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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 21:05:56 GMT -5
I know its integrity is certainly in question and that Landy was around when it was written. Obviously the passages relating to Landy himself and that whole period in Brian's life are suspect at best, propaganda at worst. However, is there any truth in the parts of the bio dealing with the earlier Chapters in Brian's life? If no, are there any specific documented examples of falsehood?
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Post by monolithic on Feb 1, 2019 22:16:33 GMT -5
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Post by Autotune on Feb 2, 2019 7:17:13 GMT -5
I think the turd story sounds plausible..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 7:34:40 GMT -5
It was after getting WIBN as a birthday present in 2002 (I was hoping for a book about Joe Meek!) that my appetite for the Boys was whetted (so to speak). Its mention of Sunflower (which I'd never heard of!) and Surf's Up led me to buy the 2fer and then fall in love with their music on hearing "All I Wanna Do". So yes, it has great personal value for me. And it reads like a dream--in fact, it's the only BB-related book I've ever read twice.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 7:54:33 GMT -5
I got Brian to autograph my copy of the book in October 1991. It's been sitting in a drawer, untouched, since then.
Maybe it would be easier to list the "untruths" in the book. Are there a lot? I don't mean a couple but a lot.
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Post by Autotune on Feb 2, 2019 9:13:29 GMT -5
Some of this book’s problems:
1. It shows Brian’s family in the worst possible light, while it portrays Landy as a faultless savior.
2. It steals from other texts
3. Such stolen texts are edited to comply with point 1 (e.g. the account about Brian quitting the road in 1965 is lifted verbatim from another source, but the part in the original where Carl is praised for his balance and strentgth of character is edited out).
4. Carl is depicted as an overweight alcoholic.
5. Audree is portrayed as an alcoholic.
6. Mike is vilified and scorned.
7. Carl is blamed for Dennis’ death.
8. The style and tone of the writing doesn’t match Brian’s way of speaking (particularly when he speaks about himself) nor his humor.
9. The book attempts to show that thanks to Landy Brian is completey cured and independent, but if Landy were to be removed from Brian’s life then he (Brian) would turn into his obese, mentally-ill self again.
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Post by Cam Mott on Feb 2, 2019 10:41:02 GMT -5
I don't know which parts, if any, are from Brian or true but like responsibility for copyright reporting I think Brian probably bears more responsibility than he gets.
Gold said all along that Brian did like six hours of interviews for the book and Mike's autobio confirms that I believe.
This is not confirmed in anyway that I know of but at one time there was an alleged manuscript of WIBN on eBay with alleged handwritten notes/corrections by Brian in the margins. The seller claimed to be Landys' former Hawaiian housekeeper or something. Anybody remember that or have knowledge of its fakeness or authenticity?
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Post by bittersweetsanity on Feb 2, 2019 12:42:30 GMT -5
i don't remember that, Cam, but it certainly could've been legit. Alexandra Morgan told me that she sold most of Landy's collection after he died.
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Post by AGD on Feb 2, 2019 12:50:51 GMT -5
This is not confirmed in anyway that I know of but at one time there was an alleged manuscript of WIBN on eBay with alleged handwritten notes/corrections by Brian in the margins. The seller claimed to be Landys' former Hawaiian housekeeper or something. Anybody remember that or have knowledge of its fakeness or authenticity? I recall seeing what was alleged to be a page of this online: frankly, the marginalia was in such a bad hand that it could have been anyone. That said, compared to a genuine note in Brian's hand from 1987 printed in The Wilson Project, there was little similarity
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Post by Cam Mott on Feb 2, 2019 13:03:46 GMT -5
This is not confirmed in anyway that I know of but at one time there was an alleged manuscript of WIBN on eBay with alleged handwritten notes/corrections by Brian in the margins. The seller claimed to be Landys' former Hawaiian housekeeper or something. Anybody remember that or have knowledge of its fakeness or authenticity? I recall seeing what was alleged to be a page of this online: frankly, the marginalia was in such a bad hand that it could have been anyone. That said, compared to a genuine note in Brian's hand from 1987 printed in The Wilson Project, there was little similarity My first thought was would Brian hand write notes? JMO he probably would not. I suppose that leaves the possibility of being Brian's thoughts written by another's hand but if the manuscript were in any way authentic my first suspect would be Landy writing his own notes/thoughts in his own hand. But that is just me.
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Post by geminitactics on Feb 2, 2019 15:05:28 GMT -5
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Post by dauber on Feb 2, 2019 22:27:13 GMT -5
One thing that is slightly valuable in the book is basically the before/after photos of Brian, really...like from 1982, and then from a few years later. But the thing is...a good portion of the book seems to be Landy advertising himself.
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Post by lonesurf on Feb 2, 2019 23:03:03 GMT -5
I have an autographed copy. A friend waited in line in NYC to get it for me back in the day. He watched BW sign it. It's signed by Brain Wilson. No, that's not a mistake. Brain.
Maybe Bdub meant to sign it that way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 18:32:58 GMT -5
Outside of the second half of the book reading like a transcript from a testimonial dinner for Eugene Landy, I think there's some entertainment value in the first half of the book even if it's cribbed from other sources.
The other big problem with this book is the total and utter absence of any input from Brian Wilson himself which for an autobiography is, y'know, like I said...a pretty big problem.
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Post by Al S on Feb 4, 2019 1:45:47 GMT -5
The scene that describes Brian launching Karate moves at the baffled King is worth it, true or no.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 7:27:01 GMT -5
I have an autographed copy. A friend waited in line in NYC to get it for me back in the day. He watched BW sign it. It's signed by Brain Wilson. No, that's not a mistake. Brain. Maybe Bdub meant to sign it that way. I had my book autographed by Brian, too. His hands were shaking and his aide, Kevin Leslie, had to literally spell EVERY word for Brian. It was shocking and sad to see.
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Post by Autotune on Feb 4, 2019 8:09:10 GMT -5
I have an autographed copy. A friend waited in line in NYC to get it for me back in the day. He watched BW sign it. It's signed by Brain Wilson. No, that's not a mistake. Brain. Maybe Bdub meant to sign it that way. I had my book autographed by Brian, too. His hands were shaking and his aide, Kevin Leslie, had to literally spell EVERY word for Brian. It was shocking and sad to see. That always shocked me. WIBN was supposedly a book about Brian’s recovery. Yet, they paraded him around the country in a semi-catatonic state for these autograph events. They should have realized it was bad publicity, at least.
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Post by AGD on Feb 4, 2019 15:08:36 GMT -5
The value of the book lies in the smoking gun video that set in motion the events that led to Brian being freed from Landy's clutches.
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Post by Emdeeh on Feb 4, 2019 15:31:23 GMT -5
I am ever-grateful to Diane Sawyer for her part in helping to spring Brian from Landy's clutches.
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