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Post by lonesurf on Aug 30, 2023 5:50:26 GMT -5
Al has released yet another version of Waves Of Love:
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Post by AGD on Aug 30, 2023 5:54:20 GMT -5
SERIOUSLY??!!?
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Post by Awesoman on Aug 30, 2023 7:08:53 GMT -5
What is this guy's obsession with this song...? How many versions do we need?
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Post by AGD on Aug 30, 2023 7:31:51 GMT -5
What is this guy's obsession with this song...? How many versions do we need? My vote is for less than one. |
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Post by Awesoman on Aug 30, 2023 7:57:52 GMT -5
What is this guy's obsession with this song...? How many versions do we need? My vote is for less than one. Apparently that was Brian's vote as well when Al kept bugging him to include it on 𝑇𝑊𝐺𝑀𝑇𝑅. He got so flustered with Al that he allegedly immediately left the studio for the day. At this point Al could put out an entire solo album of all the different versions of this song. |
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Post by Rick Bartlett on Aug 30, 2023 8:01:00 GMT -5
Ol' 'Fiddle Fingers' is back at the console!  So this would now be....errr, version #5? waves (orig disc)
waves (amazon download)
waves (postcard cd - re-release - new mix of amazon)waves #2 (2021 - postcard cd - re-re release)
waves #3 (2023 oceans) |
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Post by Emdeeh on Aug 30, 2023 8:16:37 GMT -5
I think Al's partner on "Waves of Love," Larry Dvoskin may be the one who's doing a lot of tinkering with this track. IIRC, he was mostly responsible for the 2.0 versions, definitely the East Coast one.
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Post by Micha on Aug 30, 2023 8:33:38 GMT -5
What is this guy's obsession with this song...? How many versions do we need? My vote is for less than one. My vote is for exactly one. This isn't the one though. There's one version I really love, but I shortened the outro of it because it was WAY too long. That should have been on TWGMTR. |
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Post by filledeplage on Aug 30, 2023 9:15:30 GMT -5
My vote is for less than one. My vote is for exactly one. This isn't the one though. There's one version I really love, but I shortened the outro of it because it was WAY too long. That should have been on TWGMTR. It probably would have been good on TWGMTH. |
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Post by nater on Aug 30, 2023 9:23:28 GMT -5
Noooo Wayyyyyyyyyy  this is like the fifth release |
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Post by boogieboarder on Aug 30, 2023 10:04:09 GMT -5
You'd think that after waiting 22 years (or 27 years, if you don't count Still Crusin') to do a new studio Beach Boys album with Brian's involvement, Al Jardine could bring in a new tune, rather than a previously released solo song.
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Post by newbbfan on Aug 30, 2023 11:04:25 GMT -5
So a little confused here. This is Al and a new version of an old song but not including any other Beach Boys and no old parts of any recording? Sorry my head is spinning when I hear the word ways of love.
I wonder if in the vaults for the album radio there's a version of this with the reunited Beach boys? Also whatever happened to all those songs from radio that weren't put on the album? Stowaway by Dave that the band attempted to do a version of, for example. I wonder if we'll ever hear them.
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Post by E on Aug 30, 2023 11:36:17 GMT -5
Could do without the 'dits'
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Post by jk on Aug 30, 2023 12:36:31 GMT -5
I think Al's partner on "Waves of Love," Larry Dvoskin may be the one who's doing a lot of tinkering with this track. IIRC, he was mostly responsible for the 2.0 versions, definitely the East Coast one. Whenever I hear the name Larry Dvoskin, some aberrant part of my brain forces me to hit "Search" and dredge up this jk post of yesteryear: Larry Dvoskin... Long ago I hunted him down to get an answer to a question a poster called Cat Collins had asked on the Capitol Board, about whether there was any truth in the rumour that Dvoskin had collaborated with The Beach Boys in some way. Larry promptly registered there as "todayisthefuture" and posted the following:
Hi Cat, JK, BB Fans,
Hope you are all "Getting Around" with "Good Vibrations",
"Wouldn't It Be Nice" on this beautiful July Day, but "God Only Knows"
its hard sometimes!
Larry Dvoskin here, to answer the question.
The answer- Al Jardine.
I am one of his songwriting partners. In early 90's when Carl Wilson was still alive,
there was exploration into reuniting the group & Brian and recording a new
album with producer Don Was.
I went to Al's glorious ranch and we wrote and demo'd a bunch of songs=
"Waves Of Love", "Good Good Feelings", "Wish", "Jennifer Clover" ( named after Al's cow
and co-written with his wonderful wife- Mary Ann Jardine).
