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Post by John Manning on Mar 21, 2024 3:51:42 GMT -5
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Post by sneakypete77 on Mar 21, 2024 4:29:06 GMT -5
Clicked and sorted, thanks John.
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Post by KenWorthing on Mar 21, 2024 5:18:39 GMT -5
Bookmarked to order, Mr.Manning; Sir!
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Post by lonelysummer on Mar 21, 2024 14:14:55 GMT -5
I'm sure he covered all of this in the updated version of his original Brian book.
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Post by AGD on Mar 21, 2024 14:32:00 GMT -5
I'm sure he covered all of this in the updated version of his original Brian book. Congratulations sir, on being pretty much 100% wrong. Some, yes, but all? Nope.
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Post by lonelysummer on Mar 21, 2024 17:42:08 GMT -5
I'm sure he covered all of this in the updated version of his original Brian book. Congratulations sir, on being pretty much 100% wrong. Some, yes, but all? Nope. Well, whatever. I took a look at the updated version of his Brian bio, and saw no reason to purchase it.
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Post by ryankc on Mar 21, 2024 17:55:36 GMT -5
At first glance, I thought this book was the Peter Ames Carlin book - "Catch a Wave: The Rise, Fall, And Redemption of the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson".
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Post by AGD on Mar 23, 2024 14:27:32 GMT -5
Congratulations sir, on being pretty much 100% wrong. Some, yes, but all? Nope. Well, whatever. I took a look at the updated version of his Brian bio, and saw no reason to purchase it. Not the many thousands of words added? How very odd...
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Post by AGD on Mar 24, 2024 1:46:54 GMT -5
David just posted this on Facebook: "Much to my surprise, this link showed up at Amazon this weekend.
The description at Amazon is not how I would have written it. They didn't even spell SMiLE right. 🙂
Here’s how I would describe it: The book is an oral history of SMiLE, as told by those who were there: in 1966-1967 and 2003-2004.
The book has a special focus on the months leading up to the world premiere concert in London on February 20, 2004.
And, of course, great stories from that amazing night too. In fact, the book was inspired as a away to celebrate the 20th anniversary of that miraculous moment.
But I will say this: the book isn't me telling the SMiLE story: It's Van Dyke Parks and Brian Wilson and so many who were there during the original SMiLE sessions in 1966-1967.
And for the Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE chapters, Brian's band - including the late, great Jeffrey Foskett & Nick (Nicky Wonder) Walusko - tell the story from their point of view. Darian Sahanaja, of course, is center stage.
I did over two dozen interviews last year and heard some amazing new stories. And there's a forward by Melinda Wilson, written last year when we decided to do this book. The book is dedicated to her.
To bring in even more voices, the book also includes a SMiLE anthology with a dozen essays by a diverse group of writers and authors (including Domenic Priore).
Do I have anything to say? Of course, but in the 130,000 words, I’m the Greek chorus, connecting sections and commenting, too. Am I an authority, Amazon calls me? That's for you to decide. I have certainly devoted a significant portion of my life to telling Brian Wilson's story, but in this book, we hear from so many others as to what SMiLE was, what it could have been, how it was brought back to life, and what it means twenty years later.
One member of Brian’s band who I asked to read the book said it was is so expansive and detailed that “it makes Beautiful Dreamer the ‘Cliff Notes’ version” of the story!
Honestly, I think it may be the best project about Brian I’ve done, but that will be up to you.
You can pre-order at Amazon.com. Enter Smile + David Leaf."
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Post by lonelysummer on Mar 24, 2024 1:51:18 GMT -5
Well, whatever. I took a look at the updated version of his Brian bio, and saw no reason to purchase it. Not the many thousands of words added? How very odd... The update is basically David telling his story about being allowed into the inner circle. Not something that interests me. If he had talked about C50, TWGMTR, and other similar topics, I might have grabbed it. I never bought the idea that Brian was resurrected by becoming a touring oldies act.
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Post by AGD on Mar 24, 2024 4:55:41 GMT -5
That didn't really kick in until after the Gershwin album, some seven years later. Or indeed after C50.
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Post by E on Mar 24, 2024 5:16:17 GMT -5
Looking forward to it!
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Post by Will/P.P. on Mar 24, 2024 13:49:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the links, John. And Andrew, thanks for the David facebook post. Certainly, is something to look forward to.
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Post by AGD on Mar 24, 2024 16:07:47 GMT -5
A small bonus if you order via Amazon UK - it's out two weeks earlier than the US and is slightly cheaper.
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Post by petsite on Mar 24, 2024 20:47:09 GMT -5
A small bonus if you order via Amazon UK - it's out two weeks earlier than the US and is slightly cheaper. Sounds like it's gonna be an awesome book AGD.
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Post by AGD on Mar 25, 2024 1:28:48 GMT -5
I think so.
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Post by rjm on Mar 25, 2024 2:03:02 GMT -5
Not the many thousands of words added? How very odd... The update is basically David telling his story about being allowed into the inner circle. Not something that interests me. If he had talked about C50, TWGMTR, and other similar topics, I might have grabbed it. I never bought the idea that Brian was resurrected by becoming a touring oldies act. Why? Calling Brian’s shows a “touring oldies act” does what the Brian Wilson Band did a tremendous disservice.
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Post by lonelysummer on Mar 25, 2024 15:00:06 GMT -5
The update is basically David telling his story about being allowed into the inner circle. Not something that interests me. If he had talked about C50, TWGMTR, and other similar topics, I might have grabbed it. I never bought the idea that Brian was resurrected by becoming a touring oldies act. Why? Calling Brian’s shows a “touring oldies act” does what the Brian Wilson Band did a tremendous disservice. It does? There's nothing wrong with playing oldies. The Beach Boys have been doing exactly that for 50 years. But it was clear to me looking at the setlists that I should not go to a Brian Wilson show expecting to hear Walkin' the Line, Orange Crate Art, Rio Grande, Midnight's Another Day, or Melt Away.
