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Post by The Cincinnati Kid on Jan 1, 2019 13:31:15 GMT -5
Released in 1996, many fans were disappointed that this was the end result of Brian's return to the Beach Boys in 1995. Attachments:
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Post by kds on Jan 2, 2019 11:47:11 GMT -5
I know it says "The Beach Boys" on the cover, but I really don't consider this a BB album. It's basically the BB appearing on their own tribute album.
It's not all bad. Toby Keith and Willie Nelson offer some good moments. But, it's mostly bad. I'm not a big country fan, but I've grown to appreciate it in recent years. Even so, this does nothing for me.
3/10
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Post by ian on Jan 3, 2019 10:50:18 GMT -5
So mediocre-I like real country and most of this is the watered down pap that people “call” country. This is just slick marketing. If the BBs had worked with more of willies friends maybe it would have been interesting (George Jones, Merle haggard and other artists that actually have a unique sound). The selection of songs is predictable and trite. Do we really need 1996 versions of little Deuce coupe.
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Post by Vale on Jan 3, 2019 11:00:50 GMT -5
So mediocre-I like real country and most of this is the watered down pap that people “call” country. This is just slick marketing. If the BBs had worked with more of willies friends maybe it would have been interesting (George Jones, Merle haggard and other artists that actually have a unique sound). The selection of songs is predictable and trite. Do we really need 1996 versions of little Deuce coupe. 1. I really struggle to consider this as a Beach Boys album. They could do a definitely better work, considering there was a sort of reunion and of course, with hindsight, there was Carl still there... |
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Post by dant on Jan 4, 2019 10:34:19 GMT -5
Remember to actually listen to the music before rating it! Don’t rate albums based on what troubles the band was going through at the time!
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Post by filledeplage on Jan 4, 2019 11:55:11 GMT -5
Remember to actually listen to the music before rating it! Don’t rate albums based on what troubles the band was going through at the time! Ya - and I gave it a 7 for a couple of reasons. A lot of the tracks I think are pretty good, and the artists themselves (Tammy Wynette/Lorrie Morgan/Willie Nelson) seemed delighted/honored even to have an opportunity to cover the work. And at least one artist (whose name escapes me for the moment) had them do the background vox on some televised country performance. It gave them publicity in another sphere. It is one thing I like about them- they are not afraid to try new things even if it means it looks like (but is not) a lukewarm reception. They try new things and take the risk - I can live with that.  |
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Post by filledeplage on Jan 4, 2019 12:11:51 GMT -5
So mediocre-I like real country and most of this is the watered down pap that people “call” country. This is just slick marketing. If the BBs had worked with more of willies friends maybe it would have been interesting (George Jones, Merle haggard and other artists that actually have a unique sound). The selection of songs is predictable and trite. Do we really need 1996 versions of little Deuce coupe. Ian - in the 90's I was not a country fan at all. But now it is popularized and everyone does not dress like Minnie Pearl. This was kind of fun and these artists really admired the Boys and grew up with them as their idols. Tell me this is not fun. It gave the band some TV face time as well. |
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Post by E on Jan 4, 2019 13:17:31 GMT -5
I think it's mostly shit, but like Ian, may have turned out decent had a few more heavy hitters or some major alt. country types been involved, but a lot of this is pretty mediocre and the backing vocals are often the best thing about them
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Post by filledeplage on Jan 4, 2019 14:30:12 GMT -5
I think it's mostly shit, but like Ian, may have turned out decent had a few more heavy hitters or some major alt. country types been involved, but a lot of this is pretty mediocre and the backing vocals are often the best thing about them In many non-country parts of the US - country music was not cool until it became "sexy" with stars like Shania Twain and that whole young and hip (country) crossover style. My kids (and I never dreamed growing up in a rock and roll - sometimes classical house) would go and tail-gate at country concerts. It was a shocker to me. Country was becoming part of popular music and I think one of the album/s -project's significance is Carl doing the background vocals and looking very much like the MD on the Nashville Sounds video that came out later. What Stars and Stripes tracks have not been released? Sail On Sailor? And I happen to think that they don't come bigger than Willie Nelson or Tammy Wynette. Even Timothy B. Schmit who played with The Eagles, for Poco and vox for Steely Dan, CSNY. Maybe I am in the minority but I think some of them are pretty significant including Lorrie Morgan. |
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Post by ian on Jan 4, 2019 18:45:37 GMT -5
I’m not going to argue-if you like it great but to me shania Twain is not country. Like I said I don’t mind willie-they needed more mavericks like him that have their own sound and they should have chosen some less obvious things to sing. I never play this record but if it works for you then great
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Post by Will/P.P. on Jan 4, 2019 19:02:49 GMT -5
Real Country music didn't need "sexy" to be cool.
