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Post by bryand on May 6, 2019 14:17:37 GMT -5
This show seemed slightly better than the one that I attended in Atlanta back in November. I'm torn: if he wants to be on tour, good for him. But, just because he wants to be touring, that doesn't mean that it is the right decision (especially when you are charging people to attend).
Why not have him on stage for just a few songs (or a mini-set)? The "zoned out" Brian is by far the most unsettling part of the show.
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Post by Mikie on May 6, 2019 14:55:25 GMT -5
Well, Brian probably still looks at his watch, but the one thing he won't be doing, at least in the near future, will be getting up and darting off the stage before the end of the concert.....
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Post by nogosherbet on May 6, 2019 17:01:55 GMT -5
Finally, let's assume (as I've been told by more than one Person Who Would Know) that Brian is indeed touring because he wants to. The implications are disturbing. What implications do you mean?
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Post by E on May 7, 2019 1:10:55 GMT -5
So... a few months ago, he was looking happy and doing this: endlessharmony.boards.net/thread/426/popped-on-youtubeSinging maybe not as good as a few years back; a little breathy, perhaps because of the back pain, too much smoking earlier in life, age or all three, but still good. Now he's back out there, he doesn't look happy and had reverted to part-singing (badly).
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Post by jay on May 7, 2019 1:19:45 GMT -5
Here's a moral dilemma for you all. Some would say the answer is obvious, but let's just talk this through for the hell of it. Would you rather go see Brian and see the Brian of today, warts and all, or the Brian of 1980-82? Let's discuss the pros and cons. The Brian of today has to perform in a chair, and may well be in pain while doing so. He can sing passably well on his good days, but those good days may be few and far between now. Let's not forget the long term neurological effects of "Dr" landy(I refuse to capitalize that cretin's name because he's not worthy of it), resulting in a very bored looking Brian who can't really be as out going as he used to be. But on the other hand, he's finally free of drugs and seems to be happy most of the time. Now let's think about the Brian of 1980-82. The Brian back then is very much on drugs, and is an emotional and psychological wreck. He's hearing voices from undiagnosed mental illness, and over medicates and eats as a result. In concert, he smokes regularly, possibly drinks, and seems uninterested. He plays piano at times, even if it's not the same song as the band("In My Room" from Knebworth 1980, anyone?). But it's audible from the stage, and occasionally brings a nice element to a song or two. At times he can become quite engaged and it's like the old Brian is there(especially on "Keepin' The Summer Alive" and "Goin' On") again. At his worst he can give you a lead like "Don't Worry Baby" from Long Beach 1981. But at least his overall tone of voice still sounds like Brian.
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Post by AGD on May 7, 2019 5:42:30 GMT -5
Given my choice, I'd rather see the Brian of 2004-2011 - performing new material, engaged, healthy and making a contribution to the band.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 8:51:42 GMT -5
I've just seen the whole live footage.
Brian's vocal is pretty much terrible here, I admit. He doesn't sound like he's into it at all. But it's not unlistenable in a concert setting IMO.
Blondie and Al sound older than before, but they could sing. Matt, Darian and other band members are fantastic as usual.
I think they are better off touring under any name other than "Brian Wilson", frankly speaking.
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Post by jay on May 7, 2019 11:01:34 GMT -5
Given my choice, I'd rather see the Brian of 2004-2011 - performing new material, engaged, healthy and making a contribution to the band. In all honesty, I wish Brian would have retired after the TLOS album and tour. I always say that I count TLOS as the third in a trilogy of masterpieces from Brian(you know what the other two are...). I will always regret not going to see him on that tour. I know it's technically not the very last song on the album, but you have to admit that "Southern California" is a pretty great way to end his career. Looking back on my post, I kind of made a jumble of my thoughts. Basically what I meant to convey is that for all his faults and issues, the Brian of the late 1970's and early 1980's seems much more of the "authentic Brian" that what we have to say, if that makes any sense.
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Post by dauber on May 7, 2019 13:13:28 GMT -5
Heh. Went to L.A. for the first time in 2016 and saw Brian at the Hollywood Bowl. I warned my wife that if he did "Southern California" then, I would have been a blubbering mess. That was before I set foot in Los Angeles. After being there a few days and walking around Hollywood, I can only confirm that yes, had Brian done "Southern California" at that show, man...I just...forget it, you'd need a body bag for me.
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