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Post by Rick Bartlett on Jul 25, 2021 12:12:40 GMT -5
Yes, a copycat version of the 'Brian' guest appearance thread.... After scrolling through AGD's guest appearance page, the song listed by the band 'Sailor', 'Whatever's In Your Heart' was one that has never come across my ears.
I've never heard any discussion about it, Carl's involvement, when he recorded it with the group.... I love the song! It's Catchy!
Carl shines in all his glory. I thought he may have been bogged down in the background harmonies somewhere, but not so. There he is! Singing along in the chorus and right up front in the mix. Unmistakable!
It's still nice to be surprised finding treasures in the Beach Boys/Related catalogue.
If you have not had the pleasure, check it out!
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Post by AGD on Jul 25, 2021 12:50:18 GMT -5
The big difference between Brian's & Carl's guest appearences is that you can (almost) always hear Carl loud and clear.
Sailor recorded an album at Caribou Ranch in 1979/1980, and Carl was there as well. This was the post-Georg Kajanus version of the band.
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Post by AGD on Sept 7, 2021 5:37:27 GMT -5
Yes, a copycat version of the 'Brian' guest appearance thread.... After scrolling through AGD's guest appearance page, the song listed by the band 'Sailor', 'Whatever's In Your Heart' was one that has never come across my ears.
I've never heard any discussion about it, Carl's involvement, when he recorded it with the group.... I love the song! It's Catchy!
Carl shines in all his glory. I thought he may have been bogged down in the background harmonies somewhere, but not so. There he is! Singing along in the chorus and right up front in the mix. Unmistakable!
It's still nice to be surprised finding treasures in the Beach Boys/Related catalogue.
If you have not had the pleasure, check it out!
I only knew about it when I read a (pretty badly written) biography of Sailor several years ago. |
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Post by patsy6 on Jan 30, 2023 18:31:42 GMT -5
This is from Tom Petty's Wildflowers box set that was released a few years ago. Imagine having enough stature in the music business to request Carl Wilson to sing background vocals and Ringo Starr play drums on one of your songs. And then to not actually release that song on the album! I think that may have had something to do with the fact that Hung Up and Overdue was on a movie soundtrack around the same time, though.
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Post by patsy6 on Jan 30, 2023 18:52:58 GMT -5
Warren Zevon's Desperados Under the Eaves has background vocals by Carl Wilson, Billy Hinsche, Jackson Browne and J.D. Souther. It got Carl a mention in Bob Dylan's recent song Murder Most Foul which goes "Play it for Carl Wilson too, looking far, far away down Gower Avenue. This song is connected to another Beach Boy as well. It describes a time when Zevon, then an alcoholic, skipped out on paying his bill at a Hollywood hotel. He left through a back exit, and who was waiting at the curb in a car to drive him away? None other than David Marks.
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Post by Awesoman on Jan 31, 2023 9:06:40 GMT -5
This is from Tom Petty's Wildflowers box set that was released a few years ago. Imagine having enough stature in the music business to request Carl Wilson to sing background vocals and Ringo Starr play drums on one of your songs. And then to not actually release that song on the album! I think that may have had something to do with the fact that Hung Up and Overdue was on a movie soundtrack around the same time, though. He also sings backup vocals on Petty's "Honey Bee", but it's damn near impossible to pick him out since said vocals are completely buried in the mix. |
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Post by E on Jan 31, 2023 10:35:24 GMT -5
Always thought it a shame that his guest appearances were infrequent and not more rich and varied. Here he is with Bruce and Toni Tenille helping Elton John in the days when Elton was coming up with some stuff worth listening to. You should pay (lots of money) to avoid the rehash of this with George Michael, which sounds like two pub-singers intent on emptying the pub.  |
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Post by patsy6 on Jan 31, 2023 16:31:29 GMT -5
He also sings backup vocals on Petty's "Honey Bee", but it's damn near impossible to pick him out since said vocals are completely buried in the mix. Agreed |
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Post by patsy6 on Jan 31, 2023 16:39:58 GMT -5
Always thought it a shame that his guest appearances were infrequent and not more rich and varied. Here he is with Bruce and Toni Tenille helping Elton John in the days when Elton was coming up with some stuff worth listening to. You should pay (lots of money) to avoid the rehash of this with George Michael, which sounds like two pub-singers intent on emptying the pub. One of my favorite Elton songs! Don't forget Billy Hinsche, who also sang on this song. Also, check out AGD's guesting page at www.bellagio10452.com/guesting.html. I was astounded that Carl made almost 50 guest appearances in his 36 year career. As to rich and varied, I guess that's a matter of opinion. |
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Post by E on Feb 1, 2023 5:46:25 GMT -5
By rich and varied, I meant that he was seldom used by major artists - like Petty, Elton, Zevon or Chicago for example. Not sure I'd count America/Beckley/whatever, Bachman or Cross in that league, but your mileage may vary.
