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Post by boogieboarder on Jul 21, 2021 20:43:33 GMT -5
Does anyone ever listen to the complete Beach Boys' albums in chronological order? I do that from time to time. Back in the 1970s through the 1990s, it was easier, but now you have to decide whether to include all the compilations with so many duplicates, the box sets like "Pet Sounds," and "Smile," and, of course, all the Beach Boys solo albums, plus the more recent copyright song dumps (some of which I haven't even listened to all the way through even once yet.) Still - I started a complete listen at the gym (every three days or so), starting with Surfin' Safari - and I'm just finishing up the Good Vibrations 5-CD box set. This included unreleased albums such as "Landlocked," "Adult Child," etc.
I also like to listen to The Beatles and The Rolling Stones in chronological order. But I may not live long enough to complete the chronological listening to all the Beatles solo albums.
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Post by AGD on Jul 22, 2021 12:05:50 GMT -5
Does anyone ever listen to the complete Beach Boys' albums in chronological order? I do that from time to time. Back in the 1970s through the 1990s, it was easier, but now you have to decide whether to include all the compilations with so many duplicates, the box sets like "Pet Sounds," and "Smile," and, of course, all the Beach Boys solo albums, plus the more recent copyright song dumps (some of which I haven't even listened to all the way through even once yet.) Still - I started a complete listen at the gym (every three days or so), starting with Surfin' Safari - and I'm just finishing up the Good Vibrations 5-CD box set. This included unreleased albums such as "Landlocked," "Adult Child," etc. I also like to listen to The Beatles and The Rolling Stones in chronological order. But I may not live long enough to complete the chronological listening to all the Beatles solo albums. I'm intrigued to hear that you've listened to an album that wasn't merely unreleased, but never actually existed.
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Post by boogieboarder on Jul 22, 2021 12:53:32 GMT -5
Does anyone ever listen to the complete Beach Boys' albums in chronological order? I do that from time to time. Back in the 1970s through the 1990s, it was easier, but now you have to decide whether to include all the compilations with so many duplicates, the box sets like "Pet Sounds," and "Smile," and, of course, all the Beach Boys solo albums, plus the more recent copyright song dumps (some of which I haven't even listened to all the way through even once yet.) Still - I started a complete listen at the gym (every three days or so), starting with Surfin' Safari - and I'm just finishing up the Good Vibrations 5-CD box set. This included unreleased albums such as "Landlocked," "Adult Child," etc. I also like to listen to The Beatles and The Rolling Stones in chronological order. But I may not live long enough to complete the chronological listening to all the Beatles solo albums. I'm intrigued to hear that you've listened to an album that wasn't merely unreleased, but never actually existed. Well, Landlocked is, of course, the name applied to the set of songs apparently played on the radio and introduced as songs that could possibly appear on their next album, and is frequently bootlegged under that title. I also made compilation CDs myself of the proposed albums, or proposed album titles - "Add Some Music," "Caribou, "New Album," "Friends, Cousins and Brothers," "California Feeling," and the proposed but untitled Beach Boys Andy Paley Sessions album, as well as the Wilson/Usher sessions, and things like that. I can have as many unreleased "albums" as I care to make, as can anybody with access to bootlegs. When listening to The Beach Boys in chronological order, including bootlegs makes it even more interesting.
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Post by Silken on Jul 22, 2021 13:03:31 GMT -5
Does anyone ever listen to the complete Beach Boys' albums in chronological order? I did when I was first getting into them. Interesting experience.
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Post by AGD on Jul 22, 2021 13:48:35 GMT -5
I'm intrigued to hear that you've listened to an album that wasn't merely unreleased, but never actually existed. Well, Landlocked is, of course, the name applied to the set of songs apparently played on the radio and introduced as songs that could possibly appear on their next album, and is frequently bootlegged under that title. I also made compilation CDs myself of the proposed albums, or proposed album titles - "Add Some Music," "Caribou, "New Album," "Friends, Cousins and Brothers," "California Feeling," and the proposed but untitled Beach Boys Andy Paley Sessions album, as well as the Wilson/Usher sessions, and things like that. I can have as many unreleased "albums" as I care to make, as can anybody with access to bootlegs. When listening to The Beach Boys in chronological order, including bootlegs makes it even more interesting. The songs played 2/19/71 on WPLJ-FM were "Good Time" (original mix), "I Just Got My Pay", "San Miguel" and an incomplete "'Til I Die". That's all. Not a complete albums worth of songs. The master for the "2nd Warner Brothers LP" was compiled 9/1/70 comprised: Loop De Loop Susie Cincinnati San Miguel H.E.L.P. (as in "... Is On The Way") Take A Load Off Your Feet Carnival I Just Got My Pay Good Time Big Sur (3/4 version) My Lady (= "Fallin' In Love") When Girls Get Together Lookin' At Tomorrow How Deep Is The Ocean Surf's Up (= 'Til I Die minus Brian's lead).
