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Post by AGD on Apr 30, 2020 11:12:39 GMT -5
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Post by dauber on Apr 30, 2020 11:21:59 GMT -5
Spoiler: it's not the 243rd-generation-sounding recording that's been circulating on bootlegs on and off!
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Post by John Manning on Apr 30, 2020 11:28:59 GMT -5
Brilliant – love this album.
Thank you for sharing!
Van Dyke Parks did some very cool versions of some of these songs solo, at the piano, which are (I think) on YouTube - would love a separate disc of Van Dyke's solo versions, as his voice suits them so well to my ears.
Anyone else struggling to access the Soundcloud file on that linked page?
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Post by Ham Burgerstand on Apr 30, 2020 11:30:26 GMT -5
Looks great! A worthy reissue, for sure.
My only slight disappointment is that it doesn't include any sort of demo version of the title track, like what we hear in the Don Was film (or even that recording itself). But I'm excited to hear the other bonus tracks.
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Post by E on Apr 30, 2020 12:14:00 GMT -5
Yes please.
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Post by dutchie on Apr 30, 2020 14:39:33 GMT -5
Just heard What a wonderful world official version. Always loved the album. Cant wait for june 19th. In these days i love to hear the fun and mellow music thats on the album.
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Post by Autotune on Apr 30, 2020 16:11:14 GMT -5
Cool release!
VDP’s quotes make clear Brian did not have a hand in the arrangements— I know some people said otherwise.
I wonder if another take of Hold Back Time will be used. Back then, it was mentioned that the wrong take was used, hence the off-synch vocals between Brian and Hutton.
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Post by pendlewitch on May 1, 2020 9:12:18 GMT -5
Intrigued by "I knew the man who could pronounce ‘Orange,’ the way it was meant to sound." So had a listen.
Apparently it should sound like 'oinge'. Is this a bit like 'mirrr' for mirror?
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Post by gfac22 on May 1, 2020 16:08:51 GMT -5
Reissue Trailer:
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Post by John Manning on Jun 4, 2020 14:33:18 GMT -5
The 2CD edition is now available for preorder at Amazon UK, but the Yorkshireman in me is surprised that it’s priced at £30+. That’s some high coin!
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Post by E on Jun 5, 2020 11:15:03 GMT -5
I'm hoping the Japanese text implies it's an import.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jun 5, 2020 16:10:44 GMT -5
The 2CD edition is now available for preorder at Amazon UK, but the Yorkshireman in me is surprised that it’s priced at £30+. That’s some high coin! I'm going to pass on the colored vinyl, that's very expensive. Do have the Deluxe on reserve. This is going to be a real treat with all the instrumentals and bonus tracks. |
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Post by John Manning on Jun 6, 2020 1:07:39 GMT -5
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Post by E on Jun 6, 2020 3:47:32 GMT -5
Uh-oh. Japanese text now gone. That is strangely expensive, |
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Post by AGD on Jun 6, 2020 3:53:23 GMT -5
About the same as it cost me ordering direct from the label.
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Post by John Manning on Jun 19, 2020 15:34:02 GMT -5
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Post by Jim on Jun 20, 2020 1:52:50 GMT -5
I posted most of this on the other board as well, trying to get some discussion going on. Doesn't look like there is much interest in OCA 25 on either board. Odd. I know it's just a reissue but there's a few unreleased tracks and whatnot.
Well anyways, I listened to the title track and I think the remaster sounds nice, though I thought the original was just fine. I also listened to all three bonus vocal tracks and I'm glad to add all three to my collection. I think that having "Rhapsody In Blue" and "Love Is Here To Stay" from this era is cool. The arrangement on "Love Is Here To Stay" was a bit surprising for me I must say.
Here's the thing though, I thought there were a few interesting Brian tidbits from his essay in the booklet. First off, he says that they "talked about doing a tour to play the album but they never did." Who knows if it got anywhere beyond one of them bringing it up, but I thought that was neat.
But then in the same paragraph he mentions that he was "making the record with Andy Paley by then so I was getting pretty busy. I'd love to get back to those songs eventually, too." (emphasis mine, not italicized nor bolded in booklet)
That part piqued my interest. I wonder if maybe the Paley session material may be in the pipeline. Personally I think that if it was gonna be marketed as a new project, Brian should probably re-record most of the vocals, as I think he could do better on a bunch of them, at least on the ballads. But yeah, maybe we get a BW archive release? Or maybe seeing as there is another anniversary for The Beach Boys next year (or 2022), perhaps use the Paley material for what seemed to be it's original purpose, a new Beach Boys album. I mean who knows about any of this, it mighta just been a throw away line in the essay. I guess we'll see.
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Post by E on Jun 20, 2020 3:50:48 GMT -5
Mine's on the way...
(And almost £7.00 refunded from the original price, John)
(And 23 pence on the new Dylan...)