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Post by filledeplage on Jan 4, 2019 19:59:58 GMT -5
Real Country music didn't need "sexy" to be cool. True - but it caught on like a wild fire when it got sexy and at that point it started to matter more. I guess what I mean is that it went more mainstream after the mid to late 90's when it was not so boxed-in and stereotyped. I just caught "Walk the Line" for the tenth (or more time) on Netflix the other night and made me appreciate Johnny Cash, just as one example. It was never my cup of tea and maybe that CD opened the door to a world that was very removed from mainstream rock or Motown which was heavily accepted. It was much less likely to have a country song in the top 10 when rock dominated the charts. |
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Post by filledeplage on Jan 4, 2019 20:03:05 GMT -5
I’m not going to argue-if you like it great but to me shania Twain is not country. Like I said I don’t mind willie-they needed more mavericks like him that have their own sound and they should have chosen some less obvious things to sing. I never play this record but if it works for you then great It is not so much that it was a great CD - for me, so much as the effort that was made to stretch into another genre. I did play a few cuts a lot and one was to wake up one of my kids for school and getting him up was like trying to wake the dead. We still laugh about it, all these years later. |
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Post by E on Jan 5, 2019 5:18:42 GMT -5
Real Country music didn't need "sexy" to be cool. Too true. Country is a broad church and it's a pity people are put off by the trappings (the big hats, wigs (looking at you, Dolly), sequins and some of the politics) but I do remember it became hip with the younger indie types (which I flirted with at the time and, Jesus, I was young then!) with the likes of Lyle Lovett, Nanci Griffiths, the Cowboy Junkies, Maria McKee, and Dwight Yoakam who inspired people to look again at artists of the calibre of Nelson, Cash, Kristofferson, Jones (thank you, Mr Costello) and Haggard. I think Cash's career resurgence owes something to this because the alt. country types made people think again about what country music can be and made them look at its roots. Pretty soon, you were seeing country albums reviewed in the Americana sections of rock magazines and not just in genre-specific mags). This was way before Ms Twain's 'sexy' spin on the genre, let alone the likes of Toby Keith and people with big hats. I like the Nelson and Schmitt covers; Wynette's, of course, wasn't on the actual album. Junior Brown's 409 is fun. That's about it for me. Your mileage may vary (- AGD). Not disagreeing with you, Will. Not at all. |
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Post by Beach Boys Fan on Jan 5, 2019 10:15:12 GMT -5
To me, country music sounds samey, it doesn't seem as varied as pop music - the basic track, use of instruments is the same. Modern country does differ than classic country but even so, there're singers who represent country who, when you hear them, each seem to be previous singer's work's repeat, in this or that way. Jmho.
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Post by dumbchops on Jan 5, 2019 20:57:23 GMT -5
Outside of the one Dixie Chicks album produced by Rick Rubin, I kind of hate country music old and new. I did however give this album a 1 out of 10 for the one good song with Willie Nelson who made "The Warmth Of The Sun" sound like he wrote it or owned it.
To be honest, I don't think I'll ever play this album ever again. What a missed opportunity not making an album out of the Paley sessions. So let's just pretend that Still Surfin', Summer In Paradise and this creatively bankrupt one never happened. It's a real shame to me that the Beach Boys were really only relevant into the late 70's. Not Pink Floyd The Wall relevant but some kind of MOR Beach Boys relevancy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 0:06:12 GMT -5
It's one of those albums which just really shouldn't have been made.
One of many that further sullied their reputation and made being a Beach Boy fan something to be embarrassed about when I was growing up. (I owned my fandom, but people gave me a hard time for it and wouldn't listen to me when I recommended Pet Sounds.)
What adds insult to injury is that we might have gotten the Paley Sessions if Melinda and Carl had not gotten in the way. Instead, we got this drivel.
