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Post by Awesoman on Oct 24, 2022 8:11:26 GMT -5
This Don Was effort (along with the excellent documentary he directed for this) is a pretty swell, if somewhat forgotten, little gem that did contribute to the revival of Brian's mostly stable and consistent recording career. It's an intimate and polished (with maybe the exception of Brian's vocals) reading of a number of choice compositions from Brian over the years in a more stripped down format. The two tracks he covers from his 1988 solo album sound even better here with a production that has aged gracefully over the dated and sterile original versions. And while some of the covers including "Caroline, No", "Let The Wind Blow" and "'Til I Die" won't overtake the original versions, they do at least compliment them pretty well. And it's delightful to have Carnie and Wendy show up for "Do It Again". Perhaps the only track that falters for me is "The Warmth of The Sun"; it just doesn't really work.
Too bad the band (the Beach Boys that is) couldn't really get it together back then when Was had been interested in producing an album for them. It could have been a nice "comeback" album of sorts similar to the kind of stuff Rick Rubin would eventually do with Johnny Cash.
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Post by jk on Oct 24, 2022 15:02:17 GMT -5
I recall reading in Paul Williams' book How Deep Is The Ocean? that he regarded IJWMFTT as the best album of 1995. So I took him at face value and went out and bought it. Regrettably it left me cold, aside from the bonus track, a harrowing demo of "Still I Dream Of It", which is still my favourite version. Maybe one should watch the documentary (most of which I now see is * here*) and listen to the music in that context. I don't know. At all events, I find it impossible to rate as an album.
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Post by boogieboarder on Oct 24, 2022 17:44:02 GMT -5
When I first heard this, I thought that the arrangements were stripped down to nothing, losing the magic and genius of Brian Wilson's originals. It left me with no desire to seek out Don Was and hear anything else he has done, and I never have. This was the first LP in seven years, after the fabulous debut album, leading me to think Brian was a spent force of declining mental health. Imagination didn't help change my mind much after he finally got out from under the thumb of Landy. Now, after a dozen more mostly excellent albums and tours, this album doesn't bother me as much. It's just a curiosity on the road between 1962 and 2022.
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Post by jk on Oct 26, 2022 14:58:30 GMT -5
I plan to watch this on Friday, maybe even tonight:
According to uploader DJ L33, "The only thing I couldn't post here is the full audio of Do It Again with Wendy and Carny for some reason."
I don't know quite what he means by "full audio", or even where it occurs, but here's that version of "Do It Again" if required:
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Post by jk on Oct 26, 2022 16:27:04 GMT -5
I plan to watch this on Friday, maybe even tonight:According to uploader DJ L33, "The only thing I couldn't post here is the full audio of Do It Again with Wendy and Carny for some reason." I don't know quite what he means by "full audio", or even where it occurs, but here's that version of "Do It Again" if required: And I just did! It all falls into place, you know, when you hear and see the recreated music in context. Gosh, everyone was young in those days! As for "Do It Again", just before the bridge it segues abruptly into Brian talking about Danny Hutton, so no big deal really. Well, my vote is for the whole thing. It's not in the "movies" section so I can only vote for it here. Lots of special moments, too many to list here. Cool to see AGD's name in the credits! I thought it was a wonderfully warm listening and watching experience. Ten.
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Post by Rick Bartlett on Oct 26, 2022 22:56:22 GMT -5
Great memories of when the documentary and the album was released. The documentary came out at the right time for a Brian Wilson fan who wanted to see him do good and find his place in the world again. It's been a trip following and being side by side with him over the last couple of decades. I'm very proud of the big fella.... At the time, the soundtrack album was impossible to find here in Australia, so I had to get it imported at a local music store, and it feels like it took 3 or 4 months to arrive, which it probably was at the time, and very expensive. It's hard to imagine these days just what we paid for CD's that were Imports especially.... I loved the album, apart from the fact I thought it was too short, but that just made me replay the disc again. Still love to listen to it when I play it, and I really dig the low key arrangements on 'The Warmth Of The Sun' and 'Caroline No' now more than ever. Brian's vocal falsetto 'oooooh' in the bridge of 'This Whole World' still gives me goosebumps. Both the documentary and soundtrack are a great little time piece of Brian at this time of his life, wonderfully captured and the ending is left hanging almost as if to say, 'I'm just getting started'. 9/10
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Post by AGD on Oct 27, 2022 1:36:10 GMT -5
I plan to watch this on Friday, maybe even tonight:According to uploader DJ L33, "The only thing I couldn't post here is the full audio of Do It Again with Wendy and Carny for some reason." I don't know quite what he means by "full audio", or even where it occurs, but here's that version of "Do It Again" if required: And I just did! It all falls into place, you know, when you hear and see the recreated music in context. Gosh, everyone was young in those days! As for "Do It Again", just before the bridge it segues abruptly into Brian talking about Danny Hutton, so no big deal really. Well, my vote is for the whole thing. It's not in the "movies" section so I can only vote for it here. Lots of special moments, too many to list here. Cool to see AGD's name in the credits! I thought it was a wonderfully warm listening and watching experience. Ten. The producers called me when I was visiting US friends (and they were mightily impressed !) to do one very specific bit of research: find the ad that Nash (or maybe it was Crosby) mention was placed in the UK music press by Stones manager Oldham say "buy this album", said album being Pet Sounds. So why don't you see it just after whoever mentions it ? Because it doesn't exist. I spent two days in the Colindale Newspaper library going through the UK muric press for all of 1966. Nada. Zip. Zilch. They still paid me, and also funded my copying everything I could find about said album at that time, which explains my subsequent credit in the 1997 Pet Sounds Sessions box. Turns out someone was misremembering an ad Oldham did place... for the original version of "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" over the Cilla Black cover (and it worked: it went to #1), in 1964.