At that time- Al's eldest son "Matt Jardine" was touring with the band replacing Brian Wilson's voice ( no one could replace Brian himself) by singing all those really high falsetto notes.
So Al, Matt, Carl Wilson, and maybe Bruce I recall- at one point recorded a bunch of songs...which are unreleased yet, but are really high quality songs.
To this day the friendship and creative relationship continues.
A closing personal insight to share with the forum is this:
Buddha overheard musicians one day talking about a stringed instrument.
They said " if the string is too loose it wont play, if too tight it breaks"...he left the forest
to go into the world and proclaimed "The middle path is the road of enlightenment".
The Beach Boys are like a string instrument...Their singing combination, and personas.
Wound tight- to produce a beautiful, colorful sound for the world to enjoy. Painful,
uncomfortable for the musicians themselves, to be wound so tightly...which has often
gone over the line to drug abuse, members leaving, and those pesky lawsuits.
It has a higher, cosmic meaning and brought us all a world of original,
one of a kind music which lifts up our hearts and spirits with joy.
Hope in some small way this info/insight has been of service to you.
Kindest Regards, Larry Dvoskin |
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Post by lonesurf on Aug 30, 2023 13:16:21 GMT -5
JK’s post reminded me that Larry Dvoskin offered an Al Jardine NFT for auction a couple of years ago. The promo for this NFT included a snippet of “Wish”. You can still hear the snippet here: superrare.com/0xb932a70a57673d89f4acffbe830e8ed7f75fb9e0/the-beach-boys-al-jardine--the-world's-first-nft-plus-a-superrare-cascade-of-utilities-30409 The reserve for the auction was a bit, ummmm, pricey, but the entire NFT package was described as a “one off original consisting of artwork, an advance copy of an unreleased original song, and an unlocking cascade of physical objects and experiences.” Just FYI. |
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Post by luckywilbury on Aug 30, 2023 15:08:27 GMT -5
What is this guy's obsession with this song...? How many versions do we need? Al seems to have a history with fixating on certain songs and feeling like he got them wrong somehow. I don’t think any other member of the group cared about redoing Cotton Fields for the single (though he was absolutely right on that one), also recording a new vocal for Loop de Loop on the Endless Harmony soundtrack, or re-editing Beaks of Eagles on the Sail On Sailor set (most baffling of all). |
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Post by AGD on Aug 30, 2023 17:02:00 GMT -5
Just listened: that is a shockingly bad mix: drums & guitar way too loud, and the return of RoboAl.
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Post by lonesurf on Aug 30, 2023 18:14:10 GMT -5
Just listened: that is a shockingly bad mix: drums & guitar way too loud, and the return of RoboAl. The worst part is that now we have to wait a whole year for 4.0. |
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Post by ryankc on Aug 30, 2023 19:53:12 GMT -5
Y'all are freaking about another Waves of Love, but I'm over demanding Susie Cincinnati to be released as a B-side again.
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Post by bill on Aug 30, 2023 20:03:43 GMT -5
It seems a number of us are fascinated with Al's fascination with this song. And with the recording history of the song as well.
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Post by boogieboarder on Aug 31, 2023 13:45:30 GMT -5
Perhaps Al Jardine could offer a limited edition download where each purchaser gets their own unique mix of the song.
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Post by Emdeeh on Aug 31, 2023 14:21:18 GMT -5
I just took a look at the YouTube link. The copyright notice is for Larry Dvoskin's organization. I'm not saying Al doesn't tinker with tracks, but the most recent "Waves of Love" remixes look to be Larry's projects.
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Post by AGD on Aug 31, 2023 14:57:23 GMT -5
I just took a look at the YouTube link. The copyright notice is for Larry Dvoskin's organization. I'm not saying Al doesn't tinker with tracks, but the most recent "Waves of Love" remixes look to be Larry's projects. That said, if Alan listened to this and said "yup, that's OK to release", then there's something very wrong with his hearing. |
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Post by Rick Bartlett on Aug 31, 2023 18:35:47 GMT -5
I just took a look at the YouTube link. The copyright notice is for Larry Dvoskin's organization. I'm not saying Al doesn't tinker with tracks, but the most recent "Waves of Love" remixes look to be Larry's projects. That said, if Alan listened to this and said "yup, that's OK to release", then there's something very wrong with his hearing. This is also the same Alan that butchered the remix of 'Seasons In The Sun' let's not forget. Stripped away those great Beach Boys vocals and left Carl naked and afraid.   |
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Post by lonelysummer on Aug 31, 2023 19:45:34 GMT -5
I'm waiting for the day he releases an AI version of Waves of Love.
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this is like the fifth release
