral poster), B.E. (ditto), sbonilla (really like when he tells about song, especially BBs, being similar to the other song by other band/ singer - cool ear catches), treatzapiza, lizzielooziani, Cyncie (remember her?), petsite et al. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 4:08:38 GMT -5
Good thread steal. Thanks to tell niceties to me, Leni. Appreciate. I'd mention you too, along with Newguy562 (fun chats), Saltymarshmallow (interesting, balanced SMiLE posts), Rocky Raccoon (polite neutral poster), B.E. (ditto), sbonilla (really like when he tells about song, especially BBs, being similar to the other song by other band/ singer - cool ear catches), treatzapiza, lizzielooziani, Cyncie (remember her?), petsite et al. Like johnmanning I could paraphrase Bob Dylan and say "I want to thank Beach Boys Fan for not mentioning me", hahaha--but I won't. I like you, BBF, even if you don't like me. Speaking of johnmanning... that was a pretty cheap swipe at someone who can't reply and was genuinely hurt by it. I hope you're feeling proud of yourself. |
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Mar 15, 2019 6:14:57 GMT -5
Good thread steal. Thanks to tell niceties to me, Leni. Appreciate. I'd mention you too, along with Newguy562 (fun chats), Saltymarshmallow (interesting, balanced SMiLE posts), Rocky Raccoon (polite neutral poster), B.E. (ditto), sbonilla (really like when he tells about song, especially BBs, being similar to the other song by other band/ singer - cool ear catches), treatzapiza, lizzielooziani, Cyncie (remember her?), petsite et al. Like johnmanning I could paraphrase Bob Dylan and say "I want to thank Beach Boys Fan for not mentioning me", hahaha--but I won't. I like you, BBF, even if you don't like me. Speaking of johnmanning... that was a pretty cheap swipe at someone who can't reply and was genuinely hurt by it. I hope you're feeling proud of yourself. Hey jk, John said nothing wrong. He can speak for himself and he can quote Bob Dylan if he likes. Nothing bad was said against Mujan directly. Folks can like or dislike whether or not they were mentioned in a post. |
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Post by kds on Mar 15, 2019 7:53:43 GMT -5
Wasn't the original quote by Elton John?
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Post by kds on Mar 15, 2019 8:04:31 GMT -5
Not sure why jk went since I mentioned him in positive way. Maybe the weirdly turned-out quoting-inside reply looked puzzling to him. 2 kds - I think Elton with Dylan said it both the same day. Ah, gotcha. |
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Post by AGD on Mar 16, 2019 11:45:16 GMT -5
Wasn't the original quote by Elton John? Nope. I've heard two versions of what Elt said that day: #1 - "Thank f*** he didn't mention me"... #2 - "why the f*** didn't he mention me ?" (in jest) |
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Post by kds on Mar 16, 2019 14:06:18 GMT -5
Wasn't the original quote by Elton John? Nope. I've heard two versions of what Elt said that day: #1 - "Thank f*** he didn't mention me"... #2 - "why the f*** didn't he mention me ?" (in jest) Thats what I was thinking of, the first quote. |
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Post by John Manning on Mar 16, 2019 14:30:39 GMT -5
Good thread steal. Thanks to tell niceties to me, Leni. Appreciate. I'd mention you too, along with Newguy562 (fun chats), Saltymarshmallow (interesting, balanced SMiLE posts), Rocky Raccoon (polite neutral poster), B.E. (ditto), sbonilla (really like when he tells about song, especially BBs, being similar to the other song by other band/ singer - cool ear catches), treatzapiza, lizzielooziani, Cyncie (remember her?), petsite et al. Like johnmanning I could paraphrase Bob Dylan and say "I want to thank Beach Boys Fan for not mentioning me", hahaha--but I won't. I like you, BBF, even if you don't like me. Speaking of johnmanning... that was a pretty cheap swipe at someone who can't reply and was genuinely hurt by it. I hope you're feeling proud of yourself. Well, since you can’t react here either - by choice - you’ll never get to know my response. |
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Thanks to tell niceties to me, Leni. Appreciate. I'd mention you too, along with Newguy562 (fun chats), Saltymarshmallow (interesting, balanced SMiLE posts), Rocky Raccoon (polite neutral poster), B.E. (ditto), sbonilla (really like when he tells about song, especially BBs, being similar to the other song by other band/ singer - cool ear catches), treatzapiza, lizzielooziani, Cyncie (remember her?), petsite et al.
