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Post by petsite on Jan 3, 2024 19:48:43 GMT -5
Never noticed this before, and like I said I have had a digital copy of LONG PROMISED ROAD since 1999: LA Light Album LP (1979): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 LADY LYNDA / FULL SAIL Single (1979): 02-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 Long Promised Road (1999): 04-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:30 LA Light Album CD (1991): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:56 MIU/LA Light Album CD (2000): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Carl Wilson I Can Hear Music CD (2002): 12-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Longer fade on LPR which equals the original LP and single. |
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Post by longtime lurker on Jan 3, 2024 19:52:00 GMT -5
Never noticed this before, and like I said I have had a digital copy of LONG PROMISED ROAD since 1999: LA Light Album LP (1979): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 LADY LYNDA / FULL SAIL Single (1979): 02-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 Long Promised Road (1999): 04-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:30 LA Light Album CD (1991): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:56 MIU/LA Light Album CD (2000): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Carl Wilson I Can Hear Music CD (2002): 12-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Longer fade on LPR which equals the original LP and single. Wow. That's a pretty significant chunk that was excised. I'm cool with 5 seconds or so, but a full half minute?? |
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Post by petsite on Jan 3, 2024 19:58:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I know. They faded it early. I never paid attention to it. I ripped my LPR CD last night and was comparing it to the I CAN HEAR MUSIC CD. I noticed how much shorter it was so I looked at all of the other versions I had on CD and vinyl. It fades early on the "fade", but I like the longer version. Goes with the flow of the song. Wonder why they did that. Couldn't be an issue with the tape, otherwise the 1999 LPR could not have been done. Maybe the digital copy they used in 1991 and 2000 has that fade. I would have hoped Andrew would have noticed that and fixed the issue.
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Post by lonesurf on Jan 3, 2024 20:02:39 GMT -5
Never noticed this before, and like I said I have had a digital copy of LONG PROMISED ROAD since 1999: LA Light Album LP (1979): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 LADY LYNDA / FULL SAIL Single (1979): 02-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 Long Promised Road (1999): 04-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:30 LA Light Album CD (1991): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:56 MIU/LA Light Album CD (2000): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Carl Wilson I Can Hear Music CD (2002): 12-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Longer fade on LPR which equals the original LP and single. Quick question: is the longer runtime on the LPR cd based on an actual timed listen, or just a perusal of the label? An old friend of mine from the business once told me that runtimes were often exaggerated on labels for compensation purposes. Looking back, it might have even been my discovery of this Full Sail discrepancy that sparked that conversation…. Thanks. Edit: I see you did listen. Interesting & thanks. |
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Post by petsite on Jan 3, 2024 20:10:02 GMT -5
Never noticed this before, and like I said I have had a digital copy of LONG PROMISED ROAD since 1999: LA Light Album LP (1979): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 LADY LYNDA / FULL SAIL Single (1979): 02-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 Long Promised Road (1999): 04-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:30 LA Light Album CD (1991): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:56 MIU/LA Light Album CD (2000): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Carl Wilson I Can Hear Music CD (2002): 12-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Longer fade on LPR which equals the original LP and single. Quick question: is the longer runtime on the LPR cd based on an actual timed listen, or just a perusal of the label? An old friend of mine from the business once told me that runtimes were often exaggerated on labels for compensation purposes. Looking back, it might have even been my discovery of this Full Sail discrepancy that sparked that conversation…. Thanks. Runtime is from the file properties in Windows. Then I played it thru my wav editor. The I Can Hear Music version is from the 2000 MIU/LA CD.
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Post by petsite on Jan 4, 2024 1:16:27 GMT -5
Quick question: is the longer runtime on the LPR cd based on an actual timed listen, or just a perusal of the label? An old friend of mine from the business once told me that runtimes were often exaggerated on labels for compensation purposes. Looking back, it might have even been my discovery of this Full Sail discrepancy that sparked that conversation…. Thanks. Runtime is from the file properties in Windows. Then I played it thru my wav editor. The I Can Hear Music version is from the 2000 MIU/LA CD.
For all of the new fans, don't think we oldies know it all. We are discovering the new along with you. Hey, we didn't find out about the lyrics for the second verse of GOOD VIBRATIONS until 2011! |
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Post by Mikie on Jan 4, 2024 1:27:53 GMT -5
Runtime is from the file properties in Windows. Then I played it thru my wav editor. The I Can Hear Music version is from the 2000 MIU/LA CD.
Hey, we didn't find out about the lyrics for the second verse of GOOD VIBRATIONS until 2011! I think I first heard it on the 1976 radio special, "Best Summer Of Our Lives". Then there were the bootlegs..... |
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Post by petsite on Jan 4, 2024 1:33:36 GMT -5
Hey, we didn't find out about the lyrics for the second verse of GOOD VIBRATIONS until 2011! I think I first heard it on the 1976 radio special, "Best Summer Of Our Lives". Then there were the bootlegs..... I meant:
Close my eyes, she's somehow closer now
Softly smile, I know she must be kind
When I look in her eyes
She goes with me to a blossom world WE FIND
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Post by Mikie on Jan 4, 2024 1:51:50 GMT -5
Ah, yes, according to Mike Love, his original line was, "she goes with me to a blossom world we find", but Brian cut off the last two words to highlight the bass track linking into the chorus. I never knew this until the 2012 reunion tour, where Jeff Foskett(?) surprisingly sang the line with all the words intact on a couple three concert dates.