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Post by jk on Oct 27, 2022 5:36:15 GMT -5
The producers called me when I was visiting US friends (and they were mightily impressed !) to do one very specific bit of research: find the ad that Nash (or maybe it was Crosby) mention was placed in the UK music press by Stones manager Oldham say "buy this album", said album being Pet Sounds. So why don't you see it just after whoever mentions it ? Because it doesn't exist. I spent two days in the Colindale Newspaper library going through the UK muric press for all of 1966. Nada. Zip. Zilch. They still paid me, and also funded my copying everything I could find about said album at that time, which explains my subsequent credit in the 1997 Pet Sounds Sessions box. Turns out someone was misremembering an ad Oldham did place... for the original version of "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" over the Cilla Black cover (and it worked: it went to #1), in 1964. Thanks for this. It was Nash who brought up the subject. (He also wondered whether "In My Room" was released in 1965 or maybe even after Pet Sounds!) I do recall The Righteous Brothers steaming past Cilla in the UK charts to #1. The wording of the ad looks familiar too -- here (the third item down). What a heart-warming documentary. It's wonderful to see the likes of this surfacing on YouTube...
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Post by lonelysummer on Nov 15, 2022 22:22:59 GMT -5
I plan to watch this on Friday, maybe even tonight:According to uploader DJ L33, "The only thing I couldn't post here is the full audio of Do It Again with Wendy and Carny for some reason." I don't know quite what he means by "full audio", or even where it occurs, but here's that version of "Do It Again" if required: And I just did! It all falls into place, you know, when you hear and see the recreated music in context. Gosh, everyone was young in those days! It's funny to me that you have that reaction now, because at the time, I thought "gosh, Brian looks OLD now!" I hadn't seen anything of Brian since the separation from Landy, and as I feared, he had put on a lot of weight again. And I thought Melinda was a pretty woman - a surfer girl! The album itself I love, except for that demo of Still I Dream of it, dropped into the middle to disrupt the listening experience.
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Post by boogieboarder on Nov 15, 2022 23:25:34 GMT -5
No matter how old you are, take a new photo, put it away for 20 years, then take it out and marvel at how young you looked.
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Post by Awesoman on Nov 16, 2022 8:56:06 GMT -5
No matter how old you are, take a new photo, put it away for 20 years, then take it out and marvel at how young you looked. Yeah he did look a lot younger back then and seemed a lot more "with it" during this time. Oddly enough though his vocals during this era were still pretty rough sounding. Still yelling a lot of vocals. It wasn't until a few years later with πΌπππππππ‘πππ (and probably some digital sweetening or enhancement in the post production) where vocally Brian started singing a lot better again (well at least in the studio).
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Post by boogieboarder on Nov 16, 2022 11:51:43 GMT -5
No matter how old you are, take a new photo, put it away for 20 years, then take it out and marvel at how young you looked. Yeah he did look a lot younger back then and seemed a lot more "with it" during this time. Oddly enough though his vocals during this era were still pretty rough sounding. Still yelling a lot of vocals. It wasn't until a few years later with πΌπππππππ‘πππ (and probably some digital sweetening or enhancement in the post production) where vocally Brian started singing a lot better again (well at least in the studio). I remember reading something about Brian taking voice lessons around that time.
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Post by lonelysummer on Nov 16, 2022 21:44:51 GMT -5
No matter how old you are, take a new photo, put it away for 20 years, then take it out and marvel at how young you looked. But the shock was how much his appearance had changed between 1991 and 1995. A lot heavier, for one thing. Whatever one thinks of Landy, he did work miracles physically with Brian. Got him looking like a real surfer dude! The Brian I see in IJWMFTT reminds me of the 1976/77 Brian, but with short hair and minus the beard.
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