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Post by filledeplage on Feb 1, 2023 19:57:01 GMT -5
Additional guest appearances and performances. That's what it says in the Grammy tribute information concerning when the show airs on tv. I wonder therefore if they'll be doing other filming of other events and will splicing that material when the show is actually produced and shown on television. Then they could do the thing like catch up with Mike and Bruce somewhere at a state fair and have them sing a song and say thanks to the Grammys and all that sort of stuff. In other words there's 10 different ways that no Beach Boys could be at the show at all but they could be somehow woven into the performance when it's produced for television. I think that's what they mean by additional performances and appearances or at least possibly It is unlikely, in my opinion, that they won’t be there. The Grammy’s are a big deal and the Touring Band does not appear to have any shows (public) before the end of February. Emdeeh, who posted up-thread mentioned that there appear to be no conflicts at this point. And this is not the season for state fairs. It appears that Brian won’t be doing any big tours but that would not preclude him or any other band members, from making an appearance (or participating in some form) at such a prestigious event with the rest of the band in his own state.
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Post by newbbfan on Feb 1, 2023 20:18:11 GMT -5
filledeplage
As Spock once said to his former fiancee, logical, flawlessly logical.
But as Spock as often said himself as well that logic does need some facts and I will be much happier when I see the five surviving Beach Boys either sitting together with tuxedos on or on stage playing instruments in some way shape or form. Thank you for your thoughtful and encouraging message
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Post by filledeplage on Feb 1, 2023 20:33:52 GMT -5
filledeplage As Spock once said to his former fiancee, logical, flawlessly logical. But as Spock as often said himself as well that logic does need some facts and I will be much happier when I see the five surviving Beach Boys either sitting together with tuxedos on or on stage playing instruments in some way shape or form. Thank you for your thoughtful and encouraging message You mean Spock from Star Trek or the famous pediatrician Dr. Spock? 😂 www.billboard.com/lists/2023-grammy-parties-events/In addition to this list, the American Bar Association, the Entertainment and Sports Law section, who represent these musicians and entertainers, have a number of high profile events, including scholarships for law students who are looking to practice in this area. It is a big deal week. They have this event planned on the 8th to salute the BBs. My money is on the band being in attendance.
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Post by newbbfan on Feb 1, 2023 22:48:10 GMT -5
Yes and the stakes are quite high here. In attendance could mean sitting there and smiling, blowing kisses. On stage performing could be the very final performance of the surviving Beach boys. Stakes are high and the situation is profoundly dramatic.
And, heavens, of course Spock from Star trek. No one under 70 years old knows anything about the pediatrician!😁😁
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Post by newbbfan on Feb 2, 2023 0:30:21 GMT -5
How can someone not be leaking a photo of the five Beach Boys together rehearsing for their special Grammy tribute triumph grand finale....
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Post by John Manning on Feb 2, 2023 1:43:39 GMT -5
…I will be much happier when I see the five surviving Beach Boys either sitting together with tuxedos on or on stage playing instruments in some way shape or form… Seven. I think it’s Blondie and Ricky you’re forgetting! This “amnesia” can, I reckon, be blamed on the prohibitive pricing of the Sail on Sailor sets, which is preventing word of the band’s 1972 magnificence spreading far and wide, even to the furthest reaches of Beach Boys fan boards!
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Post by filledeplage on Feb 2, 2023 4:18:08 GMT -5
Yes and the stakes are quite high here. In attendance could mean sitting there and smiling, blowing kisses. On stage performing could be the very final performance of the surviving Beach boys. Stakes are high and the situation is profoundly dramatic. And, heavens, of course Spock from Star trek. No one under 70 years old knows anything about the pediatrician!😁😁 Star Trek, the original came out in 1966, so there is an overlap. Spock the doc was still raising America on still mostly black-and-white TV. Not exactly the original BB boomer audience but in, or finished college, working, or facing being shipped off to Vietnam. In seriousness, it is a big industry-wide event beyond what most think of as a one night event on TV, so I would expect participation by the band. It should be interesting for you, to be in the audience. I’m a little jealous. Enjoy!
