Shawn
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Post by Shawn on Aug 11, 2021 13:06:54 GMT -5
Bear in mind that on the American CD release (but not the European), some of the alternates - California Saga-California (45 mix), Rock And Roll Music (45 mix), School Day (unreleased 45 mix) - were replaced by the standard versions. However on the original US vinyl release, the 'wrong' ( 15BO) version of "Come Go With Me" was used.
Anyone know why they reverted to the standard versions for the American CD release? Surely the inclusion of 45 mixes is a selling point to the fan base (vs. the album tracks that they already have) - was it a band decision? Or a label decision? Tapes gone missing between the LP release and the CD release?
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Post by boogieboarder on Aug 11, 2021 14:43:54 GMT -5
“California Saga” was reverted to the album version because the single version was deemed to be poor quality. It’s probably the reason the other singles were rejected as well, but I only know for sure about California Saga. Also, the European CD is generally very poor quality compared to the US version, but then again I believe the US version used the NoNoise Solution, which many people think eliminated mire than just noise. These days you probably need to show internet sources for this data, but I remember it from ICE Magazine, if anyone remembers those from the 1980s to 1990s. I have them all in boxes in my garage, along with Beatles Monthly’s, Add Some Music’s, early Endless Harmony’s, Jan and Dean fanzine “Sunshine Music’s”edited by Mike "Doc Rock" Kelly , and a lot more. Trying to decide what to do with them all.
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Post by E on Aug 22, 2021 3:19:09 GMT -5
Sadly, now back up to its previous price of nearly £40...
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Post by Awesoman on Sept 6, 2023 7:20:55 GMT -5
It's a pretty solid representation of the band's lesser-known material throughout the 70's. I believe this was the first appearance of the excellent then-unreleased "San Miguel", and I believe perhaps one of the only places you can hear their middling cover of "Sea Cruise" if you so desire. Also nice that it includes the band's rare and not-bad track "It's A Beautiful Day". Not sure what Dennis's solo track "River Song" is doing on here but I'm not complaining as it fits right in. The rest of the track-listing mostly gets it right despite including a few misfires here and there. If you're interested in getting deeper into the band besides just their biggest hits then this is a good place to start.
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Post by filledeplage on Sept 6, 2023 7:28:44 GMT -5
It's a pretty solid representation of the band's lesser-known material throughout the 70's. I believe this was the first appearance of the excellent then-unreleased "San Miguel", and I believe perhaps one of the only places you can hear their middling cover of "Sea Cruise" if you so desire. Also nice that it includes the band's rare and not-bad track "It's A Beautiful Day". Not sure what Dennis's solo track "River Song" is doing on here but I'm not complaining as it fits right in. The rest of the track-listing mostly gets it right despite including a few misfires here and there. If you're interested in getting deeper into the band besides just their biggest hits then this is a good place to start. Gave it a 10 and played the hell out of it. Wore it out!
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Post by boogieboarder on Sept 6, 2023 9:35:19 GMT -5
It's a pretty solid representation of the band's lesser-known material throughout the 70's. I believe this was the first appearance of the excellent then-unreleased "San Miguel", and I believe perhaps one of the only places you can hear their middling cover of "Sea Cruise" if you so desire. Also nice that it includes the band's rare and not-bad track "It's A Beautiful Day". Not sure what Dennis's solo track "River Song" is doing on here but I'm not complaining as it fits right in. The rest of the track-listing mostly gets it right despite including a few misfires here and there. If you're interested in getting deeper into the band besides just their biggest hits then this is a good place to start. All those rarities were the selling point to fans who already had the rest of the 70s catalog on CD, and didn’t need to buy a retrospective. And The Beach Boys biggest hits, of course, were not included, because the band had, essentially, their biggest hits long before they switched from Capitol to Reprise.
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Post by petsite on Feb 23, 2024 17:08:02 GMT -5
I may have posted this elsewhere, but the reissue from Japan is AWESOME. It is a flat copy of the TYOH comp tape mastered by Carl Wilson. The sound quality to me is second to none. Listening to this version and the 1990 version from the EU, you can tell the EU was from a safety copy made for vinyl and/or cassette reproduction. The the new CD set sounds great.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Feb 24, 2024 10:36:19 GMT -5
I have one. Can't believe they're still around, and at a discount from Amazon. If you love high quality sound you should buy one. There was only 2 left in stock. Act quick!
Would love to see a thread that compared the more recent Japan Cd pressings of the material that was used to make them. To say, I invested in the Japan boxes, Sunflower (Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl And The Passions "So Tough" and Holland) - Love You (In Concert, 15 Big Ones, Love You and M.I.U.). Those I was able to get in the Disc Union boxes. The rest of the paper sleeves (that was what I was collecting) I got as individual releases. Got the early sixties albums, as well. The only paper sleeve I wanted but couldn't get was 20/20. Got that as a jewel-case SHM with the bonus tracks from the two-fers. The sixties albums came in three types, some SHM SACD. Did this in 2017, so those masters. The same flat transfers from earlier Japan releases, right? I believe the jewel-case SHM discs used the same old masterings from the two-fers.
It would have been easier if it wasn't so hard to find info on what was offered in the 1990s. Bob, you up for explaining all of those confusing details?
I looked at ebay this morning, and it has become even more confusing. I see some that look like boots but claim to be official releases. Some look like they are put together from the digital only releases, like Live 1967 stuff and the old 1987 Live boot. Takes grey market to new levels. Makes it all nuts for young collectors. No wonder they give up and settle for files.
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Post by Will/P.P. on Feb 24, 2024 11:02:53 GMT -5
I gave Ten Years of Harmony a 10, due to the excellent track selection. The sequencing is mostly excellent, especially Disc 2.
If this is the same mastering used on the source Cd Japan releases, that means not the 2012s or the AP releases, which I also have most of. I don't collect the first album, have the two-fer and original vinyl, and Party!, which I think is better as the 2-Cd, and I have the original vinyl. It helps, of course, that I have been collecting The Beach Boys since 1963. Original vinyl became difficult to find in the 1980s, even if you could shop in large cities with loads of record stores. I did, for twenty years, 1978-1998.
A lot changed when Andy, Mark and Alan came on the scene. lol. Some very good, some... you decide.
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