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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 1, 2019 11:43:40 GMT -5
I seem to recall some posts about tracks being done a few months ago, so maybe this is a stupid question or topic. That's OK. I have my stupid moments. But it has been almost four years since No Pier Pressure, and Brian isn't getting any younger. (What a stupid saying that is. Is anyone getting any younger?)
Do people here think Brian has the interest, stamina, and voice (and I guess industry support) to put out another full studio album of originals? Are we looking at a[nother] covers album, such as the long-mentioned rock and roll album of my nightmares? Or no album at all, maybe just bits and pieces now and again?
What do you think, and how do you feel about that?
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Post by kds on Feb 1, 2019 11:46:13 GMT -5
I think he will, if just for the fact that I doubt Brian's team wants Mike Love to have the most recent release of any former Beach Boy.
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 1, 2019 11:48:13 GMT -5
I think he will, if just for the fact that I doubt Brian's team wants Mike Love to have the most recent release of any former Beach Boy. That would be kind of ironic, wouldn't it? The studio guy goes out after perennially touring while the touring guy goes out with a flurry of studio output? |
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Post by kds on Feb 1, 2019 11:55:26 GMT -5
I think he will, if just for the fact that I doubt Brian's team wants Mike Love to have the most recent release of any former Beach Boy. That would be kind of ironic, wouldn't it? The studio guy goes out after perennially touring while the touring guy goes out with a flurry of studio output? Also, the guy who was constantly criticized for coasting of 60s glories now has more new solo songs in his set. Meanwhile, Brian is going into his fourth straight year of touring on his most acclaimed album....a glorious album....from the 60s. (I'm not out to bash Brian here, just calling them as I see them). (I really shouldn't have to include that disclaimer, but.......Beach Boys fandom, right?) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 12:06:41 GMT -5
What I want and what I think will happen are two different things. I want the album, but I have to admit, I'm starting to think that it's not going to happen.
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Post by AGD on Feb 1, 2019 12:25:19 GMT -5
I seem to recall some posts about tracks being done a few months ago, so maybe this is a stupid question or topic. That's OK. I have my stupid moments. But it has been almost four years since No Pier Pressure, and Brian isn't getting any younger. (What a stupid saying that is. Is anyone getting any younger?)
Do people here think Brian has the interest, stamina, and voice (and I guess industry support) to put out another full studio album of originals? Are we looking at a[nother] covers album, such as the long-mentioned rock and roll album of my nightmares? Or no album at all, maybe just bits and pieces now and again?
What do you think, and how do you feel about that?
Respectively (IMHO): no, questionable, dubious and equally dubious. But then I'm just a gadfly... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 12:29:19 GMT -5
I came back to elaborate on my position but instead of editing I'll just put this here...
Industry support? I would have thought yes, but what do I know. Stamina? I don't think so. Voice? No.
The last new recording he put out was Run James Run on the his solo anthology, right? The vocals on the verses on that song have nowhere near the clarity, enunciation, and life that his vocals had on NPP. Maybe the difference is due to vocal processing on NPP or just a different production style. But on RJR, he sounds like a completely different guy - a tired guy. But make no mistake, I hope I’m wrong, and if I am, I would 100% buy any and all future BW solo albums.
