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Post by esqeditor on Mar 13, 2024 20:45:28 GMT -5
The new Genesis Publications book, The Beach Boys by The Beach Boys, is hands down the best thing that has had the groups' name associated with it in the last 30+ years.
And before anyone starts complaining about who isn't on the cover, they need to read the book first.
Review coming soon!
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Post by esqeditor on Mar 18, 2024 22:21:35 GMT -5
The new Genesis Publications book, The Beach Boys by The Beach Boys, is hands down the best thing that has had the groups' name associated with it in the last 30+ years. And before anyone starts complaining about who isn't on the cover, they need to read the book first. Review coming soon! Here's the review. esquarterly.com/2024/03/18/review-the-beach-boys-by-the-beach-boys/ |
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Post by longtime lurker on Mar 19, 2024 8:30:42 GMT -5
The new Genesis Publications book, The Beach Boys by The Beach Boys, is hands down the best thing that has had the groups' name associated with it in the last 30+ years. And before anyone starts complaining about who isn't on the cover, they need to read the book first. Review coming soon! Here's the review. esquarterly.com/2024/03/18/review-the-beach-boys-by-the-beach-boys/Sounds impressive, but it's still a damn shame that, A) Beach Boys fans had to wait until freakin' 2024 for a book of this quality to be published....should have come out 30 years ago. and B) this book is insanely expensive and only a small number (relative to mass-market books) were printed. |
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Mar 19, 2024 9:19:26 GMT -5
The Beach Boys by The Beach Boys, is hands down the best thing that has had the groups' name associated with it in the last 30+ years. better than the good vibrations box? Or the pet sound sessions? Or the endless Harmony documentary? Or The Smile Sessions? I don’t think so. |
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Post by AGD on Mar 19, 2024 10:24:01 GMT -5
Sounds impressive, but it's still a damn shame that, A) Beach Boys fans had to wait until freakin' 2024 for a book of this quality to be published....should have come out 30 years ago. and B) this book is insanely expensive and only a small number (relative to mass-market books) were printed. The mass market edition is published April 2nd. |
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Mar 19, 2024 13:49:49 GMT -5
The Beach Boys by The Beach Boys, is hands down the best thing that has had the groups' name associated with it in the last 30+ years. better than the good vibrations box? Or the pet sound sessions? Or the endless Harmony documentary? Or The Smile Sessions? I don’t think so. I know what David means (book, written word material), but yes you are correct, nothing is ever better than the release of the music itself. |
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Post by Mikie on Mar 19, 2024 15:13:09 GMT -5
The original printing of the book (with a sleeve and autographs) was first offered presale for $1,200 US (945 L) in June, 2023. It sold out on August 15th. I would say $65.00 US is a reasonable price for this hardcover book.
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Post by Mopp on Mar 19, 2024 15:32:18 GMT -5
The mention of an early track listing for Surfer Girl got me interested. I'd already bought a copy, but that's just the sort of ephemera I'm looking for.
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Post by ironhorseapples on Mar 20, 2024 8:24:45 GMT -5
Brian looks amazing on the cover picture.
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Post by esqeditor on Mar 25, 2024 20:14:23 GMT -5
The Beach Boys by The Beach Boys, is hands down the best thing that has had the groups' name associated with it in the last 30+ years. better than the good vibrations box? Or the pet sound sessions? Or the endless Harmony documentary? Or The Smile Sessions? I don’t think so. Musically, no, because it isn't a music release. But in every other aspect it is a big YES. |
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Post by esqeditor on Mar 25, 2024 20:16:34 GMT -5
Giggens and I discuss the book. One correction: the book is fifteen chapters, not nineteen.
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Post by lonelysummer on Mar 28, 2024 15:33:19 GMT -5
It's still bothering me that the book only goes up to 1980. My guess: by ending there, they can avoid a lot of difficult topics like: Carl getting so disgusted with the group's laziness that he leaves the group for a year to tour with his own band; the death of Dennis; the return of Landy; lawsuits; how difficult it was to get Landy untangled from Brian; more lawsuits; the death of Carl; the splintering of the remaining Beach Boys; C50 and the way it ended.
Just my guess.
