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Post by kds on Feb 26, 2019 9:01:46 GMT -5
Speaking of post-Freddie's death, time marches on doesn't it?
John Deacon - the somewhat forgotten member of Queen. It's funny how non touring members of legacy acts don't seem to age as well. For further proof, check out pics of original members of Iron Maiden Paul Dianno and Dennis Stratton, and compare them to Dave Murray and Steve Harris, who are still in the band today. |
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Post by kds on Feb 28, 2019 12:18:16 GMT -5
Speaking of Queen + Adam Lambert, I've noticed that there is a bit of a division in the Queen fandom about the touring version of the band.
Granted, I haven't seen anyone call Brian May or Roger Taylor terrible names or purposely misspell their names to prove some kind of point, but there is some talk about that dreaded L word - "legacy," and how Brian and Roger are hurting Queen's legacy by continuing to tour.
Here are some of my thoughts
- They don't use the name "Queen" solely. Ever since Brian May and Roger Taylor decided to revive Queen as a touring band, it's always been "Queen +" with either Paul Rodgers or Adam Lambert added to the bill. To me, this is Brian and Roger acknowledging that there is no "Queen" without Freddie and John.
- There didn't seem to be as much resistance when Paul Rodgers was singing for them. Maybe it's because social media was fairly new during Rodgers' stint. It could also be an anti-pop bias, which I've been guilty of, even though I think Lambert is a good fit for Queen's music.
- As somebody who is 38 years old, I didn't have the privilege of seeing Queen in concert. So, I think it's great that people now have the chance to hear Queen songs in concert, played by members of the band. And neither Brian May or Roger Taylor's names really have a lot of cache, so I don't blame them for using an amended version of the Queen name to tour.
- One of the funniest criticisms I've read of Lambert is that he's "campy." Have these people never seen any footage of Freddie Mercury?? He used to ride on Superman or Darth Vader's shoulders in concert, wearing bicycle shorts.
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Post by Silken on Feb 28, 2019 13:01:54 GMT -5
- One of the funniest criticisms I've read of Lambert is that he's "campy." Have these people never seen any footage of Freddie Mercury?? He used to ride on Superman or Darth Vader's shoulders in concert, wearing bicycle shorts. There is a difference. Freddie was campy; Lambert tries too hard to be campy (and as campy as possible). That's what I don't like about him. |
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Post by kds on Feb 28, 2019 13:03:12 GMT -5
- One of the funniest criticisms I've read of Lambert is that he's "campy." Have these people never seen any footage of Freddie Mercury?? He used to ride on Superman or Darth Vader's shoulders in concert, wearing bicycle shorts. There is a difference. Freddie was campy; Lambert tries too hard to be campy (and as campy as possible). That's what I don't like about him. I don't know, I'm not seeing it. Granted, I've not watched a full show, just a few highlights I've seen online. |
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 28, 2019 13:06:10 GMT -5
Interesting take. I’d say part of the anti-Lambert bias could be that Rodgers is more Queen’s peer both in age and stature, while people could see Lambert as some reality tv kid unworthy of them.
The “camp” criticism is the funniest, dumbest one I’ve heard! Then again I’ve read repeatedly that especially in America a lot of people didn’t realize Freddie wasn’t straight. Oooookaaaay. Guess times were different (and blinders were on)!
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Post by kds on Feb 28, 2019 13:52:38 GMT -5
Interesting take. I’d say part of the anti-Lambert bias could be that Rodgers is more Queen’s peer both in age and stature, while people could see Lambert as some reality tv kid unworthy of them. The “camp” criticism is the funniest, dumbest one I’ve heard! Then again I’ve read repeatedly that especially in America a lot of people didn’t realize Freddie wasn’t straight. Oooookaaaay. Guess times were different (and blinders were on)! I'll admit, as a fan of mostly classic rock, I was a little disappointed at Queen carrying on with Lambert after Rodgers went back to Bad Company. But, then I heard Lambert's voice, and thought he'd be a good fit. It was definitely a different time back in Queen's hey day. Remember their I Want to Break Free video got banned from MTV because it featuring cross dressing. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 1:42:51 GMT -5
Interesting take. I’d say part of the anti-Lambert bias could be that Rodgers is more Queen’s peer both in age and stature, while people could see Lambert as some reality tv kid unworthy of them. The “camp” criticism is the funniest, dumbest one I’ve heard! Then again I’ve read repeatedly that especially in America a lot of people didn’t realize Freddie wasn’t straight. Oooookaaaay. Guess times were different (and blinders were on)! You'll have to cut us some slack here, when Freddie debuted his new short hair/mustache/tight jeans/muscle shirt look of 1981 it was identical to the way every guy from New Jersey looked. The only thing missing was a Trans-Am. |
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Post by The Cap'n on Mar 12, 2019 18:55:20 GMT -5
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Post by Beach Boys Fan on Apr 8, 2019 20:40:39 GMT -5
Seen recently trailer to "Bohemian Rhapsody" - 3 bandmates look OK but the guy who plays Mercury is beyond ugly. Shan't say I'm Mercury's face fan but he isn't THAT bad-looking. Who casted this Malek guy? Then again, it may be due to his ethnic background (IIRC) being the same as Freddie's. Maybe there isn't anybody such. Too bad they included the aids/ drama in film. It isn't necessary, they could just wrap it with Queen's last biggest successful tour in classic line-up, then cut to info in the screen about illness, that they still tour with different lead singer yada yada. kds, what did you think when seeing trailer? Did you decide to check the film yet? Is it good even? In 10 scale, what will you give it? |
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Post by kds on Apr 9, 2019 7:29:43 GMT -5
