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Post by Awesoman on Aug 17, 2023 9:01:59 GMT -5
This one hasn't been touched upon yet. Does anyone claim it as a favorite...? To this day I don't believe I've ever listened to this album in its entirety. It fits quite comfortably in the "forgettable" category; much like Paul McCartney's Valentine album 𝐾𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑠 𝑂𝑛 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝐵𝑜𝑡𝑡𝑜𝑚 that he put out a year later. I suppose hard-core Disney afionados and maybe children might get something out of this, but for me personally it just seems like a total afterthought. Also Brian and his band totally missed the boat on covering a song that would have been the perfect fit for them: "Little April Shower" from the 𝐵𝑎𝑚𝑏𝑖 movie. Listen to it below and tell me they couldn't pull a cool 𝑆𝑀𝑖𝐿𝐸 vibe off of that one. Check out Little April Shower (From "Bambi"/Soundtrack Version) by Amy Lou Barnes, Sally Mueller, Mary Moder, Alice Sixer, Betty Bayne & Disney Studio Chorus on Amazon Music music.amazon.com/albums/B001KRW44C?trackAsin=B001KRU2BE&do=play&ref=dm_sh_SSx0I6VUKz87qrEIOxOCMJql9 |
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Post by boogieboarder on Aug 17, 2023 9:08:12 GMT -5
I guess when I’m sick of all The Beach Boys albums and Brian Wilson albums, I’ll still have this one, which I’ve only heard once, to look forward to.
The truth is, there’s only one Brian Wilson album that I’ve tried and failed in several attempts to listen to all the way through, and that’s Orange Crate Art. I just can’t stand it. I don’t see why it’s acclaimed at all.
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Post by E on Aug 17, 2023 10:17:23 GMT -5
Best track was a bonus one: Peace on Earth - which would have fit nicely on his Christmas album
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Post by filledeplage on Aug 17, 2023 11:30:24 GMT -5
I guess when I’m sick of all The Beach Boys albums and Brian Wilson albums, I’ll still have this one, which I’ve only heard once, to look forward to. The truth is, there’s only one Brian Wilson album that I’ve tried and failed in several attempts to listen to all the way through, and that’s Orange Crate Art. I just can’t stand it. I don’t see why it’s acclaimed at all. It's Parks' tracks with Brian on them because Parks, allegedly, told Brian that he (Parks) could not stand the sound of his own voice and how he convinced Brian to do the vocals. Parks is generally a very good all-around composer, I think. I do like the instrumentation. I think it almost wants to be an art deco BB take-off. And it can't be. Someone else got there first. Best track, I think, is an instrumental called "Lullaby." Probably good for a movie score. It feels kind of Wondermint-y maybe, in spots, for the 90s era? I do like the cover art, very much. But it's really not a Brian album. |
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Aug 17, 2023 15:44:25 GMT -5
I think I played it once and then put it away. That was what, 12 years ago or so? I couldn’t believe how much I loved the Gershwin album and could care less about this one.
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Post by Rick Bartlett on Aug 17, 2023 17:11:19 GMT -5
Sadly it gets overlooked, because Brian's vocals are quite superior on this, spite the uninspiring material for him.
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Post by E on Aug 18, 2023 5:17:51 GMT -5
I think I played it once and then put it away. That was what, 12 years ago or so? I couldn’t believe how much I loved the Gershwin album and could care less about this one. That's where I am with this one too. |
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Post by Awesoman on Aug 18, 2023 9:01:17 GMT -5
I guess when I’m sick of all The Beach Boys albums and Brian Wilson albums, I’ll still have this one, which I’ve only heard once, to look forward to. The truth is, there’s only one Brian Wilson album that I’ve tried and failed in several attempts to listen to all the way through, and that’s Orange Crate Art. I just can’t stand it. I don’t see why it’s acclaimed at all. I've never listened to that album in full either but own a few tracks off of it. The title track "Orange Crate Art" is quite charming though. I also like "San Francisco" too although Brian's vocals are all over the place. |
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Post by John Manning on Aug 28, 2023 3:40:39 GMT -5
There are some beautiful moments on the Disney album, including some fine and consistent Brian vocals. The Hi Ho/Whistle While You Work medley is great fun; played it to my kids a lot when they were wee.