Also scrawled on the tape box box is "GRILLO HIPE"
What the band actually said in the interview was (and I paraphrase slightly) "This isn't an album, it's songs that might be on an album". Not "next" album, "an" album. SWD told me that the acetate was pressed up for the band to have something to play during interviews (although WPLJ would seem to be the only time they did this), and he further noted that the tape he compiled was probably copied on the sly at Artisan Sound. The whole Landlocked thing seems to stem from the fertile imagination of one John Frank Rieley III.
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Post by boogieboarder on Jul 22, 2021 14:28:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification. I also remember, when I subscribed to Rolling Stone in the early 70s, seeing a 1970 or 1971 ad or announcement for a Beach Boys Landlocked album with a bunch of song titles, none of which ever showed up on a Beach Boys album. Years later, those song titles were uncovered as being from an actual album released by some other group, but I can't remember the group or the album name. This seems to be lost in the mists of time, as far as finding the information on Google with a perfunctory search. By the way, is this legitimate? I'm sure it's a cheap fake, but the website I found it on is presenting it as real.
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Post by drbeachboy (Dirk) on Jul 22, 2021 19:22:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification. I also remember, when I subscribed to Rolling Stone in the early 70s, seeing a 1970 or 1971 ad or announcement for a Beach Boys Landlocked album with a bunch of song titles, none of which ever showed up on a Beach Boys album. Years later, those song titles were uncovered as being from an actual album released by some other group, but I can't remember the group or the album name. This seems to be lost in the mists of time, as far as finding the information on Google with a perfunctory search. By the way, is this legitimate? I'm sure it's a cheap fake, but the website I found it on is presenting it as real. View AttachmentIt’s a fake. Warner Bros release on a Capitol studio track list sheet?
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Post by Al S on Jul 22, 2021 23:24:59 GMT -5
Does anyone ever listen to the complete Beach Boys' albums in chronological order? I do that from time to time. I tend to get a niggle to hear a certain BB record, then I will want to hear the chronologically next one and so on. Once I’ve gotten to TWGMTR, if I didn’t start with SS, I’ll loop back and wind through until I get back to my start point. Eg, start with Pet Sounds end with Party (or Summer Days). I’m not as hung up on fitting in the unreleased stuff when taking such an approach.
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Post by Al S on Jul 22, 2021 23:28:39 GMT -5
I also like to listen to The Beatles and The Rolling Stones in chronological order. But I may not live long enough to complete the chronological listening to all the Beatles solo albums. In that case, do not start with Ringo’s stuff. Certainly not on my “Things to here before you die” list!
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Post by boogieboarder on Jul 23, 2021 2:05:12 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification. I also remember, when I subscribed to Rolling Stone in the early 70s, seeing a 1970 or 1971 ad or announcement for a Beach Boys Landlocked album with a bunch of song titles, none of which ever showed up on a Beach Boys album. Years later, those song titles were uncovered as being from an actual album released by some other group, but I can't remember the group or the album name. This seems to be lost in the mists of time, as far as finding the information on Google with a perfunctory search. By the way, is this legitimate? I'm sure it's a cheap fake, but the website I found it on is presenting it as real. View AttachmentIt’s a fake. Warner Bros release on a Capitol studio track list sheet? How could I have been so dumb not to notice that? Duh!
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Post by AGD on Jul 23, 2021 5:33:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification. I also remember, when I subscribed to Rolling Stone in the early 70s, seeing a 1970 or 1971 ad or announcement for a Beach Boys Landlocked album with a bunch of song titles, none of which ever showed up on a Beach Boys album. Years later, those song titles were uncovered as being from an actual album released by some other group, but I can't remember the group or the album name. This seems to be lost in the mists of time, as far as finding the information on Google with a perfunctory search.Try the unreleased Albums section at 10452, I'll save you the time, here's the relevent bit from "Landlocked": "Another factor in the longevity of the "Landlocked" myth was the printing in David Leaf's biography of Brian of an alleged advert for the album, complete with this track listing: "Big 'T' Water/I Was Born In Kentucky/Sally (Was A Gentle Woman)/Sneakin' In The Back Door Of Love/Statue Of A Fool/Mountain High/Long Lonesome Highway/Tie Me To Your Apron Strings/There's Been A Change In Me/Sing That Song Again". Leaf wisely remarked upon the possibility of a hoax, and many BB historians noted the decidedly country slant of all the titles. And so it proved, for the track listing was lifted wholesale from the 1971 MGM album The Best Of Michael Parks." You mean this (it's an art cell, not the actual artwork: the colours would be reversed) ? That first showed up in the 1978 Leaf book.