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Post by John Manning on Feb 1, 2019 13:47:27 GMT -5
I came back to elaborate on my position but instead of editing I'll just put this here... Industry support? I would have thought yes, but what do I know. Stamina? I don't think so. Voice? No. The last new recording he put out was Run James Run on the his solo anthology, right? The vocals on the verses on that song have nowhere near the clarity, enunciation, and life that his vocals had on NPP. Maybe the difference is due to vocal processing on NPP or just a different production style. But on RJR, he sounds like a completely different guy - a tired guy. But make no mistake, I hope I’m wrong, and if I am, I would 100% buy any and all future BW solo albums. Right behind you in the queue. I believe there’ll still be many in the industry who’d make it work, not least Al & Blondie, Darian, Paul and the rest of supportive band. Creatively, who’ve we got? Joe Thomas? Okay, I’ll take it. Scott Bennett? I wish, but unlikely. Likewise VDP for entirely different reasons. I don’t think for a minute that Brian could manage much if any of the so-called heavy lifting – that’s what those industry figures are going to have to do – but I do believe he’d still have that God-given creative ability, in the right environment with the right collaborator(s). I don’t think anyone loses that kind of gift but the ability to exercise it might become more sensitive to the situation you’re currently in, as the years progress. Would Brian sing lead on an album of his own making? Another question entirely. |
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 1, 2019 13:51:58 GMT -5
For the record, I would love another album, and if it happens, I'd prefer it to be a studio album of originals. I don't think Brian's voice as primary lead would be very good, though, and would strongly prefer to have some of the other great singers in his group handle those chores. Al, Blondie (admittedly not my favorite voice), Matt, Darian, Nick, Mike...they can all do some heavy lifting. Nothing wrong with arranging for an ensemble and handling only the parts well within his current wheelhouse.
But it seems the more the interim stretches, the less likely an ambitious project will happen.
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Post by Autotune on Feb 1, 2019 14:15:22 GMT -5
If he lends his input to songs the bulk of which somebody else writes and puts together.
If he ok’s somebody else’s arrangements based on ideas infered from Brian’s earlier arranging style.
If he lends his input and presence to a production the bulk of which somebody else carries.
If he sings medium-range background parts and the safest sections of some of the songs’ lead vocals.
If the above-mentioned producer then proceeds to process and edit such vocals extensively.
If he agrees to stamp his name on yet another “Produced and arranged by Brian Wilson” credit.
Then I can’t see a new album not happening.
And I will buy it eagerly.
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Post by M.I.U. Fan on Feb 1, 2019 15:02:43 GMT -5
Probably not.
And if it's anything like "No Pier Pressure", I actually kinda hope not.
But if it's the rock and roll album he's wanted to make for the past 20 years... and it's the way he wants it to be... then I'd be happy to have it.
If he was going to deliver another "Lucky Old Sun" now would be the time, but too much time on the road prevents him from being creative.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 15:04:35 GMT -5
I answered "probably". He ain't dead yet, so I played the percentages. Seriously, that's what...all...Brian Wilson basically does. He makes albums and tours. I think Brian's health is failing which is not surprising for a man his age and all that he's been through, so he better not sit around too long. But in the next year or two, I wouldn't be surprised if we see another album similar to No Pier pressure - without the guest vocalists. I can see one more Brian Wilson/Joe Thomas collaboration. Brian needs Joe to produce the album, write/co-write the songs, and for quality control. Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin will probably contribute vocally, and maybe a daughter or two.
I'd love to see Brian's last album be a Beach Boys' album, but there's too many loose ends to tie up for that to happen. Too many people to please, too many people to piss off. But that would be my most desired project. A 13 track album comprised mostly of Brian Wilson and Mike Love songs - along with the best track(s) Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, Blondie Chaplin, and David Marks have to offer. I mean, don't those guys have at least one ace up their sleeve that they're dying to play?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 15:36:41 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't really care what he does next (if he does anything), I just want Brian's last statement in a recording studio to be literally anything other than No Pier Pressure. That would be an unbelievably depressing way to end a career. Agree that NPP is a terrible capstone, but realistically I doubt anything released now would be any better. Probably full of guest artists to drum up artificial media buzz, condescending press briefings comparing it to SMiLE, telling anyone skeptical they're being like Mike "dont fuck with the forumula" Love, slathering that Joe Thomas digital production and autotuned vocals over everything. I am apparently the only person here who thinks another album won't happen. I don't think Brian at this age has it in him anymore, and at the risk of coming off as one of the "wifeandmanagers" people I think if it does happen it will be a frankensteined mess trying to take his noodlings in the studio and cramming that square peg into a round hole via digital manipulation. Sorry to sound so negative I just honestly dont see any triumphant last blaze of glory happening at this stage. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 16:10:44 GMT -5
I am apparently the only person here who thinks another album won't happen. I don't think Brian at this age has it in him anymore, and at the risk of coming off as one of the "wifeandmanagers" people I think if it does happen it will be a frankensteined mess trying to take his noodlings in the studio and cramming that square peg into a round hole via digital manipulation. Beautifully put.  It certainly shouldn't happen. Same with another Beach Boys album--heaven forbid (not sure what I'll come off as for saying that  ). |
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 1, 2019 16:14:48 GMT -5
I think there's a universe in which a new BW album could be really good. I just doubt strongly that it's this one.