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Post by Rick Bartlett on Mar 28, 2024 15:44:00 GMT -5
It's still bothering me that the book only goes up to 1980. My guess: by ending there, they can avoid a lot of difficult topics like: Carl getting so disgusted with the group's laziness that he leaves the group for a year to tour with his own band; the death of Dennis; the return of Landy; lawsuits; how difficult it was to get Landy untangled from Brian; more lawsuits; the death of Carl; the splintering of the remaining Beach Boys; C50 and the way it ended. Just my guess. Seriously? Only til 1980? That's like missing half of the story of the damn group! Are they hinting at releasing a part 2? Surely they must be.... What a waste of time, spite what the 'experts' above are saying, but that's kinda counter intuitive to me. The 80's, the 90's were still a pivotal period for the group both good and bad, and the book is only covering half of the story.... I'm with 'lonelysummer' here. Sorry, I'll pass again on this new Beach Boys product. Not many home runs for me lately towards my favorite group. |
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Post by AGD on Mar 28, 2024 18:38:01 GMT -5
Just for context, the Genesis book has over 400 pages covering the first 19 years (and before). The very first BB book I ever bought back in 1977 was The Beach Boys: A Biography In Words And Pictures by Ken Barnes, which went up to 1975 and was all of 58 pages including the covers. BB journalism has come a long way since then. Be thankful the new book exists at all.
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Post by northcoast on Mar 28, 2024 19:46:46 GMT -5
If the book only goes through 1980, it is possible no one wanted to talk about the subsequent years and/or any quotes in circulation would have dealt more with falling outs, interventions and legal actions than the music. For my part, 1983 would have been a logical stepping off point--the temporary popularity surge brought on by the James Watt debacle followed at the end of the year by the death of Dennis which effectively created a permanent void in the band as history knew it.
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Mar 28, 2024 21:33:02 GMT -5
Stopping at 1980 makes a lot of sense to me.
While there’s plenty of music and interesting stories from the following years, not only is it (I assume) not very fun for the remaining members to talk about, but it’s also… not especially an era the General Public cares about.
Also, even if they were to, for example, completely avoid anything controversial from 1981-2012 and purely stick to the music… What would be the point of that? Most of that music is out of print and the only way to officially listen to it is to buy a used copy, so for most people the only way to listen to it is illegally.
That just makes the kind of sense that does.
At the end of the day, this is not a juicy autobiography that is going to go into detail about how the group hates each other.
It’s more like… An advertisement for the group if anything.
Anyone who wants a deep dive on the 90s lawsuit and the creation of “SIP” and how “TWGMTR” was a compromised disaster can read Mike’s book, it’s all in there. It’s a very good read.
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Post by lonelysummer on Mar 28, 2024 22:00:19 GMT -5
If the book only goes through 1980, it is possible no one wanted to talk about the subsequent years and/or any quotes in circulation would have dealt more with falling outs, interventions and legal actions than the music. For my part, 1983 would have been a logical stepping off point--the temporary popularity surge brought on by the James Watt debacle followed at the end of the year by the death of Dennis which effectively created a permanent void in the band as history knew it. Yeah, 1983 was a pretty important year in the history of the group. Landy comes back and gets Brian to slim down; Carl's second solo album comes out and he tours a bit but mostly is with the BBs; the James Watt thing; and yes, Dennis' death. |
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Post by Rick Bartlett on Mar 29, 2024 0:21:36 GMT -5
Just for context, the Genesis book has over 400 pages covering the first 19 years (and before). The very first BB book I ever bought back in 1977 was The Beach Boys: A Biography In Words And Pictures by Ken Barnes, which went up to 1975 and was all of 58 pages including the covers. BB journalism has come a long way since then. Be thankful the new book exists at all. That's fair and understandable, one doesn't have to write and publish everything up until they had eggs on toast for breakfast yesterday, but man, 1980? That's more than a couple of years between end of story and publishing a book about their career. It's missing 44 years! of the groups history! Ummm, and some things have kind of gone down in those years. I'm not saying you have to do in depth chapters about every single year, but Geez!, some worthy acknowledgements just out of respect. Dennis' passing, 85 Beach Boys - showing triumph and staying power, 88 - Kokomo - opens the group to a whole new world of fans, The Landy saga, attempts to reunite in 94/95, Nashville Sounds, Carl's passing, the show goes on, Brian's back 'again!', Reuniting at Capitol Tower for 'Sounds of Summer' awards, David Marks returns, 50th anniversary with remaining members, a new album, Jeffrey Foskett passing, Grammy Awards salute to The Beach Boys....... I'm Sorry, but I just can't buy into a half assed story told book, but I guess that's OK, it's not catered to be for me, I guess it's made for ' the kids'. Wake me up when Part 2 is published.  |