Difficult for any act to pull off Disney covers as the originals are so often unassailably definitive, but I enjoy this album a lot.
Album also features most of the classic BW Band line-up; always a good thing.
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Post by lonelysummer on Aug 28, 2023 22:12:04 GMT -5
Around the time of the Disney album, I felt that Brian was just making albums just to have something out there. Even the Gershwin album was questionable to me - why so many albums of Brian doing remakes of his old stuff, or doing other people's songs? BW88, Imagination, GIOMH, TLOS, NPP...during the same time span, Bob Dylan gave us Oh Mercy, Under the Red Sky, Time Out of Mind, Love & Theft, Modern Times, Together Through Life, Tempest; in addition to a few albums of Sinatra/GAS songs, and two acoustic albums.
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Post by Al S on Sept 2, 2023 1:24:13 GMT -5
Around the time of the Disney album, I felt that Brian was just making albums just to have something out there. Even the Gershwin album was questionable to me - why so many albums of Brian doing remakes of his old stuff, or doing other people's songs? BW88, Imagination, GIOMH, TLOS, NPP...during the same time span, Bob Dylan gave us Oh Mercy, Under the Red Sky, Time Out of Mind, Love & Theft, Modern Times, Together Through Life, Tempest; in addition to a few albums of Sinatra/GAS songs, and two acoustic albums. I guess it's kinda been his template since day dot - many BB albums have covers or remakes in some form, probably the only one from the Capitol era is Friends -although there was that iffy version of Little Red Book kicking around as per the Wake The World set; perhaps Gershwin and Disney are the inevitable destinations of his approach - with the encouragement of Disney picking up the tab. I like where you went with the Dylan contrast, although that guy has still to make amends for Christmas In The Heart, yikes! |
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Post by boogieboarder on Sept 2, 2023 9:52:41 GMT -5
According to Wikipedia (and I’m not vouching for accuracy),
“In the summer of 2009, Walt Disney Records approached Wilson about recording his own arrangements of songs from Disney films; however, Wilson first wanted to record an album of Gershwin covers, which the label agreed to support. He and band member Paul Mertens picked the songs to record based on Wilson's vocal range, and which ones he thought he could sing ‘appropriately.’ In addition to the covers, the Gershwin estate granted Wilson access to over 100 unfinished Gershwin songs and fragments for the project to use for new material. Two songs were completed by Wilson and Scott Bennett (who provided lyrics) mainly based on two fragments: "Will You Remember Me", which was originally written in 1924 for the musical Lady, Be Good, was completed as "The Like in I Love You", while "Say My Say", which was unfinished by the Gershwin brothers in 1929, was completed as "Nothing But Love.””
Well, that makes more sense than the story I think I remember reading at the time that the Gershwin estate approached Brian to complete some unfinished Gershwin songs. In my opinion, “Gershwin meets California Girls” doesn’t work at all, and I can’t really imagine that of all the songwriters (and singers) in the world in 2009, they would have approached Brian Wilson for their Gershwin song completion project.
But anyway, a record company with a budget and a bunch of old Disney songs approached Brian to do an album of said songs, and he agreed.
