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Post by Al Smith on Jun 24, 2020 23:02:35 GMT -5
The ratings are in, the people have spoken, the result of 14 voters pitching in is a 50% enjoyment factor (7 voters rating 6 and above), indicating some of us find this song very ho-Humbert.
0 - 3 votes
2 - 1 vote
3 - 1 vote
4 - 1 vote
5 - 1 vote
6 - 3 votes
7 - 1 vote
8 - 1 vote
9 - 1 vote
10 - 1 vote
Thanks always for the discussion and getting in their with your opinions and contextual offerings and additional Youtube etc stuff - keep up the good work, peeps!
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 24, 2020 23:18:49 GMT -5
I keep showing up late! I was the lone 8/10. It's a good song, but Brian had better material that didn't get a fair and official release.
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Post by Al Smith on Jun 24, 2020 23:22:31 GMT -5
Continuing our Adult/Child exploration, we come to Deep Purple, a massive instrumental hit in Big Band form in 1934, a year after it's initial publishing - it was so dang popular that lyrics were conjured up in 1938.
The song itself was a perennial pop favourite tackled by many artists of various styles, including no less than Donny and Marie in 1975 - I would imagine this was a typical number that would get regularly trotted at the regular Love/Wilson clan sing-a-longs, thus ripe for a BW centric covering.
I wish they'd gone back and gotten Brian to take another crack at some point - it's pretty well handled from an instrumental perspective - I like the kick drum and the flange-y guitar sound - the mood is nice and you can see where B-Dub wanted to take it.
However, it's vocally too shoddy for things to gel and really take off, so I can't go higher than a 7.
Here's the Donny and Marie version. Perhaps Brian was trying to make right for their heinous misdemeanours.
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Post by dant on Jun 25, 2020 4:37:43 GMT -5
I’ll give this one an 8, it is quite a nice version of this song and I obviously like the big band instrumentation on it. I also like the heavily flanged synthesiser sound that can heard here and on another couple of Adult-Child tracks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 5:29:54 GMT -5
Deep purple- I think this one would have been awesome in more of the 15 BO/Love You production style. Synth bass could have been cool on this one. Anyway, I’ll go with a 6 for this version. Vocals needed more work
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Post by jk on Jun 25, 2020 6:08:02 GMT -5
Yes, I gave "HLT" a miss--not in the mood for that one (probably never in the mood for that one).
I like "Deep Purple" though. I'm old enough to remember the US #1 version from 1963 by Nino Tempo & April Stevens:
It's more than likely Brian remembered those backing vocal "stabs" in the tag when he arranged "The Man With All The Toys".
I do like Brian's Sinatra-style take on it. Ten.
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Post by filledeplage on Jun 25, 2020 7:52:27 GMT -5
This one started life during the “Love You” sessions. Along with “Roller Skating Child”, a revisited theme - see "All Dressed Up For School". Brian says, “So she's a little tomboy. We're very happy with it." Carlin suggested the song "may be the most unsettling moment in the entire recorded history of the Beach Boys." If you were the parent of a young girl, hearing something along the lines of "Now let's put a dress on and wear a little make up. OK, shave your legs now for the first time", you'd feel embarrassed, disgusted, and ashamed all at the same time. That's something Uncle Pervy would say. The released version is one thing, but this Adult Child demo is even more cringe worthy. I can imagine what Warner's exec's faces looked like when they first heard this. Probably knew right away that it was not for public consumption. I wonder if they even got past this second track. Nice music and melody though. The vocals were good too. And even though it was a little weird for middle-aged men to sing it, they actually got into it. Especially Brian, who was always infatuated with young girls. Uncle Pervy would be the problem not the aspiring boyfriend. Uncle Pervy thinks because he is a member of the family that he can cross the lines. This is not that. The boy knows that someone in the girl's family will kick his butt if he gets out of line. They were not called shot-gun weddings for nothing. It is almost in the same courtship genre as The Waltz - from Van Dyke Parks, an absolutely simple, but genius snapshot of that post WWII era. "Back at that high school cotillion..." In the dance hall, or school gymnasium were