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Post by Al Smith on Jun 9, 2020 19:11:44 GMT -5
Hi all - welcome (back) to our discussion and rating of The Beach Boys songs - day by day.
We continue with Ding Dang, the quirky side 1 closer of 1977's Love You, music by Brian and lyrics by Roger (The Byrds) McGuinn crafted at Roger's pad after a couple bennies and a beer.
A 7 from me - It's a bit of light fun with some great vocal energy from the band, especially Carl. Nothing major musically, historically it's a prime example of Brian's single tune obsessions (it's perhaps a path to Shortenin' Bread).
AGD once wrote - "A late 1973 recording and yes, it's fluff (and yes, it's that McGuinn). Amusing, once, and above all, short. Love enters the party spirit."
Over to y'all for your insights!
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Post by filledeplage on Jun 9, 2020 20:01:51 GMT -5
Kinda crazy...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 20:08:34 GMT -5
Alan, as per usual your insights are well-written and spot on. Big thanks for picking up the polling duties.
I find Ding Dang to be exhilarating and fun. I’ve never tried cocaine but it strikes me as a song that may have been written on that or a similar substance. Reminiscent of a wild night in Vegas or something to that effect. Sometimes this album as a whole feels like a drug trip. Honkin then Ding Dang are when the dopamine is flowing highest. Then things slow down a bit and turn somewhat self-reflective on side 2. The ‘come down’ if you will. Thankfully it’s not a crash and burn, side 2 is my favorite. But I was always more of the introspective type anyway.
Hmm well I’ll been rambling on a bit here so let me just conclude with a succinct 7/10 some spirited fun and mercifully not too long given the repetitiveness (looking at you Mona)
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Post by Al Smith on Jun 9, 2020 20:38:25 GMT -5
Alan, as per usually your insights are well-written and spot on. Big thanks for picking up the polling duties. I find Ding Dang to be exhilarating and fun. I’ve never tried cocaine but it strikes me as a song that may have been written on that or a similar substance. Reminiscent of a wild night in Vegas or something to that effect. Sometimes this album as a whole feels like a drug trip. Honkin then Ding Dang are when the dopamine is flowing highest. Then things slow down a bit and turn somewhat self-reflective on side 2. The ‘come down’ if you will. Thankfully it’s not a crash and burn, side 2 is my favorite. But I was always more of the introspective type anyway. Hmm well I’ll been rambling on a bit here so let me just conclude with a succinct 7/10 some spirited fun and mercifully not too long given the repetitiveness (looking at you Mona) Speed, apparently, according to Roger Biphetamine 20 or something (I wouldn't know, officer) - the story is after a couple of hours of banging away at the song with Brian, Rog went to bed, then when he awoke the next day, Brian was still banging away at the piano - how Vegas is that!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 20:48:05 GMT -5
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Post by Mikie on Jun 9, 2020 21:50:24 GMT -5
Coke was Brian's go-to from about 1968 onward. And no, I don't mean Coca-Cola. He was snorting hog rails on and off throughout the 70's and early 80's.
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Post by Al Smith on Jun 9, 2020 22:45:50 GMT -5
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 9, 2020 23:42:44 GMT -5
Love those . posts. I've been listening to some of the alternate tracks today.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 9, 2020 23:59:27 GMT -5
Hi all - welcome (back) to our discussion and rating of The Beach Boys songs - day by day. We continue with Ding Dang, the quirky side 1 closer of 1977's Love You, music by Brian and lyrics by Roger (The Byrds) McGuinn crafted at Roger's pad after a couple bennies and a beer. A 7 from me - It's a bit of light fun with some great vocal energy from the band, especially Carl. Nothing major musically, historically it's a prime example of Brian's single tune obsessions (it's perhaps a path to Shortenin' Bread). AGD once wrote - "A late 1973 recording and yes, it's fluff (and yes, it's that McGuinn). Amusing, once, and above all, short. Love enters the party spirit." Over to y'all for your insights! Hey Alan, good to have you here. Thanks for doing this. I love the track, but only rate it 6/10. Glad it's short. Like one of those old "this is the end of side one" sing- a-long coda tracks you'd get sometimes. When vinyl records were really popular. And we get 7 songs each side. How refreshing, and British.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 10, 2020 0:34:13 GMT -5
please, turn me over...
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 10, 2020 0:40:12 GMT -5
Coke was Brian's go-to from about 1968 onward. And no, I don't mean Coca-Cola. He was snorting hog rails on and off throughout the 70's and early 80's. What would Nancy say?
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Post by Beach Boys Fan on Jun 10, 2020 0:43:32 GMT -5
DD is too short & inferior than everything else in album to appreciate haha.
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Post by John Manning on Jun 10, 2020 4:43:07 GMT -5
Love this. Love all those “slice of life” Brian songs, but this is something else again: a slice of pure Brian. It’s fun, ballsy, and the kind of thing which, like Shortening Bread and Proud Mary, I could imagine him sat at the piano and banging out for hours and hours after everyone else had gone to bed.
Accordingly, there have been times when I’ve had this on repeat play for ages (and then realised I can’t out-Brian Brian!).
The lyrics too (don’t know who wrote them) are brusque and to the point: almost blues-like. It’s a happy song about being sad = Pure Brian.
Give me the full 12-hour version please on a Blu-ray audio. Muzak for the Prozac generation!