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Post by petsite on Jan 4, 2024 3:37:51 GMT -5
In 2011, there was a series of videos (sort of a podcast) about the SMiLE release in which Mike speaks about that line.
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Post by spaggy on Jan 4, 2024 7:49:19 GMT -5
Never noticed this before, and like I said I have had a digital copy of LONG PROMISED ROAD since 1999: LA Light Album LP (1979): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 LADY LYNDA / FULL SAIL Single (1979): 02-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 Long Promised Road (1999): 04-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:30 LA Light Album CD (1991): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:56 MIU/LA Light Album CD (2000): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Carl Wilson I Can Hear Music CD (2002): 12-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Longer fade on LPR which equals the original LP and single. The original LP and single are 2:56, just like the CD releases. It's mislabeled, just like several other track times on LA. I have them and just double checked. The only way to full fat Full Sail freedom is on 99 LPR. |
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Post by petsite on Jan 4, 2024 8:10:06 GMT -5
Never noticed this before, and like I said I have had a digital copy of LONG PROMISED ROAD since 1999: LA Light Album LP (1979): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 LADY LYNDA / FULL SAIL Single (1979): 02-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:28 Long Promised Road (1999): 04-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 3:30 LA Light Album CD (1991): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:56 MIU/LA Light Album CD (2000): 03-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Carl Wilson I Can Hear Music CD (2002): 12-The Beach Boys-Full Sail : 2:58
Longer fade on LPR which equals the original LP and single. The original LP and single are 2:56, just like the CD releases. It's mislabeled, just like several other track times on LA. I have them and just double checked. The only way to full fat Full Sail freedom is on 99 LPR. Thank you for that. I currently don't have access to a turntable. That is just weird. They must have made the cut during mastering. I could understand saying the track was longer than the actual running time for $$$, but the fact that the run time listed IS the run time of the track on LPR is kind of weird. |
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Post by spaggy on Jan 4, 2024 8:13:54 GMT -5
The original LP and single are 2:56, just like the CD releases. It's mislabeled, just like several other track times on LA. I have them and just double checked. The only way to full fat Full Sail freedom is on 99 LPR. Thank you for that. I currently don't have access to a turntable. That is just weird. They must have made the cut during mastering. I could understand saying the track was longer than the actual running time for $$$, but the fact that the run time listed IS the run time of the track on LPR is kind of weird. It is weird - in fact, it's a lot like the Sumahama situation, where the original LP and UK single cut it down substantially. Only difference is that the full one later showed up as a b-side in the states and became the defacto CD release. |
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Post by petsite on Jan 4, 2024 8:36:27 GMT -5
Yeah it is weird. The time on Good Timin' is kind of all over the place as well.
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Post by barnsy on Jan 4, 2024 13:44:39 GMT -5
Yeah it is weird. The time on Good Timin' is kind of all over the place as well. Bad Timin'? Love the info in this thread, thanks. |
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Post by dauber on Jan 7, 2024 17:21:20 GMT -5
Ah, yes, according to Mike Love, his original line was, "she goes with me to a blossom world we find", but Brian cut off the last two words to highlight the bass track linking into the chorus. I never knew this until the 2012 reunion tour, where Jeff Foskett(?) surprisingly sang the line with all the words intact on a couple three concert dates. Whoever sings lead on that during "Beach Boys" shows of late sang the missing "we find" when my wife and I saw them in 2019. |
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Post by Mikie on Jan 7, 2024 17:57:26 GMT -5
Ah, yes, according to Mike Love, his original line was, "she goes with me to a blossom world we find", but Brian cut off the last two words to highlight the bass track linking into the chorus. I never knew this until the 2012 reunion tour, where Jeff Foskett(?) surprisingly sang the line with all the words intact on a couple three concert dates. Whoever sings lead on that during "Beach Boys" shows of late sang the missing "we find" when my wife and I saw them in 2019. Jeff was singing it before he left in early 2019. Christian Love sings Good Vibrations these days. Maybe there's a YouTube video with him singing it. |
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Post by Emdeeh on Jan 7, 2024 20:55:36 GMT -5
Christian sang the "we find" part at the show I attended in 2023.
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Post by Mikie on Jan 7, 2024 21:35:59 GMT -5
Yeah, Christian's singing it here, which I'm sure pleases his Dad. And I'll mention it here again, according to Mike, his original line was, "she goes with me to a blossom world we find", but Brian cut off the last two words to highlight the bass track linking into the chorus. It sounds OK here though but I never thought the two words fit anyway:
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Post by lonesurf on Feb 14, 2024 9:26:24 GMT -5
Longer version of Full Sail:
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