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Post by kds on Jul 23, 2021 10:54:08 GMT -5
Does anyone ever listen to the complete Beach Boys' albums in chronological order? I do that from time to time. Back in the 1970s through the 1990s, it was easier, but now you have to decide whether to include all the compilations with so many duplicates, the box sets like "Pet Sounds," and "Smile," and, of course, all the Beach Boys solo albums, plus the more recent copyright song dumps (some of which I haven't even listened to all the way through even once yet.) Still - I started a complete listen at the gym (every three days or so), starting with Surfin' Safari - and I'm just finishing up the Good Vibrations 5-CD box set. This included unreleased albums such as "Landlocked," "Adult Child," etc. I also like to listen to The Beatles and The Rolling Stones in chronological order. But I may not live long enough to complete the chronological listening to all the Beatles solo albums. I did it one time, once I had physical copies of all of the Beach Boys studio albums, during the early part of the Summer of 2014. I just stuck with the Beach Boys studio albums, and left out comps, boxed sets, unreleased tracks, odds & ends, live albums, and solo material. Although, I did include "Smile" as released on The Smile Sessions, and since it was early summer, I opted to skip the Christmas Album.
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Post by jds on Jul 23, 2021 11:14:51 GMT -5
Well, Landlocked is, of course, the name applied to the set of songs apparently played on the radio and introduced as songs that could possibly appear on their next album, and is frequently bootlegged under that title. I also made compilation CDs myself of the proposed albums, or proposed album titles - "Add Some Music," "Caribou, "New Album," "Friends, Cousins and Brothers," "California Feeling," and the proposed but untitled Beach Boys Andy Paley Sessions album, as well as the Wilson/Usher sessions, and things like that. I can have as many unreleased "albums" as I care to make, as can anybody with access to bootlegs. When listening to The Beach Boys in chronological order, including bootlegs makes it even more interesting. The songs played 2/19/71 on WPLJ-FM were "Good Time" (original mix), "I Just Got My Pay", "San Miguel" and an incomplete "'Til I Die". That's all. Not a complete albums worth of songs. The master for the "2nd Warner Brothers LP" was compiled 9/1/70 comprised: Loop De Loop Susie Cincinnati San Miguel H.E.L.P. (as in "... Is On The Way") Take A Load Off Your Feet Carnival I Just Got My Pay Good Time Big Sur (3/4 version) My Lady (= "Fallin' In Love") When Girls Get Together Lookin' At Tomorrow How Deep Is The Ocean Surf's Up (= 'Til I Die minus Brian's lead).
Also scrawled on the tape box box is "GRILLO HIPE"
What the band actually said in the interview was (and I paraphrase slightly) "This isn't an album, it's songs that might be on an album". Not "next" album, "an" album. SWD told me that the acetate was pressed up for the band to have something to play during interviews (although WPLJ would seem to be the only time they did this), and he further noted that the tape he compiled was probably copied on the sly at Artisan Sound. The whole Landlocked thing seems to stem from the fertile imagination of one John Frank Rieley III.
My hot take is that this is a much better and more characteristic album than the released Surf's Up.
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Post by boogieboarder on Jul 23, 2021 13:24:55 GMT -5
The songs played 2/19/71 on WPLJ-FM were "Good Time" (original mix), "I Just Got My Pay", "San Miguel" and an incomplete "'Til I Die". That's all. Not a complete albums worth of songs. The master for the "2nd Warner Brothers LP" was compiled 9/1/70 comprised: Loop De Loop Susie Cincinnati San Miguel H.E.L.P. (as in "... Is On The Way") Take A Load Off Your Feet Carnival I Just Got My Pay Good Time Big Sur (3/4 version) My Lady (= "Fallin' In Love") When Girls Get Together Lookin' At Tomorrow How Deep Is The Ocean Surf's Up (= 'Til I Die minus Brian's lead).
Also scrawled on the tape box box is "GRILLO HIPE"
What the band actually said in the interview was (and I paraphrase slightly) "This isn't an album, it's songs that might be on an album". Not "next" album, "an" album. SWD told me that the acetate was pressed up for the band to have something to play during interviews (although WPLJ would seem to be the only time they did this), and he further noted that the tape he compiled was probably copied on the sly at Artisan Sound. The whole Landlocked thing seems to stem from the fertile imagination of one John Frank Rieley III.
My hot take is that this is a much better and more characteristic album than the released Surf's Up. It does seem like internal band politics to release their next album without both of Dennis Wilson's contributions, and three of Brian's songs - only to then claim Brian is not involved as much he used to be.
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