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Post by Cam Mott on Feb 9, 2019 17:31:11 GMT -5
"David Anderle's falsehoods" is only half of his reply to David's comments in "Smile is Done". There is another unpublished half of the email under the heading "Message to David Anderle". It is of course only Jules' side but he thought the remarks were "off-base and, frankly, quite nasty". The second half is a sort of an introspection trying to figure out how David could have come to interpret these things "in this negative way", with some rumination on Pynchon and Jules' ex-wife Chrissie, Pynchon fans, and Brian and Phil Spector.
Not sure why he didn't include it in his posts to the mailing list, instead he followed up with the "More on David Anderle" post. At the end of "Message to David Anderle" is Jules' note to me that says "David never answered but Paul replied" and then there is a forward of Paul's reply to Jules which is more a discussion of the first chapter, "A Visit With Brian", in Paul's book. Hopefully it led to Jules and David coming to some kind of understanding.
If even this much is out of line, I'll delete it.
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kirkk
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Post by kirkk on Feb 23, 2019 20:41:41 GMT -5
I’m actually re-reading How Deep is the Ocean? And that “Smile is Done” essay has a lot of interesting moments. The discussion of what Brian’s solo career might be, just as he was about to record Imagination, for example. I’d be curious to see what Anderle and Williams thought of Imagination once it came out. They seem to frequently say that Brian should have the freedom to do what he wants, with no expectations, but at the same time I get the impression that they, like many fans, feel that generally the weirder, quirkier stuff (like Love You) is the “real” Brian.
Was there any reaction from Williams about Brian literally finishing SMiLE? Some follow-up conversation between the two of them after that would be of interest to me, if Williams’ health wasn’t in too steep decline.
Anyway, only tangentially related to this topic (I’m not going to wade too far into the Siegel Vs Anderle/Vosse Posse debates!), but I’m enjoying the book after not having read it in years and years, figured I’d mention it.
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Post by kds on Feb 24, 2019 10:45:16 GMT -5
I’m actually re-reading How Deep is the Ocean? And that “Smile is Done” essay has a lot of interesting moments. The discussion of what Brian’s solo career might be, just as he was about to record Imagination, for example. I’d be curious to see what Anderle and Williams thought of Imagination once it came out. They seem to frequently say that Brian should have the freedom to do what he wants, with no expectations, but at the same time I get the impression that they, like many fans, feel that generally the weirder, quirkier stuff (like Love You) is the “real” Brian. Was there any reaction from Williams about Brian literally finishing SMiLE? Some follow-up conversation between the two of them after that would be of interest to me, if Williams’ health wasn’t in too steep decline. Anyway, only tangentially related to this topic (I’m not going to wade too far into the Siegel Vs Anderle/Vosse Posse debates!), but I’m enjoying the book after not having read it in years and years, figured I’d mention it. Considering Brian's quirkier/weirder material makes up such a small portion of his output, I never really understood the assessment of that as the "real Brian."
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