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Post by John Manning on Jul 19, 2020 3:12:57 GMT -5
Can’t help but think the title and cover art of this new download-only Beach Boys album is a finger up to those fans who were angered by the band playing and therefore seemingly endorsing the convention for big game hunters. www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0883CJMV9/Who amongst us here would buy this album on that basis? Or any other basis, come to that? |
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Post by AGD on Jul 19, 2020 3:26:59 GMT -5
Not a clue how or why Capitol allowed Surfin' Safari to go out of copyright and into the public domain, but it's thown up a shitload of woefully misleading album titles.
And in answer to your original question: yes... and no.
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Post by SMiLE-Holland on Jul 19, 2020 5:02:51 GMT -5
“ Genre:Dance & DJ/Dance Pop”
... this might draw a new audience though... 😁
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Post by jiggy22 on Jul 20, 2020 1:15:04 GMT -5
Would Capitol be able to regain the rights to the album if they felt inclined to?
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Post by AGD on Jul 20, 2020 4:46:18 GMT -5
In the UK, no: once something is in the public domain, it's there forever, and given the whole copyright extension things was/is being done because of European copyright law, I'd say that's true in the US as well.
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Post by Al S on Jul 20, 2020 5:22:51 GMT -5
Thumbs down.
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Post by jiggy22 on Jul 20, 2020 14:55:50 GMT -5
So I suppose that probably throws the chances of an official stereo mix of the Surfin' Safari album out the window then. And by extension, a 1962 set as a whole. IIRC, the April 1962 Gary Usher material (i.e. Visions, Beginning of the End, etc.) was apparently in serious consideration for inclusion on one of the Morgan sessions collections, but this was ultimately blocked by the "powers that be" for one reason or another...
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Post by andrewhickey on Aug 16, 2020 12:07:24 GMT -5
Not a clue how or why Capitol allowed Surfin' Safari to go out of copyright and into the public domain, but it's thown up a shitload of woefully misleading album titles.
And in answer to your original question: yes... and no.
They didn't have a choice in the matter. Under European copyright law, all sound recordings made before December 31 1962 are in the public domain, no exceptions. The extension from fifty to seventy years only came in for recordings from January 1963 and later -- purely coincidentally, I'm sure, the Beatles' first album was recorded on February 20, 1963 (though "Love Me Do" and "P.S. I Love You" are also out of copyright, as they were released in October 62). |
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Post by andrewhickey on Aug 16, 2020 12:19:50 GMT -5
In the UK, no: once something is in the public domain, it's there forever, and given the whole copyright extension things was/is being done because of European copyright law, I'd say that's true in the US as well. They actually do have the rights still in the US. It's legal for manufacturers covered by European copyright law to make these sets, and they can sell them into the US, but anyone based in the US can't make them, as the recordings are still in copyright there. (And American copyright law is an utter shambles, and there have been multiple occasions where things that had fallen into the public domain over there have then fallen out of the public domain again and into private ownership. For example, the Rolling Stones recorded Robert Johnson's "Love in Vain" in 1969, and it had fallen out of copyright in 1967. However, a 1997 amendment to US copyright law retroactively meant that they were in copyright, and in 2000 the Rolling Stones had to pay a rather large sum of money to a bloke who'd persuaded Robert Johnson's half-sister to sign her rights to any of his intellectual property away in the seventies, when he didn't have any...) |
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Post by Will/P.P. on Sept 4, 2020 23:12:25 GMT -5
This is a surprising new development. I won't buy this, but I do buy a lot of these grey market Discs.
Many of them are produced well, with reasonably good sonics for what they are. I mostly collect the
live shows from reel tapes and radio. The UK does the world a good service.
Too bad things can get out of hand with public domain, tho. The Beach Boys album jacket leaves me
wondering what the mind-set is of the ones who put it together as a package? How do you find all of
this stuff, John? I'd stick with those high priced Japanese releases. They get the sound right.
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