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Post by Awesoman on Feb 2, 2023 8:51:04 GMT -5
Yes and the stakes are quite high here. In attendance could mean sitting there and smiling, blowing kisses. On stage performing could be the very final performance of the surviving Beach boys. Stakes are high and the situation is profoundly dramatic. And, heavens, of course Spock from Star trek. No one under 70 years old knows anything about the pediatrician!😁😁 Highly doubtful all the surviving members will reunite on stage; at the very least it's an absolute guarantee that Brian won't perform and it's unlikely that he'll even attend the damn thing.
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Post by AGD on Feb 2, 2023 8:57:20 GMT -5
How can someone not be leaking a photo of the five Beach Boys together rehearsing for their special Grammy tribute triumph grand finale.... Gee, I wonder why, I honestly have no idea at all.
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Post by newbbfan on Feb 2, 2023 11:45:53 GMT -5
Well the bets are on the table and I don't have a bet but if I had a low expectations guess it would be this. When the show actually occurs there will be a recorded video message from Brian showing gratitude. At this event it's possible to see Mike and Al and Bruce in the audience and an acknowledgment and some shots of them I guess that they will weave in to the actual produced event but no performance, and they will be so short-sighted and unkind as to not invite dave. I predict that the performances are going to be heartfelt and memorable and of high artistic Merit but that the Beach Boys are pretty much just going to be out of the way or in the way and not featured themselves as performing artists. That part is going to be awkward and frustrating and hard to see. I hope I'm wrong of course but that is my most dispassionate analysis based on the lack of any information.
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Post by filledeplage on Feb 2, 2023 11:59:53 GMT -5
Well the bets are on the table and I don't have a bet but if I had a low expectations guess it would be this. When the show actually occurs there will be a recorded video message from Brian showing gratitude. At this event it's possible to see Mike and Al and Bruce in the audience and an acknowledgment and some shots of them I guess that they will weave in to the actual produced event but no performance, and they will be so short-sighted and unkind as to not invite dave. I predict that the performances are going to be heartfelt and memorable and of high artistic Merit but that the Beach Boys are pretty much just going to be out of the way or in the way and not featured themselves as performing artists. That part is going to be awkward and frustrating and hard to see. I hope I'm wrong of course but that is my most dispassionate analysis based on the lack of any information. Why would it be awkward? There was/were some predicate/conditions for the catalog sale, to advance the music going forward. The parties needed to be in some agreement, on terms, which is actually, none of our business. But, also perhaps, conditions to be fulfilled, going forward, whether interviews or public appearances, as well. Why would they not go? Did Brian go to the Kennedy Center when he was being honored? Yes. Did he perform? No. We’ll see. I waited for 37 years for Smile - I can wait until it is released. Those who attend, don’t have to wait. It’s all good. They are finally getting the public credit they deserved 50+ years ago. I’m happy for them all, and for their families.
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Post by newbbfan on Feb 2, 2023 12:05:34 GMT -5
Well when I say awkward I guess what I really mean simply is this. I will be sitting there with my heart pounding wondering what I'm going to see of dramatic historical relevance and if they don't appear together I'm going to feel a sense of tremendous disappointment and an awkward disjunction between my hopes and realities. So you all can bracket this as it's just a confession of a personal reaction in anticipation of disappointment for a fanboys dream.
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Post by filledeplage on Feb 2, 2023 12:26:34 GMT -5
Well when I say awkward I guess what I really mean simply is this. I will be sitting there with my heart pounding wondering what I'm going to see of dramatic historical relevance and if they don't appear together I'm going to feel a sense of tremendous disappointment and an awkward disjunction between my hopes and realities. So you all can bracket this as it's just a confession of a personal reaction in anticipation of disappointment for a fanboys dream. That is just reading too much into the event. It is industry recognition and long-overdue tribute. The fans, who were unswayed by poor publicity or industry blackballing post Pet Sounds, know how late-to-the-party the industry is. But, better-late-than-never. So, just enjoy. We celebrate their work anyway. If you notice, many of the posters here, are firmly grounded in their convictions as to the quality of their career work and are long-past caring what anyone else thinks and frankly that comes from eras of enormous peer pressure. I’m speaking for myself - we are having the most delicious last laugh. 😎
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Post by newbbfan on Feb 2, 2023 12:46:01 GMT -5
Yes I agree in letter and spirit with this message absolutely. But in terms of reading too much into the things? Boys that's how I pay the rent! 😅😅😅
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Post by gigantiskpyjamas on Feb 3, 2023 8:18:22 GMT -5
I have a feeling that this is what Weezer will be performing at the show…
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Post by newbbfan on Feb 3, 2023 13:42:31 GMT -5
Well I don't particularly love that version of California girls but if they played it I suppose I wouldn't throw a tomato at the stage.