dances were held, girls were on one side and boys, on the other. And lots of fear of being rejected, maybe on both walls. There used to be dances at a local Christian school, chaperoned by priests and teachers in the 60's and if you were caught dancing too closely together, you would be approached by "Father" who would tell you to "leave room for the Holy Ghost." They did not want the wrath of the parents. Yes, a big difference between that late 50's to mid-to-late 60's where things just pretty upended with the big sexual revolution, and by the late 70's things had changed dramatically. But Brian's lens is from his frame-of-reference, looking back and a kind of yesteryear. They were still in their 30's, relatively not near middle age. It is a throwback and sometime during the Middle Ages, Andreas Capellanus (the Chaplain) wrote The Art of Courtly Love. faculty.goucher.edu/eng330/andreas_capellanus.htm |
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Post by Emdeeh on Jun 25, 2020 11:14:17 GMT -5
I am definitely NOT a fan of Sinatra-styled recordings, so I'm giving "Deep Purple" a three. If Brian & co. had taken an approach closer to Tempo and Stevens' version, I would rate it higher.
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Post by Mikie on Jun 25, 2020 11:24:58 GMT -5
Another cover song, and one of the best cuts on the album. I right like it. Brian was quite aware of this one growing up. The second most popular version was #1 in November, 1963, when he was watching the trades closely for Beach Boys chart position. Like "Life Is For The Living", the orchestra for this song was led by Dick Reynolds and recorded at Western. It’s beautiful. Brian’s cigarette/coke laced vocal ain’t bad either. A 10ski.
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Post by mfp on Jun 25, 2020 19:20:23 GMT -5
Love the instrumentation and Brian's crooning style
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Post by Al Smith on Jun 25, 2020 21:35:15 GMT -5
Hot news just in, Deep Purple has a 56% enjoyment rating amongst our gang!
Always interesting to get the numbers in, as it's the cheerleader types around here who are usually the most vocal; I'd love to hear more from the low voters, your perspectives are most welcome.
Here's the breakdown:
3 - 3 votes
4 - 3 votes
5 - 1 vote
6 - 1 vote
7 - 1 vote
8 - 2 votes
9 - 1 vote
10 - 4 votes
I'm just off to Subway for a foot long, I'll unleash the next beast when I get back.
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Post by Al Smith on Jun 25, 2020 22:34:34 GMT -5
<Burp>
Hi all - H.E.L.P. Is On The Way, and coincidentally, we'll today be discussing a song with those same words in it's title.
A deep dive from the can, this track hails from August 17, 1970 and was included on the 2nd Warner Brothers LP master assembled in September of the same year.
Despite the reference to enemas, this song is far from scraping the bottom of the barrel as it reels off the menu items from the titular restaurant frequented by the group back in the day to a nice groove buoyed by bass playing similar to that on I'd Love Just Once To See You, and some cool backing vocals.
However, it's ironic that a song about healthy eating is itself a little under baked and could have benefited from a second pass.
8.
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Post by dant on Jun 26, 2020 5:19:51 GMT -5
I’ll give this a 7, it is a nice song, but somehow, I think there is room for improvement.
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Post by Fall Breaks on Jun 26, 2020 6:07:31 GMT -5
However, it's ironic that a song about healthy eating is itself a little under baked and could have benefited from a second pass. Raw food? 8 from me. |
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Post by jk on Jun 26, 2020 7:10:53 GMT -5
Haha. Any song whose very first words are "Stark naked" is just screaming for a ten from me. I was introduced to this one by the absolutely excellent Thirty Years box set, whose version doesn't fade out before the "Radiant Radish" plug: |
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Post by Mikie on Jun 26, 2020 13:41:22 GMT -5
"Help Is On The Way" - written by B. Wilson. Recorded a couple of weeks before the Sunflower album came out and intended for “Landlocked”, an album Desper says never existed. Brian's "H.E.L.P. Is On the Way" was written about H.E.L.P., a Los Angeles restaurant that the Beach Boys frequented, and at the fade, mentions the Radiant Radish health food store on Fairfax and 3rd in Los Angeles. It was issued many years later on the '93 Capitol boxed set, Good Vibrations: 30 Years of the Beach Boys. I'll give it a score it deserves.....
