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Post by AGD on Jan 19, 2019 3:49:19 GMT -5
Just for the yucks, I've counted up Brian's themed shows down the years*. Here y'go. Pet Sounds 1 (2000) - 37 Pet Sounds 2 (2002) - 34 BWPS (2004-05) - 91 Pet Sounds 3 (2006-07) - 10 [40th Anniversary]
TLOS (2007-09) - 31
BWRG (2011) - 24
Pet Sounds 4 (2016-19) - 214 [50th Anniversary/"Final" Performances] Christmas Album (2018) - 17
Pet Sounds (2000-19) - 295, or 39.9% of the total shows he's played since 1998. No wonder he's fed up with it...
[* includes shows scheduled for this year]
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Post by andrewhickey on Jan 19, 2019 10:25:36 GMT -5
Wow. I hadn't really clicked *just how many* of these "final" Pet Sounds shows there have been, compared to the original numbers. He's probably played "Pet Sounds" in its entirety more times in just the last three years than I've listened to it in the last twenty-four since I first heard it. I'd be sleepwalking through it too if I had to do that...
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Post by lonesurf on Jan 19, 2019 14:27:40 GMT -5
Thanks Andrew. I love the data!
My thoughts:
Pet Sounds is great.
That being said, I have come to believe that it was a big .... and very easy ... mistake for the managers to continually flog this one work at the expense of everything else Brian has ever done.
It has led to a shallow critical reverence for this one album at the expense of everything else in The Beach Boys canon, meaning that it has become very convenient for younger journalists and critics to now dismiss the band with faint praise without ever truly examining the catalog. In addition, I have come to believe that keeping the attention on primarily Pet Sounds has hurt the band's legacy more than helped it. Quite frankly, the younger people that I know now think of the band as an artistic one-trick pony. Save for Smile, there has been little consistent effort to comprehensively present the true artistry of Brian Wilson.
Just because Pet Sounds tours can run on autopilot doesn't mean that they should have made up almost 40% of Brian's special shows.
Easy money up front, but an erosion of a respect for the total catalog on the back end.
Just my $.02.
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Post by John Manning on Jan 19, 2019 15:03:41 GMT -5
It has led to a shallow critical reverence for this one album at the expense of everything else in The Beach Boys canon, meaning that it has become very convenient for younger journalists and critics to now dismiss the band with faint praise without ever truly examining the catalog. In addition, I have come to believe that keeping the attention on primarily Pet Sounds has hurt the band's legacy more than helped it. Quite frankly, the younger people that I know now think of the band as an artistic one-trick pony. Save for Smile, there has been little consistent effort to comprehensively present the true artistry of Brian Wilson. While there might be truth in that, Mark Linett and Alan Boyd are doing a fabulous job of correcting it with the CopEx releases, which really do reveal the mastery and genius of Brian and The Beach Boys. Really wish the releases were getting proper promotion (and that we could have the Tour set in the U.K.!). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 15:53:11 GMT -5
Id have given anything to see a Love You live performance, but it's probably too late now
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 17:36:15 GMT -5
Id have given anything to see a Love You live performance, but it's probably too late now Never say never.  |
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Post by AGD on Jan 19, 2019 17:52:12 GMT -5
Id have given anything to see a Love You live performance, but it's probably too late now Never say never. I will, then. Brian's simply not capable of carrying a whole show any more. I was hoping most sincerely that the "new" Christmas material would engage and energise him, but it plainly didn't. I would have given a major organ to see a Love You - live !, but not without Brian carrying his full load of vocals. |
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Post by Emdeeh on Jan 19, 2019 18:36:54 GMT -5
And I'd like to see a Wild Honey tour...
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