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Post by lonelysummer on Mar 20, 2024 21:57:11 GMT -5
The first time I ever saw the Beach Boys in concert, it was an all day festival in Seattle, July 1978; I don't remember if it had a name, but the Kinks were on the bill, and a couple of local acts, Jr. Cadillac (who retired after 50 plus years last summer), and Randy Hansen's tribute to Jimi Hendrix. Jr. Cadillac was a good warm up - I'd never heard them before, but it was good time rock and roll, went over as well as an opening act can. The Hendrix tribute bombed. This was not a crowd interested in 45 minutes of heavy, distorted guy, just one song running into another. Obviously the highlights of the day were the Kinks and the Beach Boys. But even then, it seemed the BB's had become a nostalgia act. The few new songs they attempted fell flat; while the Kinks were promoting an excellent new album titled "Misfits".
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Post by jk on Mar 21, 2024 5:06:17 GMT -5
The first time I ever saw the Beach Boys in concert, it was an all day festival in Seattle, July 1978; I don't remember if it had a name, but the Kinks were on the bill, and a couple of local acts, Jr. Cadillac (who retired after 50 plus years last summer), and Randy Hansen's tribute to Jimi Hendrix. Jr. Cadillac was a good warm up - I'd never heard them before, but it was good time rock and roll, went over as well as an opening act can. The Hendrix tribute bombed. This was not a crowd interested in 45 minutes of heavy, distorted guy, just one song running into another. Obviously the highlights of the day were the Kinks and the Beach Boys. But even then, it seemed the BB's had become a nostalgia act. The few new songs they attempted fell flat; while the Kinks were promoting an excellent new album titled "Misfits". Thanks, LS. It must have been 16 July at the HS Memorial Stadium at the Seattle Center (with thanks to AGD's indispensable site). Apparently Jr. Cadillac (not to be confused with Flash Cadillac and the Continental Kids) backed Chuck Berry on stage a dozen times, so they were no strangers to classic rock and roll.
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Post by lonelysummer on Mar 21, 2024 14:09:43 GMT -5
The first time I ever saw the Beach Boys in concert, it was an all day festival in Seattle, July 1978; I don't remember if it had a name, but the Kinks were on the bill, and a couple of local acts, Jr. Cadillac (who retired after 50 plus years last summer), and Randy Hansen's tribute to Jimi Hendrix. Jr. Cadillac was a good warm up - I'd never heard them before, but it was good time rock and roll, went over as well as an opening act can. The Hendrix tribute bombed. This was not a crowd interested in 45 minutes of heavy, distorted guy, just one song running into another. Obviously the highlights of the day were the Kinks and the Beach Boys. But even then, it seemed the BB's had become a nostalgia act. The few new songs they attempted fell flat; while the Kinks were promoting an excellent new album titled "Misfits". Thanks, LS. It must have been 16 July at the HS Memorial Stadium at the Seattle Center (with thanks to AGD's indispensable site). Apparently Jr. Cadillac (not to be confused with Flash Cadillac and the Continental Kids) backed Chuck Berry on stage a dozen times, so they were no strangers to classic rock and roll. I've seen Jr. Cadillac many times over the years. They were always part of Bumbershoot back in the 80's and 90's, and they were still "out there" as recently as last summer. The original members are all around 80, and I think it's just gotten too hard to get up there and rock and roll for 90 minutes. Great guys, though, not just at interpreting Chuck Berry, Fats Domino and Little Richard, but with their own songs. I guess I should post some here.
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Post by jk on Mar 21, 2024 17:48:58 GMT -5
I've seen Jr. Cadillac many times over the years. They were always part of Bumbershoot back in the 80's and 90's, and they were still "out there" as recently as last summer. The original members are all around 80, and I think it's just gotten too hard to get up there and rock and roll for 90 minutes. Great guys, though, not just at interpreting Chuck Berry, Fats Domino and Little Richard, but with their own songs. I guess I should post some here. Please do!
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Post by lonelysummer on Mar 22, 2024 14:48:21 GMT -5
I've seen Jr. Cadillac many times over the years. They were always part of Bumbershoot back in the 80's and 90's, and they were still "out there" as recently as last summer. The original members are all around 80, and I think it's just gotten too hard to get up there and rock and roll for 90 minutes. Great guys, though, not just at interpreting Chuck Berry, Fats Domino and Little Richard, but with their own songs. I guess I should post some here. Please do! Here's my personal favorite.
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Post by Awesoman on Mar 25, 2024 8:09:42 GMT -5
The last time I saw the band play shortly before Carl's passing they were double-billed with Chicago. And even though this pairing was a far cry from the two bands' previous tours where they would perform songs together onstage, it was the first time I had ever seen Chicago perform. I considered this to be a "passing of the torch" as I stopped regularly attending Beach Boys concerts after Carl's passing and instead would regularly attend Chicago concerts every year for at least a decade.
