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Post by jk on Jan 8, 2022 8:24:10 GMT -5
We have a place for songs that make us laugh (the "Humour" thread) but not one for the sob stuff. Of course, this can include songs (and I know of at least one) where the singer breaks down, or pretends to.
One that I avoid like the plague because it's guaranteed to get me blubbing is Ralph McTell's "Old Brown Dog". Curiously, it's the guitar solo that pushes me over the edge. I can't find the original anywhere (from Ralph's 1971 album You Well-Meaning Brought Me Here, a great favourite of my wife's), which is probably just as well. So here's another sad doggie song by The Byrds. Handkerchieves at the ready, folks:
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Post by carllove on Jan 8, 2022 11:08:44 GMT -5
As the mother of an only daughter, I can’t make it through this song without sobbing.
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Post by jk on Jan 8, 2022 13:54:31 GMT -5
As the mother of an only daughter, I can’t make it through this song without sobbing. I can understand that, cl. On the evening of the day after John Lennon was murdered, I was at the dinner table with my wife and our then two-year-old son when "Beautiful Boy" came on the radio... I haven't listened to it since.
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Post by carllove on Jan 9, 2022 2:36:13 GMT -5
As the mother of an only daughter, I can’t make it through this song without sobbing. I can understand that, cl. On the evening of the day after John Lennon was murdered, I was at the dinner table with my wife and our then two-year-old son when "Beautiful Boy" came on the radio... I haven't listened to it since. You probably saw my post somewhere, when I mentioned the pain of listening to Double Fantasy even to this day.
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Post by jk on Jan 9, 2022 4:57:54 GMT -5
You probably saw my post somewhere, when I mentioned the pain of listening to Double Fantasy even to this day.
Yes. What a dreadful time that was. On a much lighter note, yesterday we and our six-year-old granddaughter watched the Dutch-spoken version of Disney's Lady and the Tramp, which I remember seeing as a young child in the UK in the mid-1950s. The spaghetti-eating scene brought tears to my eyes even then and it happened again yesterday evening!
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Jan 9, 2022 10:54:46 GMT -5
Even before I found out that this song is about Carl’s dog, Shannon, this song always brought a tear to my eye. Here is Henry Gross with Shannon.
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Post by jk on Jan 10, 2022 13:50:11 GMT -5
I'd never heard of "Rainbow Connection", as sung by Kermit the Frog in The Muppet Movie (1979), until a good friend of mine mentioned it as being one of their favourite songs from childhood onwards. Knowing what that friend went through then and has gone through since tears me up even now (I had to turn it off). So yes, it belongs in this thread:
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Post by jk on Jan 11, 2022 5:44:35 GMT -5
The subjects most likely to incapacitate me are children and animals in distress, in songs or in real life.
Not a song this time, but an entire Sovietwave Spacemix. It's the comments about Laika, the dog the Russians shot into space in 1957, that set me off. I vaguely remember it happening at the time but it was a recent documentary series about the Soviet Union that jogged my memory. Her wikipage has more information for the strong of constitution. One glance was enough (read: too much) for me.
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Post by jk on Jan 11, 2022 10:23:44 GMT -5
Now for a reversal of roles. The following is adapted from Manny Mora's YouTube blurb: Jackie & the Starlites were another one-hit wonder doo wop group. "Valerie" [or "Valarie", as the Mothers of Invention call it -- there is some confusion here] was cut for Bobby Robinson's Fury label in 1960, at the tail end of the doo wop era and, indeed, may have been among the first songs in that style to appeal as a stylized "oldie". It barely brushed the national charts, but it was embraced by the community of doo wop singers as a standard. Jackie La Rue originally started singing with an outfit called the Five Wings in the early '50s, and cut a pair of singles with the group for King Records in 1955 before they broke up that year. Two of their members went on to form the Dubs, but La Rue wasn't heard from again in music until 1960, when the Starlites coalesced, consisting of Jackie Rue, as he was then known, Alton Thomas, John Felix and Billy Montgomery. Rue was the star of the show as a superb acting singer, whose feigned weeping was apparently utterly convincing to onlookers and listeners. Their records following their successful debut were a mix of soul and upbeat ballads that failed to capture the imagination in the manner of "Valerie". By 1963, Fury Records was bankrupt, although the group managed to move on to Mascot Records in 1962 before disbanding sometime in the mid '60s. Tragically, Jackie Rue died of a drug overdose sometime in the late '60s or early '70s.