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Post by filledeplage on Mar 25, 2024 18:13:05 GMT -5
The update is basically David telling his story about being allowed into the inner circle. Not something that interests me. If he had talked about C50, TWGMTR, and other similar topics, I might have grabbed it. I never bought the idea that Brian was resurrected by becoming a touring oldies act. Why? Calling Brian’s shows a “touring oldies act” does what the Brian Wilson Band did a tremendous disservice. Not really. Brian did the theme-based shows for years. I really loved TLOS. But, at a point, they must have figured that the oldies were where the show really cooked. So they worked Blondie and Matt in for some deeper stuff and it worked out well for the band. I don't think they held their noses to perform. It was a much less intense and light hearted show. And more families with younger kids started showing up. The frosting on the cake - you know...BA and Surfin' USA. And Brian loved it.
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Post by lonelysummer on Mar 25, 2024 21:50:23 GMT -5
Why? Calling Brian’s shows a “touring oldies act” does what the Brian Wilson Band did a tremendous disservice. Not really. Brian did the theme-based shows for years. I really loved TLOS. But, at a point, they must have figured that the oldies were where the show really cooked. So they worked Blondie and Matt in for some deeper stuff and it worked out well for the band. I don't think they held their noses to perform. It was a much less intense and light hearted show. And more families with younger kids started showing up. The frosting on the cake - you know...BA and Surfin' USA. And Brian loved it. And Al is doing the same thing now with his band. Barbara Ann for the encore, followed by Surfin' USA and Fun Fun Fun.
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Post by rjm on Mar 26, 2024 1:04:47 GMT -5
Why? Calling Brian’s shows a “touring oldies act” does what the Brian Wilson Band did a tremendous disservice. It does? There's nothing wrong with playing oldies. The Beach Boys have been doing exactly that for 50 years. But it was clear to me looking at the setlists that I should not go to a Brian Wilson show expecting to hear Walkin' the Line, Orange Crate Art, Rio Grande, Midnight's Another Day, or Melt Away. Except Brian WROTE those oldies. The difference between the two shows was always how the oldies were presented. One treated the oldies like party music. The other treated the oldies with a reverence that you would see when a symphony performs Bach. If you couldn’t tell the difference between them, then I don’t know what more to tell you.
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Post by filledeplage on Mar 26, 2024 8:08:24 GMT -5
Not really. Brian did the theme-based shows for years. I really loved TLOS. But, at a point, they must have figured that the oldies were where the show really cooked. So they worked Blondie and Matt in for some deeper stuff and it worked out well for the band. I don't think they held their noses to perform. It was a much less intense and light hearted show. And more families with younger kids started showing up. The frosting on the cake - you know...BA and Surfin' USA. And Brian loved it. And Al is doing the same thing now with his band. Barbara Ann for the encore, followed by Surfin' USA and Fun Fun Fun. And, Al has Bobby Figueroa for Sail On Sailor. He also did SOS with Cal Surf when Billy was with them.
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Post by AGD on Mar 26, 2024 9:49:13 GMT -5
It does? There's nothing wrong with playing oldies. The Beach Boys have been doing exactly that for 50 years. But it was clear to me looking at the setlists that I should not go to a Brian Wilson show expecting to hear Walkin' the Line, Orange Crate Art, Rio Grande, Midnight's Another Day, or Melt Away. Except Brian WROTE those oldies. The difference between the two shows was always how the oldies were presented. One treated the oldies like party music. The other treated the oldies with a reverence that you would see when a symphony performs Bach. If you couldn’t tell the difference between them, then I don’t know what more to tell you. Except that since about 2004 until recently, Mike's band has generally been on a par with Brian's. Scotty T made sure of that.
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Post by rjm on Mar 26, 2024 9:55:25 GMT -5
Except Brian WROTE those oldies. The difference between the two shows was always how the oldies were presented. One treated the oldies like party music. The other treated the oldies with a reverence that you would see when a symphony performs Bach. If you couldn’t tell the difference between them, then I don’t know what more to tell you. Except that since about 2004 until recently, Mike's band has generally been on a par with Brian's. Scotty T made sure of that. Only because the Brian Band set the new standard.
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Post by lonelysummer on Mar 26, 2024 14:34:34 GMT -5
Except Brian WROTE those oldies. The difference between the two shows was always how the oldies were presented. One treated the oldies like party music. The other treated the oldies with a reverence that you would see when a symphony performs Bach. If you couldn’t tell the difference between them, then I don’t know what more to tell you. Except that since about 2004 until recently, Mike's band has generally been on a par with Brian's. Scotty T made sure of that. This is true. And as I said before, there's nothing wrong with playing oldies. Every year in the 90's and 00's I would see Paul Revere and the Raiders when they came to town, and it was always an entertaining show. Paul often said "people ask us, 'why do you play so many old Raider hits?', and I say 'because we haven't had a hit in 30 years!'" I've seen the Temptations, Four Tops, Herman's Hermits starring Peter Noone, the Turtles featuring Flo and Eddie, Tommy James and the Shondells, Mary Wilson of the Supremes, Mark Lindsay, Felix Cavalerie's Rascals, Glen Campbell, the Kingsmen, all of these acts delivered high quality shows. And no one was going to them expecting to hear "a cut off our new album". If they did have anything new, it was a bonus. Or for casual fans, a chance to go to the beer line.
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