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Post by northcoast on Mar 29, 2024 7:08:02 GMT -5
Just for context, the Genesis book has over 400 pages covering the first 19 years (and before). The very first BB book I ever bought back in 1977 was The Beach Boys: A Biography In Words And Pictures by Ken Barnes, which went up to 1975 and was all of 58 pages including the covers. BB journalism has come a long way since then. Be thankful the new book exists at all. That's fair and understandable, one doesn't have to write and publish everything up until they had eggs on toast for breakfast yesterday, but man, 1980? That's more than a couple of years between end of story and publishing a book about their career. It's missing 44 years! of the groups history! Ummm, and some things have kind of gone down in those years. I'm not saying you have to do in depth chapters about every single year, but Geez!, some worthy acknowledgements just out of respect. Dennis' passing, 85 Beach Boys - showing triumph and staying power, 88 - Kokomo - opens the group to a whole new world of fans, The Landy saga, attempts to reunite in 94/95, Nashville Sounds, Carl's passing, the show goes on, Brian's back 'again!', Reuniting at Capitol Tower for 'Sounds of Summer' awards, David Marks returns, 50th anniversary with remaining members, a new album, Jeffrey Foskett passing, Grammy Awards salute to The Beach Boys....... I'm Sorry, but I just can't buy into a half assed story told book, but I guess that's OK, it's not catered to be for me, I guess it's made for ' the kids'. Wake me up when Part 2 is published. Rick I hear what you are saying but it also could be no one could bear to talk about 1981. The July 5 show that year. And Dennis dropping his drawers and wiggling his rear to the crowd. And touring without Carl. I mean. Who would want to relive that? |
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Mar 29, 2024 10:32:33 GMT -5
Yep, let’s pretend the last 44 years never existed. Arguably, 1977 was the nadir of their time as a fully intact band. I wonder if that will be overlooked? Will tarmac fight photos be included?
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Mar 29, 2024 10:39:05 GMT -5
The Beach Boys released 24 studio albums between 1962 and 1980.
They’ve released four studio albums since 1980, not including Stars and Stripes.
I’m sorry, but if you don’t get why an advertisement for the group in the form of a book doesn’t talk about their least productive period As a studio act, I guess you’ll never get it.
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Post by filledeplage on Mar 29, 2024 11:25:00 GMT -5
Is this a dumb question? Will there be a downloadable copy?
Amazon lists it for $58.50 for my friends who comparison shop.
Thanks. 🎈
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Mar 29, 2024 15:25:51 GMT -5
The Beach Boys released 24 studio albums between 1962 and 1980. They’ve released four studio albums since 1980, not including Stars and Stripes. I’m sorry, but if you don’t get why an advertisement for the group in the form of a book doesn’t talk about their least productive period As a studio act, I guess you’ll never get it. Oh sorry, I thought this book was about the band. Released after their 62nd anniversary. So this is a book of album covers, then? My mistake! My brain is dazed and confused. |
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Post by jds on Mar 29, 2024 22:06:49 GMT -5
That's fair and understandable, one doesn't have to write and publish everything up until they had eggs on toast for breakfast yesterday, but man, 1980? That's more than a couple of years between end of story and publishing a book about their career. It's missing 44 years! of the groups history! The group was more inactive than active after Dennis's death. Congrats that they managed to stay together on paper, but 1980 is a fine stopping point. And this is from someone that unreservedly loves Kokomo and the Full House stuff. |
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Post by jds on Mar 29, 2024 22:18:50 GMT -5
Oh sorry, I thought this book was about the band. Released after their 62nd anniversary. So this is a book of album covers, then? My mistake! My brain is dazed and confused. If the corporate body representing the group's interests wants to make a book about their career until 1980, I don't see why they should also have to make a book about lawsuits, country music collaborative albums and dozens of state fair shows just to please you. |
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