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Post by John Manning on Jun 20, 2020 3:59:20 GMT -5
Mine's on the way... (And almost £7.00 refunded from the original price, John) (And 23 pence on the new Dylan...) Aye, saw that massive price drop on release day Ed. Have a copy on the way but from another trader whose price was even lower – also found on release date. Not expecting it for a week or two though!
Homegrown also expected soon…
Also have an 8CD box set due to arrive September 18, but I'm watching that a lot more carefully in case I have to cancel… |
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Post by M.I.U. Fan on Jun 20, 2020 23:59:01 GMT -5
Who exactly is singing on these bonus tracks? Aside from "Wonderful World", not hearing a heck of alot of Brian. Some Brian at times, I think, but mostly over shadowed by other voices. I was hoping they'd be wall of Brian tracks like the album proper.
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Post by E on Jun 21, 2020 7:22:11 GMT -5
Part of the key to enjoying this is not seeing it as a Brian Wilson album, but as another insight into the kind of lost Americana world of VDP. I don't think the big boy's singing is brilliant on this, but I'd rather hear him sing it than VDP. My favourites are the title track and Wings of a Dove, but I need to reliste to it when the reissue arrives...
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Post by George Faulkner on Jun 21, 2020 7:56:03 GMT -5
The backing tracks are exceptional. You can hear clearly where no expense was spared, and the songs where they slimmed down. It's a master class in composition, arrangement, and performance. I live for backing tracks. These did not disappoint.
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Post by andrewhickey on Jun 21, 2020 10:19:59 GMT -5
Who exactly is singing on these bonus tracks? Aside from "Wonderful World", not hearing a heck of alot of Brian. Some Brian at times, I think, but mostly over shadowed by other voices. I was hoping they'd be wall of Brian tracks like the album proper. A big chunk of the original album isn't wall-of-Brians either, though. "Sail Away", "My Janine", "Movies is Magic" and "Hold Back Time" all have a mass of other backing vocalists. The harmony stack on "Rhapsody" sounds *exactly* like that on "Sail Away" to me, and I assume that's who's singing. Brian's a bit buried in "Rhapsody", but I'm pretty sure there are at least a couple of him in there. There sound to me like there are multiple Brians singing in the higher part of the track, but he's *most* prominent coming in with an "oh" in full voice around 0:43, in the middle of the stereo spectrum. He's very evident in the vocals on "Love is Here to Stay" -- he's singing the first "ooh" at the beginning there (someone else seems to come in doubling him) and the "ooh" part as the sax solo comes in, in his lower register, and he's singing one of the higher register parts (not the highest one -- think the part that Al would normally sing) in the right channel, most notably on the line "but oh my dear" around 1:16. So yeah, not a stack of Brians, but Brian singing harmonies with other people. I like them myself, and it's particularly interesting to compare/contrast the two Gershwin pieces with Brian's own solo versions of those. Also nice to see in the liner notes VDP talking rather more warmly of Brian than he has in the last few years. A sign of some thawing between the two camps after whatever it was around the time of the Smile Sessions release that led to such bitterness? |
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Post by Autotune on Jun 21, 2020 17:49:33 GMT -5
Who exactly is singing on these bonus tracks? Aside from "Wonderful World", not hearing a heck of alot of Brian. Some Brian at times, I think, but mostly over shadowed by other voices. I was hoping they'd be wall of Brian tracks like the album proper. A big chunk of the original album isn't wall-of-Brians either, though. "Sail Away", "My Janine", "Movies is Magic" and "Hold Back Time" all have a mass of other backing vocalists. The harmony stack on "Rhapsody" sounds *exactly* like that on "Sail Away" to me, and I assume that's who's singing. Brian's a bit buried in "Rhapsody", but I'm pretty sure there are at least a couple of him in there. There sound to me like there are multiple Brians singing in the higher part of the track, but he's *most* prominent coming in with an "oh" in full voice around 0:43, in the middle of the stereo spectrum. He's very evident in the vocals on "Love is Here to Stay" -- he's singing the first "ooh" at the beginning there (someone else seems to come in doubling him) and the "ooh" part as the sax solo comes in, in his lower register, and he's singing one of the higher register parts (not the highest one -- think the part that Al would normally sing) in the right channel, most notably on the line "but oh my dear" around 1:16. So yeah, not a stack of Brians, but Brian singing harmonies with other people. I like them myself, and it's particularly interesting to compare/contrast the two Gershwin pieces with Brian's own solo versions of those. Also nice to see in the liner notes VDP talking rather more warmly of Brian than he has in the last few years. A sign of some thawing between the two camps after whatever it was around the time of the Smile Sessions release that led to such bitterness? I believe their friendship had its ups and downs. I think the lowest period may be after the TLOS project. |
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Post by George Faulkner on Jun 22, 2020 9:04:13 GMT -5
VDP bitterness always seems to be related to his perceived (and highly likely accurate) lack of compensation, not just related to working with Brian but across the board. That's the vibe I get from his Twitter posts.
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