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Post by lonelysummer on Sept 2, 2023 14:30:40 GMT -5
Around the time of the Disney album, I felt that Brian was just making albums just to have something out there. Even the Gershwin album was questionable to me - why so many albums of Brian doing remakes of his old stuff, or doing other people's songs? BW88, Imagination, GIOMH, TLOS, NPP...during the same time span, Bob Dylan gave us Oh Mercy, Under the Red Sky, Time Out of Mind, Love & Theft, Modern Times, Together Through Life, Tempest; in addition to a few albums of Sinatra/GAS songs, and two acoustic albums. I guess it's kinda been his template since day dot - many BB albums have covers or remakes in some form, probably the only one from the Capitol era is Friends -although there was that iffy version of Little Red Book kicking around as per the Wake The World set; perhaps Gershwin and Disney are the inevitable destinations of his approach - with the encouragement of Disney picking up the tab. I like where you went with the Dylan contrast, although that guy has still to make amends for Christmas In The Heart, yikes! Yeah, I found that unlistenable. I liked the first album of GAS songs, but Triplicate was overkill. |
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Post by Awesoman on Sept 6, 2023 6:47:55 GMT -5
I guess it's kinda been his template since day dot - many BB albums have covers or remakes in some form, probably the only one from the Capitol era is Friends -although there was that iffy version of Little Red Book kicking around as per the Wake The World set; perhaps Gershwin and Disney are the inevitable destinations of his approach - with the encouragement of Disney picking up the tab. I like where you went with the Dylan contrast, although that guy has still to make amends for Christmas In The Heart, yikes! Yeah, I found that unlistenable. I liked the first album of GAS songs, but Triplicate was overkill. Dylan's recent 𝑆ℎ𝑎𝑑𝑜𝑤 𝐾𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑑𝑜𝑚 album where he covers modern versions of his old songs is actually pretty good and Dylan is in pretty good voice here. |
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Post by Awesoman on Sept 6, 2023 6:52:48 GMT -5
I'll give this album a little credit: I do at least like the intro to "When You Wish Upon A Star" where you can clearly hear the influence this song had on "Surfer Girl". Other than that there really isn't much else to say. Billy Joel had a fantastic cover of this song years ago that's worth seeking out:
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Post by boogieboarder on Sept 6, 2023 9:37:32 GMT -5
I do what George Harrison said he did. I buy all Dylan’s new albums out of loyalty, but I never listen to them.
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Post by E on Sept 6, 2023 12:39:28 GMT -5
I enjoyed Christmas in the Heart - much more than Together Through Life and Modern Times, which were just Love and Theft (which is great) re-heated.
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Post by lonelysummer on Sept 7, 2023 21:57:36 GMT -5
I do what George Harrison said he did. I buy all Dylan’s new albums out of loyalty, but I never listen to them. I'm sure George listened to them. After all, he agreed to work with Grumpy Old Bob in the Wilburys. He sang "If You Belonged to Me" in his last tv appearance. |
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Post by Awesoman on Sept 8, 2023 8:18:28 GMT -5
I do what George Harrison said he did. I buy all Dylan’s new albums out of loyalty, but I never listen to them. I'm sure George listened to them. After all, he agreed to work with Grumpy Old Bob in the Wilburys. He sang "If You Belonged to Me" in his last tv appearance. He co-wrote that song with Dylan I believe. And I do love Dylan's Christmas album almost primarily because he inexplicably recorded one. "Must Be Santa" gets a lot of plays at my pad during the holiday season. |
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Post by bessieboporbach on Sept 24, 2023 20:24:22 GMT -5
I couldn’t believe how much I loved the Gershwin album and could care less about this one. Same, I was quite surprised at how uninspired I found most of the Disney album since there are some very good songs in that repertoire. I was flabbergasted that "Colors of the Wind" was included on the Best Of/Anthology CD, but admittedly it is a lovely vocal and maybe that was the main criterion for inclusion. I do however think that "Baby Mine" is beautiful. "When You Wish..." and "A Dream Is a Wish Your Heart Makes" are also both worthwhile. But most of the rest of the record is just unspectacular songs given unremarkable arrangements, which is absolutely not the case with the Gershwin album. Clearly Brian and Paul had their hearts in the Gershwin project but not this one, not to the same degree anyway. I have played the album quite a bit over the years, but usually as a thing to fall asleep to on long bus rides. I do find it interesting historically as one of several weird little outliers in Brian's solo career, an album I'm still surprised even exists and which even most fans seem never to have heard. I wonder if it would be discussed more nowadays if it hadn't been completely steamrolled at the time by the Smile Sessions, which was released, what, 3 weeks later or something like that? Kind of like GIOMH and Presents Smile. And then of course the reunion happened almost immediately after and That's Why God... was so great and it was tempting to see the Lucky Old Sun - Gershwin - Radio period as a late purple patch in Brian's career, overlooking the Disney LP. It was all happening so fast then. |
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