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Post by treatzapiza on Feb 9, 2019 15:35:11 GMT -5
"I can't believe this "
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Post by Mikie on Feb 9, 2019 16:23:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 18:52:41 GMT -5
Yadda yadda yadda isnt a ninties phrase, but it was featured prominently on a seinfeld episode Okey-doke. I got this reading Imdb boards (which were fun whilst they lasted; the reason they ceased to exist is really pathetic). I consider it the greatest loss in the history of the internet. More than old MySpace, geocities or Mega Upload. I love watching old movies and talking about them but unfortunately most of my peers, both now and thru school, didn't. So the IMDb forums were a godsend. For me, checking them out after watching something new was part of the filmgoing experience for me. It was the first website I ever actively visited on a near-daily basis and the first I made an account for. I remember being really active on the Pirates of the Caribbean boards and Clarissa Explains It All boards at various points. I remember fooling around on the TFA board on premiere night and telling everyone Leia died There's absolutely no place to go to for thoughtful discussion on specific movies anymore, especially not older films.
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Post by filledeplage on Feb 12, 2019 10:01:47 GMT -5
Affirmative. It was my favorite pastime in the evenings after meagre suppers. Such joy reading those discussions. Even ''greatest loss in the history of the Internet'' is too tiny statement. Just saw this. Sorry to hear it, BBF. Saw that as well. With jk.
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 12, 2019 10:30:52 GMT -5
What about some of the terms or phrases that politicians and the media pick up on and beat into the ground with overuse?
"the new normal" "embolden" "you're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts" "a perfect storm" "kick the can down the road"
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Post by filledeplage on Feb 12, 2019 10:36:58 GMT -5
What about some of the terms or phrases that politicians and the media pick up on and beat into the ground with overuse?
"the new normal" "embolden" "you're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts" "a perfect storm" "kick the can down the road"
Most of them - "kick the can" is a really old expression - almost like "pass the buck" But, I do like the term "embolden" because it relates to behavior that when not checked or modified becomes or can become monstrous. "You're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts" is just public relations blather and spin. Whose research? Whose findings? Who paid/funded for the study is always my first question?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 18:10:13 GMT -5
What about some of the terms or phrases that politicians and the media pick up on and beat into the ground with overuse?
"the new normal" "embolden" "you're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts" "a perfect storm" "kick the can down the road"
In the analyses I wrote of debates and speeches, I made frequent mention of my "political pet peeves." Some of which included: "In XX months, America is going to make a choice..." Talking about reforming the tax policy. EVERYONE does it and it never happens. "Family Values" (aka Anything that's not two hetero evangelical WASPs with 2.5 kids and a white picket fence can get fucked.) Thanking the moderator at the beginning instead of answering the question, when you're just gonna thank them in the end anyway. Beginning the speech with these arduous, drawn out family shoutouts instead of just talking policy. It's obnoxious and makes it a lot harder to find the speech compelling. Selective enforcement of the roles by the moderator, including trying to insert themselves or their politics into it. The event is about the people learning about the candidates, it's not your big moment to play kingmaker. The entire debate format in general. It's an insufferable quiz show dynamic. "Tell me how to solve the Middle East crisis in less than a minute!!" / "what's your tax policy in 30 seconds!!" The candidates should be give AT LEAST 15 minutes, preferably 30+ minutes of unbroken speaking time. I've always said we should use the old Lincoln Douglas debate format as a guide, where the first guy got 60 minutes, the challenger got 90 minutes, and finally the first guy got 30 as a final rebuttal. Then each debate they switched the speaking order. This way you'd get a candidate's full position including all the context they need to rattle off so it makes sense. The way we do things now is stupid and insulting--it's not wonder a reality TV star dominated with such an asinine format.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Feb 12, 2019 18:21:23 GMT -5
More overused words and phrases: 13. Yada, yada, yada. It's so 90's. (Seinfeld anyone?) 14. Yeah, yeah, yeah in quick succession. Wait. What? I like yeah, yeah, yeah!
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 12, 2019 18:33:23 GMT -5
What about some of the terms or phrases that politicians and the media pick up on and beat into the ground with overuse?