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Post by Al Smith on Jun 10, 2020 5:29:25 GMT -5
Love this. Love all those “slice of life” Brian songs, but this is something else again: a slice of pure Brian. It’s fun, ballsy, and the kind of thing which, like Shortening Bread and Proud Mary, I could imagine him sat at the piano and banging out for hours and hours after everyone else had gone to bed. Accordingly, there have been times when I’ve had this on repeat play for ages (and then realised I can’t out-Brian Brian!). The lyrics too (don’t know who wrote them) are brusque and to the point: almost blues-like. It’s a happy song about being sad = Pure Brian. Give me the full 12-hour version please on a Blu-ray audio. Muzak for the Prozac generation! John, Roger the Byrd claims to have written the lyrics - a match made in heaven? Who on earth can say? Great post, btw - I must say, to all and sundry, I've been a great admirer of John's insights since I was a young lad hiding up the back of the Smiley board. John has many times proven himself to be a great aficionado of this great music, a perfect father, and, thus, I can only imagine, a generous lover of the same ilk as one Mike Love!
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Post by John Manning on Jun 10, 2020 6:57:22 GMT -5
Love this. Love all those “slice of life” Brian songs, but this is something else again: a slice of pure Brian. It’s fun, ballsy, and the kind of thing which, like Shortening Bread and Proud Mary, I could imagine him sat at the piano and banging out for hours and hours after everyone else had gone to bed. Accordingly, there have been times when I’ve had this on repeat play for ages (and then realised I can’t out-Brian Brian!). The lyrics too (don’t know who wrote them) are brusque and to the point: almost blues-like. It’s a happy song about being sad = Pure Brian. Give me the full 12-hour version please on a Blu-ray audio. Muzak for the Prozac generation! John, Roger the Byrd claims to have written the lyrics - a match made in heaven? Who on earth can say? Great post, btw - I must say, to all and sundry, I've been a great admirer of John's insights since I was a young lad hiding up the back of the Smiley board. John has many times proven himself to be a great aficionado of this great music, a perfect father, and, thus, I can only imagine, a generous lover of the same ilk as one Mike Love! Look, I’m not increasing your pocket money, okay!
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Post by kds on Jun 10, 2020 7:19:34 GMT -5
It's mediocrity is only partly redeemed by its mercifully short length.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 10, 2020 16:36:55 GMT -5
Noticed Alan has, I believe for the first time ever in a poll, a 0 rating. And ding dang if it hasn't attracted two flies.
There may be 0 songs in our future, but this isn't one of them.
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Post by Mikie on Jun 10, 2020 17:31:01 GMT -5
Coke was Brian's go-to from about 1968 onward. And no, I don't mean Coca-Cola. He was snorting hog rails on and off throughout the 70's and early 80's. What would Nancy say? Nancy would say, "Just say no".
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Post by Al Smith on Jun 10, 2020 19:42:38 GMT -5
Nancy would say, "Just say no". She'd say "Keep it Clean with Al Jardine"
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Post by mfp on Jun 10, 2020 19:43:31 GMT -5
Dang it, missed the poll. I give this Ding a 9!
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Post by Al Smith on Jun 10, 2020 19:56:23 GMT -5
OKAY, 17 votes have been collected, counted, double checked and approved for release! And + mfp's dang late entry.
The final results are:
0 - 2 votes 2 - 2 votes 3 - 1 vote
6 - 4 votes 7 - 3 votes 9 - 2 votes (1 vote + 1 vote from mfp = 2) 10 - 4 votes
So 72% of voters like/love Ding Dang, 28% are not so convinced!
Thanks to all who voted and for providing discussion/insights into what makes Ding Dang tick or tock for you - and thanks File for providing the tune!
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Post by Al Smith on Jun 10, 2020 21:25:21 GMT -5
"What do the Planets mean?"
Right now, I don't know - but maybe we can get to the bottom of "it" in today's discussion and rating of Love You's side 2 opener - Solar System.
8 from me, mainly for the beguiling synth propelled track, that reminds me of the organic synth stylings of the Clockwork Orange soundtrack, and top notch band backing vocals.
The words immediately convey a sense of wonderment and innocence as Brian hastily ponders the meaning of the Cosmos while not waiting for an answer - after a personal probing question, he enthusiastically shows us around the night sky, rightly leaving the mystery of the universe open to interpretation.
"Make this wish come true tonight" provides some gravity and other lines harken back to the cosmic humility conveyed in 'Til I Die - however, some of the other lyrics don't reach such stellar heights.
AGD once asked: "...but why no mention of Uranus?" Great question, but it is noted that "Saturn has rings all around it".
Over to y'all!
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Post by Mikie on Jun 10, 2020 21:32:05 GMT -5
"What do the Planets mean?" Right now, I don't know - but maybe we can get to the bottom of "it" in today's discussion and rating of Love You's side 2 opener - Solar System. 8 from me, mainly for the beguiling synth propelled track, that reminds me of the organic synth stylings of the Clockwork Orange soundtrack, and top notch band backing vocals. The words immediately convey a sense of wonderment and innocence as Brian hastily ponders the meaning of the Cosmos while not waiting for an answer - after a personal probing question, he enthusiastically shows us around the night sky, rightly leaving the mystery of the universe open to interpretation. "Make this wish come true tonight" provides some gravity and other lines harken back to the cosmic humility conveyed in 'Til I Die - however, some of the other lyrics don't reach such stellar heights. AGD once asked: "...but why no mention of Uranus?" Great question, but it is noted that "Saturn has rings all around it". Over to y'all! Hey, I don't care about Uranus, OK?
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 10, 2020 23:26:30 GMT -5
Brian as little boy lost looking into the cosmos. "Solar System" stood out from the rest on Love you. Who writes a song like this? A classic for me. How can you listen, and not believe that?
9/10. simple and direct. orderly, harmonious. music as art.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 10, 2020 23:32:24 GMT -5
Nancy would say, "Just say no". Didn't need to do what she said. Brian was guided by his own star. Nancy sat around knitting hats for the kids. No contest which path was right.
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