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Post by atree on Feb 1, 2019 16:52:25 GMT -5
Can we take a moment to reflect that the great man is 76 years old and deserved to retire in comfort years ago. Besides, we have more of the copyright extension releases to look forward to. |
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Post by The Cap'n on Feb 1, 2019 16:56:43 GMT -5
I don't think anyone here forgets that for a minute. This is purely speculation about what will happen.
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Post by Vale on Feb 1, 2019 17:01:42 GMT -5
Probably.
I believe this could be the last one.
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Post by dumbchops on Feb 1, 2019 19:52:26 GMT -5
Do people here think Brian has the interest, stamina, and voice (and I guess industry support) Respectively (IMHO): no, questionable, dubious and equally dubious. But then I'm just a gadfly... I hate to admit it but I completely agree with this. It takes a lot of time and effort to make a new and satisfying album and I just can't see it happening. |
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Post by monolithic on Feb 1, 2019 22:35:37 GMT -5
It seems rather unlikely that Brian would really push to make a new album of his own volition, but stranger things have happened.
It (sadly) wouldn't be too surprising if none of the band members released a new studio album, but we live in hope. I would personally love for Al to very simply go into the studio to finish off some of his unreleased things (including the other Neil Young song) and to include some covers.
A live album covering Al's current solo shows would be cool too or some document to cover Mike's touring (though I don't expect it).
The Paley sessions would be a nice Brian release.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 23:11:35 GMT -5
Although I doubt its likelihood, I personally love to see a Brian/Al songwriting collaboration album.
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Post by kirkk on Feb 2, 2019 0:53:53 GMT -5
The Paley sessions would be a nice Brian release. I’d like to see this too, but unless it’s part of some archival release or with re-recorded lead vocals, I doubt it’ll come out as a “new” release. “Marketplace” and “Chain Reaction of Love” are two of my favorites, though “Some Sweet Day” was the one I was wanting above all others, so it was nice that one finally snuck out. I’m one of the ones who enjoyed most of No Pier Pressure for what it was, though the Brian/Joe Thomas collaborations are far from my favorite Brian, I find they tend to have some merit to them underneath the offputting production. But I’d much prefer the oft-promised rock & roll album if there was going to be one more, but I’m skeptical. I think the guy deserves a break at this point, I’m not champing at the bit for, or expecting, new music from him at this stage in the game. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 4:15:29 GMT -5
I would love to see some new songs with a Wilson/Love credit. But I also wanted my dad to buy me a pony for Christmas.
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Post by Autotune on Feb 2, 2019 7:03:50 GMT -5
I would love to see some new songs with a Wilson/Love credit. But I also wanted my dad to buy me a pony for Christmas. I thought I’d live enough to witness a last great rocker or beach stomper co-written by those two and sung by Mike. And, when it was announced, I thought the TWGMTR album would bring that. Perhaps it’s not in them anymore. Which is ok, I guess. Seriously, I think there’s at least one more album left in Brian (of originals or covers), and I think we’re in for a sustained period of album releasing from Mike. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 7:49:39 GMT -5
I would love to see some new songs with a Wilson/Love credit. But I also wanted my dad to buy me a pony for Christmas. I thought I’d live enough to witness a last great rocker or beach stomper co-written by those two and sung by Mike. And, when it was announced, I thought the TWGMTR album would bring that. "Spring Vacation"!!!!!!!!  |
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It certainly shouldn't happen. Same with another Beach Boys album--heaven forbid (not sure what I'll come off as for saying that 
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