"the new normal" "embolden" "you're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts" "a perfect storm" "kick the can down the road"
In the analyses I wrote of debates and speeches, I made frequent mention of my "political pet peeves." Some of which included: "In XX months, America is going to make a choice..." Talking about reforming the tax policy. EVERYONE does it and it never happens. "Family Values" (aka Anything that's not two hetero evangelical WASPs with 2.5 kids and a white picket fence can get fucked.) Thanking the moderator at the beginning instead of answering the question, when you're just gonna thank them in the end anyway. Beginning the speech with these arduous, drawn out family shoutouts instead of just talking policy. It's obnoxious and makes it a lot harder to find the speech compelling. Selective enforcement of the roles by the moderator, including trying to insert themselves or their politics into it. The event is about the people learning about the candidates, it's not your big moment to play kingmaker. The entire debate format in general. It's an insufferable quiz show dynamic. "Tell me how to solve the Middle East crisis in less than a minute!!" / "what's your tax policy in 30 seconds!!" The candidates should be give AT LEAST 15 minutes, preferably 30+ minutes of unbroken speaking time. I've always said we should use the old Lincoln Douglas debate format as a guide, where the first guy got 60 minutes, the challenger got 90 minutes, and finally the first guy got 30 as a final rebuttal. Then each debate they switched the speaking order. This way you'd get a candidate's full position including all the context they need to rattle off so it makes sense. The way we do things now is stupid and insulting--it's not wonder a reality TV star dominated with such an asinine format.
Political speak and conventions deserve their own thread ... or website. All the things you mentioned are definitely correct. One thing I can say I hate about candidates and officeholders of both parties is the wholly formulaic non-answers they give. I was just swearing out loud on my drive home from work the other day as a Democrat was evading the NPR host's questions. (Hardly a hostile questioner, mind you, at NPR.) It ended up being along the lines of "that's a great question, Audie, and I think what we need to keep in mind is..." [goes on to say something at best tangentially relevant to the question, but most certainly not answering the question].
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 12, 2019 18:34:42 GMT -5
Speaking of the political ones, how about "most important election of our lifetime"? I think literally every presidential election of my adulthood has been billed as such. And a few of the midterms, too. Unless every single election is more important than the last one, that simply cannot be true. (Even if they are increasingly important, it isn't true ... it just makes previous errors mistakes rather than lies.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 18:49:48 GMT -5
Agreed, The Cap'n. There's more I could say, but I don't want to turn this thread solely political and invite directed attacks against specific parties or persons exclusively. But many aspects of our process are absolutely infuriating and it's weird nobody notices or cares enough to talk about it. Another general Pet Peeve that applies to almost everyone though is the same stupid cliches in speeches. I absolutely loathe stupid generic Washington/Lincoln/(rarely) Jefferson quotes thrown in as virtue signaling to that past glory. If quotes are used, they ought to be because the quote itself is priescient, witty and relevant to the situation at hand, not just because a universally revered President said it. I'd love to see quotes from lesser known President who still said something wise. Similarly, I hate it when Presidential candidates feel the need to remind me about the Revolutionary War, Declaration of Independence and Constitution in their speech as if I didn't graduate elementary school. I'd love to see more modern, specific, relevant historical parallels. Like, maybe a left wing candidate could briefly call back to labor unions and the bullshit they put up with to get us rights we take for granted today, or FDR and the New Deal. I'd feel way more inspired hearing something like that, and affirmed in the conviction that this candidate wants to build on that legacy and those gains. America's founding tells me nothing except they're a generic and uninspired candidate trying to skate by on platitudes, forced sentiment and empty gestures.
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Post by Mikie on Feb 12, 2019 22:49:50 GMT -5
Wow, how did this thread turn into fuckin' politics? Just keep it simple, boys! "Overused words and phrases". Please keep the politics on the Politics threads where they belong. Thank you!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 23:06:57 GMT -5
We kept it completely non-partisan nor issue based, just talking about annoying phrases and format of the speeches/debates. But I agree, that's enough and I'll keep it to the political subforum going forward.
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Post by kds on Feb 15, 2019 9:48:22 GMT -5
One pet peeve of mine is seeing avatars and signatures with typos in them that never get corrected. Um... kds ? I actually tried to correct that spelling error, but the changes have disappeared, as has my favorite album. I've just tried again.
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Post by kds on Feb 15, 2019 10:08:04 GMT -5
I actually tried to correct that spelling error, but the changes have disappeared, as has my favorite album. I've just tried again. Don't worry! I was just bored. Sorry I even mentioned it. It's fine, don't worry about it. In any event, I think my edit worked this time. Perhaps due to being on a PC instead of the mobile version.