And yes, one of Elton's best songs. Maybe his best...
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Post by AGD on Feb 1, 2023 17:24:02 GMT -5
Always thought it a shame that his guest appearances were infrequent and not more rich and varied. Here he is with Bruce and Toni Tenille helping Elton John in the days when Elton was coming up with some stuff worth listening to. You should pay (lots of money) to avoid the rehash of this with George Michael, which sounds like two pub-singers intent on emptying the pub. Funny you should say that, as Reg evidently very much disagreed. In Philip Norman's book Sir Elton: The Definitive Biography, producer Gus Dudgeon said, "When Elton recorded this track, he was in a filthy mood. On some takes, he'd scream it, on others he'd mumble it, or he'd just stand there, staring at the control room. Eventually, he flung off his headphones and said, 'Okay, let's hear what we got.'" When Gus played it for him, Elton said, 'That's a load of crap. You can send it to Engelbert Humperdinck, and if he doesn't like it, you can give it to Lulu as a demo.' |
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Post by patsy6 on Feb 1, 2023 19:22:19 GMT -5
Always thought it a shame that his guest appearances were infrequent and not more rich and varied. Here he is with Bruce and Toni Tenille helping Elton John in the days when Elton was coming up with some stuff worth listening to. You should pay (lots of money) to avoid the rehash of this with George Michael, which sounds like two pub-singers intent on emptying the pub. Funny you should say that, as Reg evidently very much disagreed. In Philip Norman's book Sir Elton: The Definitive Biography, producer Gus Dudgeon said, "When Elton recorded this track, he was in a filthy mood. On some takes, he'd scream it, on others he'd mumble it, or he'd just stand there, staring at the control room. Eventually, he flung off his headphones and said, 'Okay, let's hear what we got.'" When Gus played it for him, Elton said, 'That's a load of crap. You can send it to Engelbert Humperdinck, and if he doesn't like it, you can give it to Lulu as a demo.' Yikes!  I guess sometimes even Reg could be his own worst critic. |
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Post by lonelysummer on Feb 1, 2023 23:22:50 GMT -5
Funny you should say that, as Reg evidently very much disagreed. In Philip Norman's book Sir Elton: The Definitive Biography, producer Gus Dudgeon said, "When Elton recorded this track, he was in a filthy mood. On some takes, he'd scream it, on others he'd mumble it, or he'd just stand there, staring at the control room. Eventually, he flung off his headphones and said, 'Okay, let's hear what we got.'" When Gus played it for him, Elton said, 'That's a load of crap. You can send it to Engelbert Humperdinck, and if he doesn't like it, you can give it to Lulu as a demo.' Yikes! I guess sometimes even Reg could be his own worst critic. I never liked that song at all. I still don't. But I love Carl singing on America's albums, especially "Garden of Peace", "You Girl", and "Sometimes Lovers". His singing always elevates the songs to a higher level. |
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Post by E on Feb 2, 2023 4:18:38 GMT -5
Always thought it a shame that his guest appearances were infrequent and not more rich and varied. Here he is with Bruce and Toni Tenille helping Elton John in the days when Elton was coming up with some stuff worth listening to. You should pay (lots of money) to avoid the rehash of this with George Michael, which sounds like two pub-singers intent on emptying the pub. Funny you should say that, as Reg evidently very much disagreed. In Philip Norman's book Sir Elton: The Definitive Biography, producer Gus Dudgeon said, "When Elton recorded this track, he was in a filthy mood. On some takes, he'd scream it, on others he'd mumble it, or he'd just stand there, staring at the control room. Eventually, he flung off his headphones and said, 'Okay, let's hear what we got.'" When Gus played it for him, Elton said, 'That's a load of crap. You can send it to Engelbert Humperdinck, and if he doesn't like it, you can give it to Lulu as a demo.' He's wrong. It's a great song. The evidence against his opinion is a lot of his post 1978 output  |
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Post by AGD on Feb 2, 2023 10:37:24 GMT -5
Funny you should say that, as Reg evidently very much disagreed. In Philip Norman's book Sir Elton: The Definitive Biography, producer Gus Dudgeon said, "When Elton recorded this track, he was in a filthy mood. On some takes, he'd scream it, on others he'd mumble it, or he'd just stand there, staring at the control room. Eventually, he flung off his headphones and said, 'Okay, let's hear what we got.'" When Gus played it for him, Elton said, 'That's a load of crap. You can send it to Engelbert Humperdinck, and if he doesn't like it, you can give it to Lulu as a demo.' He's wrong. It's a great song. The evidence against his opinion is a lot of his post 1978 output Can't argue against that. Back in the day, circa 1999, I did an Elton ComGuide. Never got published (but I did get paid !!) and having listened to all his albums in release order, yup, after 1978's A Single Man, quality control fell off a cliff and was disengaged for ten years or more. |
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I guess sometimes even Reg could be his own worst critic. 