Seen recently trailer to "Bohemian Rhapsody" - 3 bandmates look OK but the guy who plays Mercury is beyond ugly. Shan't say I'm Mercury's face fan but he isn't THAT bad-looking. Who casted this Malek guy? Then again, it may be due to his ethnic background (IIRC) being the same as Freddie's. Maybe there isn't anybody such. Too bad they included the aids/ drama in film. It isn't necessary, they could just wrap it with Queen's last biggest successful tour in classic line-up, then cut to info in the screen about illness, that they still tour with different lead singer yada yada. kds , what did you think when seeing trailer? Did you decide to check the film yet? Is it good even? In 10 scale, what will you give it? I've seen the movie, and I can tell you that very little time is spent on Freddie's illness. In fact, the film's ending is pretty close to what you hoped for here (apologies if this is a spoiler). I thought the movie was good, but could've been great. I thought that if they concentrated as much on the narrative / story as much as they did on the performances, it would've been a classic. Malek nailed Freddie as a performer, but I feel like his performance as Freddie the person was a little lacking. I honestly think that people were blinded a bit with how great the performance portions of the movie were, that they didn't notice that the biopic itself could've been a lot better. Out of 10, I'd probably give the movie a 7. |
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Post by AGD on Apr 9, 2019 8:13:22 GMT -5
Seen recently trailer to "Bohemian Rhapsody" - 3 bandmates look OK but the guy who plays Mercury is beyond ugly. Shan't say I'm Mercury's face fan but he isn't THAT bad-looking. Who casted this Malek guy? Then again, it may be due to his ethnic background (IIRC) being the same as Freddie's. Maybe there isn't anybody such. Too bad they included the aids/ drama in film. It isn't necessary, they could just wrap it with Queen's last biggest successful tour in classic line-up, then cut to info in the screen about illness, that they still tour with different lead singer yada yada. I'm guessing you didn't like it when they included Brian's breakdown andmental illness in "Love and Mercy" either, then. Not necessary. Try watching the whole movie then pass comment. Oh, and Malek won the Oscar for his portrayal of Freddie, so apparently someone liked the casting. |
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Post by Beach Boys Fan on Apr 9, 2019 9:05:23 GMT -5
I've seen the movie, and I can tell you that very little time is spent on Freddie's illness. In fact, the film's ending is pretty close to what you hoped for here (apologies if this is a spoiler). I thought the movie was good, but could've been great. I thought that if they concentrated as much on the narrative / story as much as they did on the performances, it would've been a classic. Malek nailed Freddie as a performer, but I feel like his performance as Freddie the person was a little lacking. I honestly think that people were blinded a bit with how great the performance portions of the movie were, that they didn't notice that the biopic itself could've been a lot better. Out of 10, I'd probably give the movie a 7. Do you think, with time, you're going to get back to this film or it'll do for you? & next question - did Malek guy sing songs or Freddie's voice used? |
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Post by kds on Apr 9, 2019 9:10:06 GMT -5
I've seen the movie, and I can tell you that very little time is spent on Freddie's illness. In fact, the film's ending is pretty close to what you hoped for here (apologies if this is a spoiler). I thought the movie was good, but could've been great. I thought that if they concentrated as much on the narrative / story as much as they did on the performances, it would've been a classic. Malek nailed Freddie as a performer, but I feel like his performance as Freddie the person was a little lacking. I honestly think that people were blinded a bit with how great the performance portions of the movie were, that they didn't notice that the biopic itself could've been a lot better. Out of 10, I'd probably give the movie a 7. Do you think, with time, you're going to get back to this film or it'll do for you? & next question - did Malek guy sing songs or Freddie's voice used? I'll probably wind up watching it again at some point. It's not really that I didn't enjoy the movie. As a movie, I did. But, after hearing all of the acclaim for it, I guess I was hoping for something with a little more depth. They used Freddie's voice combined with a Freddie impersonator. Malek didn't sing any of the songs. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 20:14:51 GMT -5
Do you think, with time, you're going to get back to this film or it'll do for you? & next question - did Malek guy sing songs or Freddie's voice used? I'll probably wind up watching it again at some point. It's not really that I didn't enjoy the movie. As a movie, I did. But, after hearing all of the acclaim for it, I guess I was hoping for something with a little more depth. They used Freddie's voice combined with a Freddie impersonator. Malek didn't sing any of the songs. Agree with your take kds. I was disappointed by the movie. I thought Rami’s acting was pretty awful. Didn’t really learn anything about Freddie or Queen. Even in love and mercy I felt like I gained some kind of insight/new perspective on the band. This movie felt like they used queens Wikipedia article as a script. Would have loved more insight on Freddie the person...the creative process behind his songwriting...rather than just Hollywood stylized romances and ‘boom boom clap’ studio sessions |
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Post by kds on Apr 11, 2019 7:22:36 GMT -5
I'll probably wind up watching it again at some point. It's not really that I didn't enjoy the movie. As a movie, I did. But, after hearing all of the acclaim for it, I guess I was hoping for something with a little more depth. They used Freddie's voice combined with a Freddie impersonator. Malek didn't sing any of the songs. Agree with your take kds. I was disappointed by the movie. I thought Rami’s acting was pretty awful. Didn’t really learn anything about Freddie or Queen. Even in love and mercy I felt like I gained some kind of insight/new perspective on the band. This movie felt like they used queens Wikipedia article as a script. Would have loved more insight on Freddie the person...the creative process behind his songwriting...rather than just Hollywood stylized romances and ‘boom boom clap’ studio sessions My only other gripe has to do with the music they used. I'm glad that the movie seems to be turning people on to Queen, but I wish they'd been a little more daring with song selection for the movie. This could've been a great way to show off some of Queen's great album tracks to entice people to dig a little deeper into the catalog. Other than a dialog reference to Sweet Lady, they didn't really do that. |
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