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Post by mancheeni on Feb 20, 2019 18:13:25 GMT -5
I've seen a huge increase in the word "actively" in the last year or two. Or, rather, it seems like I've seen an increase. Is it just me? I'm on Reddit a lot and I see it there all the time but also from my friends. It's like "I listen to a lot of podcasts" signaling to me. There's often no point in even saying it. "I actively ignore..." Activity is assumed in most of the situations. The word should be reserved for when passiveness is a potential factor. Maybe it's like how people say "definitely" -- of which I'm very guilty -- and it's just meant to add emphasis to the statement. Anyhow, that's my contribution. Sure I can find many more!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 20:01:40 GMT -5
This is probably gonna seem judgmental and get me some bad press around here, but it's my honest opinion for better or worse. I hate the stereotype that blonds have more fun, are sexier, are more desirable, etc while brunettes are supposedly stuffy, bookish and dull. You see this idea reflected in a lot of media. Three's Company comes to mind, where the blond roommates were always treated as "the hot one" while Janet was mostly portrayed as frumpy and more of a stick in the mud at times. It's obviously their hair and they can do what they want with it--obviously. But I dislike it when women dye their hair blond for this reason. It always looks fake to me, and always felt like looking for attention. I hope anyone reading whom this applies to isn't offended, I just hate the stereotype and to me dying ones hair to look sexier and more exciting only reinforces it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blonde_stereotype#Blondes_versus_brunettes
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Post by kds on Feb 21, 2019 8:28:43 GMT -5
I feel the word "literally" tends to be overused to the point of redundancy.
"I've literally been waiting here for a half hour."
And???
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 21, 2019 8:35:10 GMT -5
What’s worse—and this pet peeve is probably said enough that saying it should also count as a pet peeve—is when it’s used meaning figuratively or metaphorically.
“My brain literally exploded,” “my eyes literally popped out of my head.”
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Post by Mikie on Feb 21, 2019 15:36:10 GMT -5
I feel the word "literally" tends to be overused to the point of redundancy. "I've literally been waiting here for a half hour." And??? Literally or figuratively?
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Post by Mikie on Feb 21, 2019 15:59:10 GMT -5
Another one for my list to qualify as overused and "garbage filler". Basically. Like saying "you know" or "ummmmm". Used to buy time while they are thinking about what they will say next. Can be used when a person is unsure about what they are saying, or how it will be understood or reacted to by the recipient.
Or this one: "Right".
Rod: Brian Wilson is a bonafide musical genius.
Dick: Right?
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Post by Emdeeh on Feb 22, 2019 10:09:49 GMT -5
My hubby's peeve is the misuse of "unique" with modifiers, as in "very unique."
Mine is the current American fashion of putting periods between segments of phone numbers instead of dashes. It makes it difficult for older eyes to read the number.
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 22, 2019 10:11:22 GMT -5
Interesting, I've preferred the periods over dashes in phone numbers. I also hate the older convention of putting the area code in parentheses. In both cases, I can't explain why. I think it's just cosmetic for me, not a functional preference.
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Post by Emdeeh on Feb 22, 2019 16:56:52 GMT -5
There was once a functional reason for putting the area code in parentheses, when dialing the area code was for long distance calls only. Nowadays, ten-digit dialing is the norm in most service areas for local calls. When I first moved to my current area, we had five-digit dialing because the place I lived in was small enough that all the phone numbers used the same exchange. We've grown a bit since then, as metro Atlanta encroached and phones and services proliferated. Now we have multiple overlaying area codes, hence ten-digit dialing. As for periods vs. dashes in phone numbers, it works for me like this, in terms of visual tracking: 555-000-0000 = 555 000 0000 (I can tell this is a phone number) 555.111.1111 = 5551111111 (it all mushes together visually and is less legible) When you have aging-related or other eye issues, this can be quite difficult to read. Your mileage may vary and probably will.
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 22, 2019 20:31:36 GMT -5
As for the long distance distinction of area codes, I am old enough to remember that. I also recall the kerfuffle over my metro area--the Twin Cities in Minnesota--splitting into two area codes, though they wouldn't be billed as long distance. It was a huge deal. Now we must have 5-6 of them? Several, anyway. But I don't even notice, since with everything on cell phone and no distinction of charges, it's all irrelevant.
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