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Post by dom on Jan 12, 2022 1:25:11 GMT -5
This song makes me weep every time. Even past the lyrics, which are about an uncomfortable and tumultuous relationship... taking in the highs with the lows between two people with their own set of problems... PAST THAT, the melodic and harmonic content are so expertly crafted, as well as the "vibes," the distant slide guitar and the strings, and of course Phoebe's gorgeous whisper of a voice. Makes me cry without fail. I was having a really rough time at school last semester for a week or two, and one night while my roommate was out I just put this song on repeat and rolled around on the floor sobbing, involuntarily, just because of how intensely it made me emote.
Savior Complex - Phoebe Bridgers
Another song that has this effect is A Day in the Life of a Tree, which upon my first listen a year or two ago, I drew direct parallels to Brian's life and experiences from that of the song's narrative tree, and then I was unaware of Riely's participation on the song and assumed it was Brian singing it with his then-deteriorating voice. Though I found out later that I was wrong, the song still has a profound air of autobiography, and the end with Van Dyke Parks singing backup feels like a recalling of the previous decade, including the smile fiasco and the ensuing time in which Brian pulled away. That makes me profoundly depressed, and though I am still thoroughly uplifted by Brian and his music, his story does bring me down a few notches.
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Post by jk on Jan 12, 2022 4:30:11 GMT -5
Oooff, that's pretty heavy. I can imagine it sets you off. I hope things are better for you now. Oh, if only that hadn't included that little dog in the video! Then I might have sat through it dry-eyed. Reading her wiki, Ms Bridgers seems to have had her own share of troubles. I confess I'm utterly unfamiliar with her work. And yes, "ADITLOAT" has to be the saddest Beach Boys song of them all, for many reasons. And... I see there's a (perhaps inevitable) link between Phoebe's and the Boys' music: session drummer Jim Keltner.
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Post by onkster818 on Jan 13, 2022 18:46:22 GMT -5
This one:
A friend’s puggle died recently, and this is the tune he picked for me to build a tribute video to.
God, I was a mess working on it the first few days
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Post by jk on Jan 14, 2022 7:46:37 GMT -5
A friend’s puggle died recently, and this is the tune he picked for me to build a tribute video to. God, I was a mess working on it the first few daysOooff, I bet you were! Hi onkster, I recall you posted in a similar thread at Smiley a while back.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Apr 13, 2023 5:23:47 GMT -5
this is not a sad song, just beautiful.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Apr 13, 2023 5:31:19 GMT -5
"Old Blue" makes you cry? The one about Carl's dog was ridiculous once I found out it was about a dog. As far as losing a dog goes, don't expect them to live as long as a human. Here's Roger getting down with his next pet, toughen up.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Apr 13, 2023 5:54:02 GMT -5
I didn't cry when Lennon was killed. I was angry more than sad. John's song for Paul was sorta sad, but it doesn't make me cry. I doubt George would have been all in for a Beatles reunion. Paul might have come licking around his door. Maybe Ringo. Yoko offered the song to the Threedles, but they passed. That reunion was all about money in 1995.
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Post by SMiLE-Holland on Apr 13, 2023 9:59:28 GMT -5
I can't say that songs can really make me cry, but there's a few that can really hit emotionally. For example the closing piece of We're Not Gonna Take It" by The Who (hence my signature)
Another one is Hide In Your Shell by Supertramp. Even when I was young and didn't understand the words yet, the music would really move me (especially from 5:39 on). So one can say that the music and the harmonies perfectly fit the message it brings.
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Post by jk on Apr 16, 2023 5:31:27 GMT -5
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Post by radiokingdom on Apr 16, 2023 15:13:52 GMT -5
I didn't cry when Lennon was killed. I was angry more than sad. John's song for Paul was sorta sad, but it doesn't make me cry. I doubt George would have been all in for a Beatles reunion. Paul might have come licking around his door. Maybe Ringo. Yoko offered the song to the Threedles, but they passed. That reunion was all about money in 1995. What song?
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Post by ian on Apr 16, 2023 21:23:16 GMT -5
A few songs that I find very moving-don’t ask why-are del Shannon’s song Jody, Brian’s song Everything I Need as sung by Foskett and Brian, leaving on your mind by Patsy Cline and the fleetwoods Mr Blue
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Post by jk on Apr 17, 2023 2:36:04 GMT -5
I didn't cry when Lennon was killed. I was angry more than sad. John's song for Paul was sorta sad, but it doesn't make me cry. I doubt George would have been all in for a Beatles reunion. Paul might have come licking around his door. Maybe Ringo. Yoko offered the song to the Threedles, but they passed. That reunion was all about money in 1995. What song? What song, Will/P.P.?