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Post by lonelysummer on Feb 3, 2023 21:56:18 GMT -5
Additional guest appearances and performances. That's what it says in the Grammy tribute information concerning when the show airs on tv. I wonder therefore if they'll be doing other filming of other events and will splicing that material when the show is actually produced and shown on television. Then they could do the thing like catch up with Mike and Bruce somewhere at a state fair and have them sing a song and say thanks to the Grammys and all that sort of stuff. In other words there's 10 different ways that no Beach Boys could be at the show at all but they could be somehow woven into the performance when it's produced for television. I think that's what they mean by additional performances and appearances or at least possibly "hi, I'm Brian Wilson, I'm sitting at home with my wife Melinda who saved my life, and I'd like to thank the Academy for this tribute. Love and mercy!" "hi, this is Mike Love, and it's really a drag my cousin Brian can't be here tonight to celebrate with us all the great songs we wrote together. I wanted to get on the stage one more time with my cousin Brian, and kick out the jams on Surfer Girl, Surfin Safari, Surfin USA, California Girls, Help Me Rhonda, Good Vibrations, and Kokomo, which he didn't even participate in, and it was the biggest hit we ever had, 22 years after Good Vibrations, which I wrote the lyrics to."
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Post by newbbfan on Feb 3, 2023 23:54:35 GMT -5
Oh how sad that, or something like that, would be.
But the surviving Beach Boys uniting on stage to do an unplugged version of Brian's first song Surfer Girl would be a very beautiful way to end their public career, Mike and Bruce's continued shows and individual shows by Al and Dave and the Surf City All Stars etc etc notwithstanding.
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Post by #JusticeForDonGoldberg on Feb 4, 2023 6:51:46 GMT -5
Yes and the stakes are quite high here. … Are they though?
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Post by newbbfan on Feb 4, 2023 13:34:53 GMT -5
Well let me recast that lest I be misinterpreted. I don't mean the stakes are high and that there's a lot to lose ,which one could argue the phrase indicates. Rather I mean it is a dramatic situation for sure that could go either way, either a dud and a whimper or something spectacular and of profound emotional effect. Last time Pink Floyd was on stage together and they put their arms around each other and bowed it was the final moment of Pink Floyd and it was quite dramatic. That's what I mean when I say the stakes are high. Not that they risk losing any Authority or stature or status in the opinion of petty critics or something like that. I hope that clarifies. Very good discussion
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Post by AGD on Feb 6, 2023 2:46:01 GMT -5
As of about 20 seconds ago, according to Ticketmaster, there were 225 seats left in the 3400 seat Dolby Theater. That's not too shabby.
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Post by ironhorseapples on Feb 6, 2023 3:19:00 GMT -5
To save me reading over this thread again, can someone remind me of the broadcasting plans? UK specific if possible.
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Post by AGD on Feb 6, 2023 3:25:15 GMT -5
To save me reading over this thread again, can someone remind me of the broadcasting plans? UK specific if possible. Paul Simon's Grammy tribute aired late December, some eight months after it was taped.
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Post by newbbfan on Feb 6, 2023 17:08:38 GMT -5
Roughly 48 hours before the show and no inkling at all from anyone's Twitter page or Facebook page or Instagram page to the tune that they are looking forward to reuniting with their old mates or looking forward to sitting there and faking a smile while younger people do covers of their songs or no reference at all from any of the living Beach Boys as to what their plans are for Wednesday night?
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Post by Emdeeh on Feb 6, 2023 17:39:34 GMT -5
One thing I've learned in BB fandom is to keep your expectations low, and then you might be pleasantly surprised.
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