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Post by John Manning on Jan 15, 2019 20:44:14 GMT -5
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Post by Mikie on Jan 15, 2019 21:22:23 GMT -5
"I love to hear Schilling’s stories about The Beach Boys. He was a friend of the late Dennis Wilson, the drummer. “He drowned in Marina del Rey. He was looking for his furniture he threw off his boat when the IRS was coming to seize it. When he came up, he hit his head on the boat."
Hmmmm. Really?
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Post by craigslowinski on Jan 15, 2019 22:34:19 GMT -5
"I love to hear Schilling’s stories about The Beach Boys. He was a friend of the late Dennis Wilson, the drummer. “He drowned in Marina del Rey. He was looking for his furniture he threw off his boat when the IRS was coming to seize it. When he came up, he hit his head on the boat."
Hmmmm. Really?Well, I recall that the autopsy did reveal a gash on his head. |
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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Jan 15, 2019 22:39:28 GMT -5
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Post by John Manning on Jan 16, 2019 1:30:02 GMT -5
I think these are two separate productions - one about Brian, produced by Brent Wilson, with Jason Fine riding shotgun as Brian drives around LA, and the other about the Beach Boys, executive-produced by Jerry Schilling, along the lines of some Elvis doc he’s done recently. Apologies for the earlier messed up and truncated post – my iPhone was misbehaving badly, which seems to happen whenever I’ve visited the Rolling Stone website. |
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Post by kds on Jan 16, 2019 2:19:22 GMT -5
The idea of a new BB doc is pretty exciting. Especially if it expands on the great EH doc.
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Post by jonstebbins on Jan 16, 2019 12:38:23 GMT -5
"I love to hear Schilling’s stories about The Beach Boys. He was a friend of the late Dennis Wilson, the drummer. “He drowned in Marina del Rey. He was looking for his furniture he threw off his boat when the IRS was coming to seize it. When he came up, he hit his head on the boat."
Hmmmm. Really?Well, I recall that the autopsy did reveal a gash on his head. I think what Mikie is getting at is that it's hard to hit your head on a boat in '83 that hasn't been there since '81. But this is probably just a case of chronological context not being added by the writer. Jerry probably isn't insinuating that Dennis hit his head on the Harmony, just a boat (The Emerald). So the IRS was coming in '81, Dennis threw his possessions off the Harmony so they wouldn't seize that stuff too, in '83 he's looking for it, and hit his head on his friend's boat. Could be true-ish. But probably isn't. But I won't tell Jerry. Great guy, nice guy, but don't rile him. The last time I tried to tell Jerry his recollection was wrong about something, it didn't go too well for me.  |
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Post by Mikie on Jan 16, 2019 13:45:15 GMT -5
Jon, that's exactly what I was getting at, but didn't want to reply to Craig at the risk of derailing the thread and 'opening a can of worms'. Other than the obvious cause of accidental drowning related to intoxication, there's other factors surrounding the cause of Dennis' death that will always be speculative.
1. Looking at a page off the autopsy report, you see: "Head trauma - less than one week - mild to moderate severity - non lethal." As we know, a few days before his death, Dennis was in a fight with Shawn's boyfriend and was beaten severely." I'm not concluding that the reason for this gash was the result of the fight (or another reason) but quite possibly.
2. The only boat Dennis could have hit his head on was Bill Oster's boat "The Emerald". As Jon indicated, doubtful. Dennis was diving in 10-15 feet of water adjacent to the Emerald in an empty boat slip. If anything, he hit his head on the dock. Oster was right there and even saw bubbles but didn't hear any "bump" indicating that Dennis hit his head on the dock (or elsewhere).
3. First time ever that I've heard/read that Dennis was diving for furniture. I think Dennis told Oster he was looking for a toolbox or "a chest full of gold or silver dollars" or something like that. I think he came up once with a framed picture of Karen that he'd thrown overboard a couple of years before.
4. The diminished lung capacity caused by repeated dives.....and hypothermia. Very logical explanations. Another reason - "He just curled up near the bottom and did himself in". I doubt the suicide angle, but we'll never know for sure.
Again.....all speculative. Only the drowning was definitive.
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Post by Mikie on Jan 16, 2019 13:51:39 GMT -5
Next up: Debunking JFK assassination conspiracy theories, concluding that Oswald acted alone.
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