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Post by Awesoman on Apr 17, 2023 7:19:36 GMT -5
"Cherish" by The Association always hits me with the melancholy.
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Post by ian on Apr 17, 2023 7:41:56 GMT -5
I assume he meant the Paul song Here Today, which is about John
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Post by jk on Apr 17, 2023 15:35:07 GMT -5
A few songs that I find very moving-don’t ask why-are del Shannon’s song Jody, Brian’s song Everything I Need as sung by Foskett and Brian, leaving on your mind by Patsy Cline and the fleetwoods Mr Blue Lovely song. You can really hear the influence of Johnny Mathis, one of Del's favourite singers. It closes side two of Runaway with Del Shannon, the first LP I ever bought. (It was also the B-side of his first and biggest hit.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaway_with_Del_Shannon
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Post by Will/P.P. on Apr 17, 2023 16:13:18 GMT -5
I didn't cry when Lennon was killed. I was angry more than sad. John's song for Paul was sorta sad, but it doesn't make me cry. I doubt George would have been all in for a Beatles reunion. Paul might have come licking around his door. Maybe Ringo. Yoko offered the song to the Threedles, but they passed. That reunion was all about money in 1995. What song? First off, it is not the song you are listening to that makes you cry, it is your emotions while you are listening. Something about the lyrics might remind you of someone, but that can happen when that song is otherwise a happy song in intensions. I can't think of much other than death that would get me to cry. I've been married for over forty years, so that doesn't play into it. I still have only love for the people in my past, choosing to remember only the good things that happened in my relationships before 1980. Me and my partner met on Father's Day 1979, after a big party out in Golden Gate Park. Our first date was the next week-end, a Beach Boys concert in Berkeley! Isn't that sweet? Got married on the 3rd of February 1980. Yes, I picked the date. Do you know what that day was in Beach Boys history? I did cry when Dennis died. It was so unexpected, tho I knew he was having a rough time with life. Had just seen them, 16 July 1983, at Candlestick Park. It was from a distance; they would not let us on the field. But, believe it or not, many of the folks there with the front row seats for the baseball game left! Moved from the $5-nosebleed section right down to as close as we could get. It was in the first few rows near home plate. All of the Wilson brothers looked great that day. Dennis was playing up a storm. Me crying when I found out that Dennis had died had nothing to do with a song, I was watching Tv at the time. I actually have photos from the presser the next day that I took of the Tv screen. I didn't have a VCR until 1984. I was more prepared for the news when Carl died. Didn't cry when I read about it in the paper. Was very sad, tho. That was the Sunday paper, he left us the Friday before. By 1998 nothing about the Boys was making the Tv news. Laura, thinking about the extreme loss I feel, that can make me cry while listening to one of her more emotional songs. So, if anyone, that's it. "Walk On By", for example. I was totally blind-sided by her death. She kept her illness private, didn't mention it at the concerts. She died on 8 April 1997. I had just got the 2-Cd set she had personally put together, s toned soul picnic: the best of laura nyro, for my Birthday (3rd April). Part of the liner notes are from a longer article in SongTalk magazine. Laura and Brian are my two favorite artists. Not too long after she died, I decided to move from San Francisco to Long Island, New York. I really wanted to make a big change in my life. By the time Carl passed I was staying at my mama's place and was busy shipping stuff every day, probably why it took a couple of days before I knew. It was a trip to move from one coast to the other. I wanted to live in the country, and now I do. John dying was emotional. He is my third favorite male singer, after Brian and Carl. But by then, there was a distance. I had bought some of the boots from his late seventies material that was leaking out from the Dakota, but nothing earth shaking. The Threedles did a great job in 1994/'95 on the two that were released, and now I have heard the third one - it's on YouTube - "Now and Then". The fourth one is the song I'm talking about, " Grow Old with Me". As far as we know, John wrote it and made the demo in November 1980. Yoko found the cassette with all four songs, with "for Paul" written on the cassette itself. If it wasn't faked, I have seen a picture of the actual cassette. Why would John have put those songs aside if he planned to record them with Yoko, as she said. I don't believe any of Yoko's stories. I'm not the only one. He was looking back on the old days in the last years of his life, and it is very easy for me to believe he thought of John and Paul as an old married couple. It was no secret Paul was wanting something to develop to bring them back into the studio. You know, I don't dig that deep in people's real life. I don't know how close John and Yoko were when he died. I have read she had a boyfriend, that they had both known for years. His name is Samuel Havadtoy. They made their relationship official in 1981. So, believe what you will...
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