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Post by craigslowinski on Mar 31, 2022 7:39:05 GMT -5
Some super aggressive drum compression on Ding Dang Whoever played drums on that one (I’m going to assume Ricky right now just as a guess, not taking it seriously) really, REALLY smacked those skins. Ricky most likely is the drummer on "Ding Dang", given the era in which it was recorded ('73 or '74). |
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Post by WillJC on Mar 31, 2022 9:12:31 GMT -5
Whoever played drums on that one (I’m going to assume Ricky right now just as a guess, not taking it seriously) really, REALLY smacked those skins. Ricky most likely is the drummer on "Ding Dang", given the era in which it was recorded ('73 or '74). June 10 '74 is the recording date for the one on Love You. |
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Post by nts1drums on Apr 1, 2022 17:30:51 GMT -5
Figured I bring up another topic, that being this clip:
Seeing Dennis with a beard in 1969-1970 is honestly a bit strange, given that one wouldn’t associate him with that look until 1976.
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Post by lonesurf on Apr 1, 2022 21:43:42 GMT -5
I’ve never seen that video before… thanks!
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Post by nts1drums on Apr 3, 2022 5:45:55 GMT -5
Found this lovely picture. The source I found it from said it was 1966, but I’m not so sure about that. Looks more like 1967. Attachments:
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Post by AGD on Apr 3, 2022 6:33:35 GMT -5
Jules Siegel mentioned the dolls in his legendary Goodbye Surfing, Hello God! article, and he was there in late 1966. "...decorations ranging from lava lamps to a department store rack of dozens of dolls, each still in its plastic bubble container, the whole display trembling like a space-age Christmas tree to the music flowing out into the living room." Anyone not read the Siegel article - and it's basically the wellspring of the whole Smile mythos - can find it here: Goodbye Surfing, Hello God!
Apropos of said article, this has always intrigued me: "It was just another day of greatness at Gold Star Recording Studios on Santa Monica Boulevard in Hollywood. In the morning four long-haired kids had knocked out two hours of sound for a record plugger who was trying to curry favor with a disc jockey friend of theirs in San Jose. Nobody knew it at the moment, but out of that two hours there were about three minutes that would hit the top of the charts in a few weeks, and the record plugger, the disc jockey and the kids would all be hailed as geniuses, but geniuses with a very small g." Anyone got any idea who that group might be ? My immediate thought was The Monkees... but "I'm A Believer" was recorded in New York... |
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Post by radiokingdom on Mar 13, 2023 11:53:17 GMT -5
Couldn't disagree more. Love You has some of the most powerful drum sounds I've heard. Dennis hits harder than hell on Mona and Honkin'. Beautiful engineering work by Mankey! Yeah, lack of power is not something I associate with the Love You drums -- they are pretty in-your-face. And I'm not equating professionalism with perfection. I think the Pet Sounds backing tracks are as good as they are because of Brian's lack of professionalism.Could I ask you to say more about this, please? I have a couple ways to interpret what you mean, and rather than guessing, I'd like to just ask. |
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Post by daytona on Jan 10, 2024 19:24:44 GMT -5
Here it is so you don't have to click through, in a little wider angle, also. Note the two U67s as close overheads. Huh. For some reason I always thought this was 1971. |
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Post by brian65 on Jan 10, 2024 20:26:44 GMT -5
That's Not Me is Dennis on Drums. The only Pet sounds track with band playing except Hal Blaine on a wooden percussion instrument. It has that loose Wilson Drum playing feel, as does one Version 2 of Child Is Father of The Man from Smile. It's believed to be Brian playing the Snare Drum on an Overdub, as no percussionists are on the session.
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Post by bessieboporbach on Jan 10, 2024 20:56:47 GMT -5
It's a real drum set, and Earle Mankey has given some details on how he recorded it - basically just lots of echo! Drum machines in 1976 did not sound anything like real drums yet. The first Suicide album probably gives some sense of what Love You might have sounded like with a Seeburg Rhythm Prince instead of the real drums actually used. Wasn't the same machine used on "Til I Die" and "Big Sur"? |
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Post by daytona on Jan 10, 2024 20:59:01 GMT -5
It's a real drum set, and Earle Mankey has given some details on how he recorded it - basically just lots of echo! Drum machines in 1976 did not sound anything like real drums yet. The first Suicide album probably gives some sense of what Love You might have sounded like with a Seeburg Rhythm Prince instead of the real drums actually used. Wasn't the same machine used on "Til I Die" and "Big Sur"? Only thing is Suicide is way too dark for a Beach Boys album. |
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Post by nts1drums on Jan 10, 2024 21:01:39 GMT -5
It's a real drum set, and Earle Mankey has given some details on how he recorded it - basically just lots of echo! Drum machines in 1976 did not sound anything like real drums yet. The first Suicide album probably gives some sense of what Love You might have sounded like with a Seeburg Rhythm Prince instead of the real drums actually used. Wasn't the same machine used on "Til I Die" and "Big Sur"? The Beach Boys were quite fond of the Maestro Rhythm King MRK-2, which shows up quite a bit on some material 1969-1972, these being the ones I remember off the top of my head: Where is She Lady (Fallin’ in Love) Big Sur (1970 version) ‘Til I Die Gimme Some Lovin’ / I Need Your Love We Got Love |
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Post by Vale on Jan 11, 2024 4:09:19 GMT -5
Anybody knows what kind of piano is Brian using in this picture? Brand? |
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Post by AGD on Jan 11, 2024 5:04:50 GMT -5
Found this lovely picture. The source I found it from said it was 1966, but I’m not so sure about that. Looks more like 1967. Has to be from 1966, as you can see the store display of dolls behind Brian that Siegel mentioned in his iconic article: "“I’m writing a teenage symphony to God,” Brian told dinner guests on an October evening. He then played for them the collection of black acetate trial records that lay piled on the floor of his red-imitation-velvet-wallpapered bedroom with its leopard-print bedspread. In the bathroom, above the washbasin, there was a plastic color picture of Jesus Christ with trick-effect eyes that appeared to open and close when you moved your head. Sophisticate newcomers pointed it out to each other and laughed slyly, almost hoping to find a Keane painting among decorations ranging from lava lamps to a department store rack of dozens of dolls, each still in its plastic bubble container, the whole display trembling like a space-age Christmas tree to the music flowing out into the living room." |
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Post by longtime lurker on Jan 11, 2024 9:57:07 GMT -5
Anybody knows what kind of piano is Brian using in this picture? Brand? No, but that's an interesting photo....don't believe (at least, I can't recall) I've ever seen ML playing a guitar. |
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Post by AGD on Jan 11, 2024 11:35:28 GMT -5
It's a full sized grand piano.
There's footage of Mike "playing" a guitar in the "Our Team" promo.
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Post by Rick Bartlett on Jan 17, 2024 3:53:06 GMT -5
A new one for me. This is on 'Twitter', and posted by Beach BoysLegacy.com with a comment 'jamin' on a rooftop circa 65'.  65' looks visually correct.... but Why are they on a roof? Never seen Bruce pictured holding a Rickenbacker before, and Carl on Brian's Fender Bass. Dennis just soakin' up the Sun Rays... |
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