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Post by jk on Jan 28, 2022 10:07:33 GMT -5
For the benefit of the non-Brits, Would I Lie to You? is the title of a BBC comedy panel show. In one of its three rounds, "Home Truths", one of the panellists reads out a statement about themselves from a card they are seeing for the first time. The opposing team has to decide whether it's true or false by asking that panellist questions. * This example* features my favourite comedian, the late Sean Lock... I had been debating on whether to start a Carol Kaye thread but felt daunted by the risk of posting something it transpires she hadn't played on. This format is the perfect way to cover that risk. In the event that a linked track doesn't feature Ms Kaye, I'm sure a more knowledgeable poster will leap in and announce, as so often happens on the above show, "Sadly, it's a lie!" To kick things off, here's Carol playing acoustic rhythm guitar on Ritchie Valens's 1958 debut 45 and #2 US hit, "Come On, Let's Go". (Actually, the first record I ever heard with electric guitars on it was Tommy Steele's UK top ten cover of "COLG". I was sold on that sound!) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Would_I_Lie_to_You%3F_(game_show)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Kaye
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Post by jk on Jan 29, 2022 6:13:00 GMT -5
Here Carol hits the "rock" trail for the first time since the '60s, playing bass on Matthew Sweet's 1999 album In Reverse. This is track #4, "Faith In You": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Reverse
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Post by jk on Jan 30, 2022 4:56:06 GMT -5
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Post by jk on Jan 31, 2022 15:17:57 GMT -5
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Post by jk on Feb 2, 2022 4:23:37 GMT -5
The arrangement [of Sonny & Cher's "The Beat Goes On"] is credited to Harold Battiste, but Wrecking Crew bassist Carol Kaye asserts that at the session she devised the distinctive syncopated bass line that is featured on the released recording, replacing the original walking bass line in the prepared arrangement: Songfacts: "What's an example of one of the songs that you guys really added to and made it into a hit?" Carol Kaye: "Well, 'The Beat Goes On' is a biggie. I mean, it was a nothing song, and then the bass line kind of made that." [ Source]
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Post by jk on Feb 3, 2022 8:19:20 GMT -5
Many of the scores being composed in the late ’60s and early ’70s were complex orchestral affairs, and thus perfectly suited for Kaye's jazz background. With Quincy Jones in particular, there was a musical symbiosis that carried over into the making of 1967's In the Heat of the Night, for example. On kinetic cues like "Nitty Gritty Time," Kaye matches the percussive horn hits punch-for-punch, demonstrating an innate sense of knowing when not to play.
"By its content, we knew this was a 'heavy' movie, and the music was powerful," Kaye says. "I played the Fender, but Quincy liked me on the [Maestro] Fuzz-Tone with my Danelectro bass guitar, too. So during the breaks, I'd unplug all the pedals to jam some bebop, and then it was back to the deep emotional music of the film. Quincy is a genius, there's no doubt about it. He wrote some of the most beautiful themes I've ever heard in my life—let alone had the pleasure of playing on."[ Source].
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Post by jk on Feb 4, 2022 4:22:48 GMT -5
"Personnel on [Jimmy Smith’s 1968 album] Livin' It Up! includes Howard Roberts (guitar), Tom Scott & Plas Johnson (saxophones), Conte Candoli (trumpet), Billy Byers & Ernie Tack (trombone), Ray Brown (bass), Carol Kaye (electric bass), and Larry Bunker (percussion). A 14-piece string orchestra is added on several tracks." [ Source] Carol's bass is the first instrument to be heard on "Burning Spear": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Smith_(musician)
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Post by jk on Feb 6, 2022 13:52:56 GMT -5
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Post by jk on Feb 9, 2022 4:37:21 GMT -5
By way of a brief diversion… I see Laura Veirs has written a song about Carol. That's Jim James doing the high harmonies: She can really play it She can really lay it down "Smile", "Good Vibrations" "Help Me Rhonda", "Homeward Bound"
It would be so cool To be like Carol, Carol Kaye Maybe I can meet her Maybe shake her hand one day
"Songs of Innocence" "Natural Man", "Feelin' Alright" "I'm a Believer" "Come Together", "In the Heat of the Night" Oh, she's "Out of this World" Ten thousand sessions from an Everett, Washington girl
Not a household name but She's been in your head all day It would be so cool To be like Carol, Carol Kayeen.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Flame
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Post by AGD on Feb 10, 2022 1:12:50 GMT -5
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddd... which version of "Come Together" might that be ?
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Post by jk on Feb 10, 2022 9:48:47 GMT -5
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddd... which version of "Come Together" might that be ? Ha, yes -- I raised an eyebrow at that myself. So, following up your question, I decided to poke around. And found this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basie_on_the_Beatles
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Post by jk on Jun 11, 2022 17:16:25 GMT -5
Here's Carol playing 12-string on the original version of "I'm Not Satisfied" from the The Mothers of Invention's 1966 debut album Freak Out!: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freak_Out!
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Post by jk on Dec 29, 2022 17:31:48 GMT -5
Perhaps it's time to cautiously resurrect this thread (read the OP) now that Carol's back in the limelight in the main section. "Monday Without You" is one of four (?) tracks on The Wilsons (1997) on which Wendy and Carnie are joined by their father:
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Post by jk on Nov 29, 2023 9:32:07 GMT -5
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Post by filledeplage on Nov 29, 2023 10:23:53 GMT -5
One of the most beautiful, delightful and delicious tracks that are less well-known unless you glommed onto 20/20. Delighted to find this out. Cabinessence! Others can always imitate your style or a bass line if they hear it. Or a drum fill. It is why there are lawsuits that sound in copyright, over music. And while there was an embrace of union standards, if you have a studio in your house or other location, that is not subject to record-keeping, or payment on-the-books, it is a slippery slope. And while you might not be on a final cut, it does not mean that your own contribution is not included, by reference (for lack of a better word, analogous to a writing as opposed to music composition) in the performances. I've watched certain percussionists/drummers whose fills/technique have been incorporated by others, in the live context. It enhances the work. Imitation is the finest form of flattery. But it should not take away from the person who either invented it or had an idea to try-out and incorporate. For years, women would stand outside a department store window and sketch a designer dress to make for their daughters. They could not afford to buy the dress at the high-end store price, but they could go buy the fabric and notions (like buttons or snaps) and make it themselves on their own sewing machines. Fashion is not protected in the US as it is in other countries (a disgrace if you ask me!) Designed by Dior, but fitted and sewn by mom.
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