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Post by mfp on Jun 26, 2020 17:36:24 GMT -5
The coda including Carl's "Fairfax and 3rd", Daryl Dragon's honky tonk playing and Al Jardine's responses make for a delightful tune.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 17:40:45 GMT -5
For 60s Brian work, it’s pretty weak. For 70s output, it’s pretty dreadful. Plods along with banal lyrics and the chorus falls flat.I guess the harmonies are alright. This isn’t music I ever really want to listen to though
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 26, 2020 17:54:13 GMT -5
The coda including Carl's "Fairfax and 3rd", Daryl Dragon's honky tonk playing and Al Jardine's responses make for a delightful tune.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 26, 2020 18:07:26 GMT -5
"Help Is On The Way" - written by Wilson and Love - Mike sings lead and probably wrote most of the words. Recorded a couple of weeks before the Sunflower album came out and intended for “Landlocked”, an album Desper says never existed. It’s about getting in shape with the H.E.L.P. (Radiant Radish) health food store on Fairfax and 3rd. in Los Angeles. It was issued way later on the '93 Capitol boxed set, Good Vibrations: 30 Years of the Beach Boys. I'll give it a score it deserves..... I thought Brian wrote the song, he gets the credit on the GV box. One of the ones Mike tried to claim in his "I need my credits" court case? I've never seen the complete list. Don't doubt it, tho. Most of it sounds like Mike. I'll take "Hey Little Tomboy" (either version) over "H.E.L.P. Is on the Way". I don't think it fits the mood of Adult/Child. For a Mike/Brian song that would fit, I'd pick "When Girls Get Together". |
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Post by Mikie on Jun 26, 2020 18:29:35 GMT -5
"Help Is On The Way" - written by Wilson and Love - Mike sings lead and probably wrote most of the words. Recorded a couple of weeks before the Sunflower album came out and intended for “Landlocked”, an album Desper says never existed. It’s about getting in shape with the H.E.L.P. (Radiant Radish) health food store on Fairfax and 3rd. in Los Angeles. It was issued way later on the '93 Capitol boxed set, Good Vibrations: 30 Years of the Beach Boys. I'll give it a score it deserves..... I thought Brian wrote the song, he gets the credit on the GV box. You're right, per two sources, Mr. Fact Checker. Not only that, but some other stuff I just edited. |
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Jun 26, 2020 18:47:55 GMT -5
I gave H.E.L.P. a 7. Musically, it is definitely of the times (early 70’s). The lyrics has all of the then diet-speak. I remember when avoiding cyclamates was all the rage.  |
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Post by Autotune on Jun 26, 2020 20:58:38 GMT -5
HELP: song quality does not justify its ubiquitousness.
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Post by Al Smith on Jun 26, 2020 21:32:52 GMT -5
Well, we like as opposed to love this one it seems. While 99% of 18 voters rating 6 or above, it only scraped in as enjoyable with 2/3rds of the population voting 6 or 7:
3 - 1 vote
6 - 6
7 - 6
8 - 3
10 - 2
Stay tuned for the next great installment in our Adult/Child poll.
Fabulous comments and contributions as well, thanks for supporting this Thread!
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 26, 2020 22:52:16 GMT -5
I thought Brian wrote the song, he gets the credit on the GV box. You're right, per two sources, Mr. Fact Checker. Not only that, but some other stuff I just edited. Maybe Brian was trying to write "Mike style".  I have more questions about Wild Honey lyrics than about this minor track. |
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I have more questions about Wild Honey lyrics than about this minor track.