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Post by filledeplage on Jan 7, 2019 10:19:48 GMT -5
It's one of those albums which just really shouldn't have been made. One of many that further sullied their reputation and made being a Beach Boy fan something to be embarrassed about when I was growing up. (I owned my fandom, but people gave me a hard time for it and wouldn't listen to me when I recommended Pet Sounds.) What adds insult to injury is that we might have gotten the Paley Sessions if Melinda and Carl had not gotten in the way. Instead, we got this drivel. 1 Their "legacy" and reputation was cast in stone in the 60's. That gave the the wide latitude and luxury to experiment with other things and genres. And even if it loses them money - they can take chances. Win or lose. By the time that Stars and Stripes Vol 1 came out - it was almost a novelty CD that took them into a different market. One would call "diversification" in a portfolio. It was #11 in the Canadian Country charts and I Can Hear Music with Kathy Troccoli was #16 on American Country. In the mid-90's I can recall no one whom I knew who was ashamed or embarrassed as a result of the CD. In real-time. It was a blip on the screen - and hardly to be taken personally. If someone would have said - "Oh that BB country CD was a bomb on the charts" - I would just have laughed and said, "So what." No one needed to recommend Pet Sounds to millennial era people - it was already ingrained in the culture. The Box set for Pet Sounds was out in the late 90's and hardly needed to be "sold." It sold itself. I just can't agree with your position, respectfully. |
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Post by Jason (The Real Beach Boy) on Mar 28, 2019 11:44:09 GMT -5
1.5. Yikes. The only way this could be preferable to a festering turd like Keepin' the Summer Alive is the sheer quality of the SONGWRITING (let's face it, the SONGS minus Long, Tall Texan are classic), if not necessarily the performances. The worst kind of attempt at relevancy - jumping on the shitty mid-90s country bandwagon.
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Post by Awesoman on Jan 3, 2022 7:48:49 GMT -5
This was the first "new" album by the band I purchased having just started to get into the group. So I admit that I liked it a lot more back then just because it was exciting for me to buy a new product from them. It's obviously not essential listening by any means but there are a few songs on there that are not *awful* at least. I don't mind the covers of "Don't Worry Baby", "Little Deuce Coupe" and "I Can Hear Music". "Long Tall Texan" is kind of fun at least. And Timothy B. Schmidt does a nice job on the over-produced "Caroline, No". The BB's background vocals in particular shine on that track, even if it kind of misses the point of the original version.
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Post by Maci Eascra on Nov 12, 2022 13:08:32 GMT -5
It's one of those albums which just really shouldn't have been made. One of many that further sullied their reputation and made being a Beach Boy fan something to be embarrassed about when I was growing up. (I owned my fandom, but people gave me a hard time for it and wouldn't listen to me when I recommended Pet Sounds.) What adds insult to injury is that we might have gotten the Paley Sessions if Melinda and Carl had not gotten in the way. Instead, we got this drivel. 1 100%. It's not a Beach Boys album. It's one of those hybrid attempts to cross genres and it's essentially a cover/tribute album featuring the actual Beach Boys. The songs don't lend themselves to country in structure, tone or theme, the production is heavy handed, and there is no emotion truly present. In the 70s, they'd produce albums with songs from your favorite artists sung by some studio musicians. I'm not exactly sure the point, outside of some cash grab, and that's what this album feels like. 1/10 and the 1 is a thank you for there not being a volume 2. |
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Post by boogieboarder on Nov 13, 2022 10:12:43 GMT -5
I never listen to this album. Even when I listen to the complete Beach Boys in chronological order, which I do from time to time.
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Post by jk on Nov 13, 2022 13:40:39 GMT -5
This is a great track. And I'd rather like to leave it at that:
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Post by Awesoman on Nov 14, 2022 7:41:00 GMT -5
Oddly enough the best thing to come from this album was a track that wasn't even recorded for this album: The Beach Boys guesting on backing vocals for Colin Raye's version of "Winter Wonderland". music.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa3NmE_XZgQ&feature=shareI know I've mentioned it on here before and while it doesn't exactly reinvent the wheel, it's at least a totally pleasant version boosted by the Beach Boys' harmonies. |
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Post by jk on Nov 14, 2022 8:41:34 GMT -5
Oddly enough the best thing to come from this album was a track that wasn't even recorded for this album: The Beach Boys guesting on backing vocals for Colin Raye's version of "Winter Wonderland". I know I've mentioned it on here before and while it doesn't exactly reinvent the wheel, it's at least a totally pleasant version boosted by the Beach Boys' harmonies. A, your video is "not available", so here's another upload. "Totally pleasant" fits the bill perfectly! |
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