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Post by bessieboporbach on Mar 27, 2024 8:24:02 GMT -5
I would have thought being American would be a selling point over there. Not necessarily. There's definitely an undefinable something about the music by those three bands that failed to register with British audiences. Gary Lewis & the Playboys fared marginally better with just one UK hit, "My Heart's Symphony", which in the US was the first sign of their decline in the singles charts. Another interesting comparison between US and UK tastes concerns the five consecutive US #1's by The Supremes. The massively infectious "Come See About Me" did noticeably worse in the UK than its chart-topping predecessor "Baby Love". And "Back In My Arms Again", a floor-filler if ever there was one, barely scraped into the UK top 40! The Lovin' Spoonful's "Darlin' Be Home Soon" is another example of a big US hit by what by then was an internationally popular band that went nowhere in the UK. Sometimes even American groups that were popular in both countries would have a completely different set of hits in the UK compared to the US. One source of fascination for me is comparing the chart history of the Byrds in the US vs. the UK. For example, in the US, "All I Really Want to Do" just barely scraped the top 40. In the UK, it was a #4 smash. In the US, "Turn Turn Turn" was a generational #1 hit. In the UK, it squeaked to #26. "Eight Miles High" was a much bigger hit in the US than in the UK. They had 3 further top 40 hits in the US during 1966 and 1967 that didn't chart at all in the UK. At least 2 minor US hits weren't even released in the UK during the '67-'69 period. And yet, 2 years later, a strange short edit of "Chestnut Mare" was a #19 hit in the UK, despite not even making the top 100 at home!
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Post by filledeplage on Mar 27, 2024 11:19:29 GMT -5
Also in 1969, these guys toured in Europe with the Beach Boys: Paul Revere and the Raiders featuring Mark Lindsay. "Let Me!" was a top 20 hit for the group in the US, but it didn't do a thing over there. Nice! Thanks, LS. Yes, it's strange... Paul Revere & the Raiders, like The Buckinghams and The Grass Roots, never made the grade in the UK. Were they too American? They did have extraordinary bands on their tours. As a result, I got to see most of these bands who were mentioned. But, it is good strategy to use country-local-specific headliners because the absolute worst for me, was sitting through the warm up acts (specifically the comedians) and it was a great help to see a band who was extraordinary. The Buffalo Springfield. Chicago. The Grass Roots. Tommy James. The Boxtops. Seals and Crofts. Doobie Brothers. America. Unbeatable and on the tour. Roy Orbison - in the late 80s, and so glad I went to that show. It is a good topic for discussion.
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Post by jk on Mar 27, 2024 13:22:34 GMT -5
They did have extraordinary bands on their tours. As a result, I got to see most of these bands who were mentioned. But, it is good strategy to use country-local-specific headliners because the absolute worst for me, was sitting through the warm up acts (specifically the comedians) and it was a great help to see a band who was extraordinary. The Buffalo Springfield. Chicago. The Grass Roots. Tommy James. The Boxtops. Seals and Crofts. Doobie Brothers. America. Unbeatable and on the tour. Roy Orbison - in the late 80s, and so glad I went to that show. It is a good topic for discussion. Wow, so you were there at the source, something we UK music fans could only dream of (or read about). Thank you, FDP. Maybe this should be in the main section, but I'm doing my darnedest to forge a link between what until now have been two irreconcilable sections of this forum.
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Post by filledeplage on Mar 28, 2024 7:43:37 GMT -5
They did have extraordinary bands on their tours. As a result, I got to see most of these bands who were mentioned. But, it is good strategy to use country-local-specific headliners because the absolute worst for me, was sitting through the warm up acts (specifically the comedians) and it was a great help to see a band who was extraordinary. The Buffalo Springfield. Chicago. The Grass Roots. Tommy James. The Boxtops. Seals and Crofts. Doobie Brothers. America. Unbeatable and on the tour. Roy Orbison - in the late 80s, and so glad I went to that show. It is a good topic for discussion. Wow, so you were there at the source, something we UK music fans could only dream of (or read about). Thank you, FDP. Maybe this should be in the main section, but I'm doing my darnedest to forge a link between what until now have been two irreconcilable sections of this forum. JK - I don't get into the weeds with discussion, just scan down the list of recent threads. But it is interesting to see the bands with whom they toured. And get more than one headliner for a show. The US fans only dream of the great set-lists from the UK. 🎈
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Post by jk on Apr 2, 2024 14:36:57 GMT -5
April 2nd 1966 found the Boys playing the Will Rogers Coliseum in Fort Worth TX, aided and abetted by The Lovin' Spoonful (again), The Elite and Chad & Jeremy, a British duo that were much bigger in the US than in their homeland. It's very likely C&J were promoting their then-current non-album single "Teenage Failure" -- to little avail, it transpired. Distant Shores, the album in the video, has a BB connection (look it up): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_%26_Jeremy
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Post by jk on Apr 4, 2024 14:43:03 GMT -5
On 4 April 1969, the Boys plays two gigs in Tampa FL, the second of which was at Curtis-Hixon Hall in the company of Tommy Roe, Joe Hicks and Classics IV, who were basking in the success of "Traces" and the parent album of that name and were no doubt promoting the second single from it, "Everything With You Girl": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traces_(Classics_IV_album)
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Post by jk on Apr 8, 2024 9:28:50 GMT -5
April 8th 1973 was the day the Boys played Ohio State University, Columbus OH in the company of The Doobie Brothers, who were themselves major stars by then. "Another Park, Another Sunday" was probably the song they were promoting at the time. It just missed the top thirty (the flip, "Black Water", was later released as an A-side and gave the Doobies their first US #1): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_Park,_Another_Sunday
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Post by E on Apr 10, 2024 14:18:21 GMT -5
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Post by jk on Apr 16, 2024 12:42:15 GMT -5
According to AGD's Bellagio website, the Boys played three shows in PA today in 1967, one at Johnstown Auditorium, Johnstown and two at the Penn Theater in Pittsburgh, all three in the company of Tommy James, Jim & Jean, The Uncalled For Three -- and The Left Banke, who presumably were promoting "Ivy Ivy", a non-album 45 released the previous month. Aha… I see that record was made by band keyboard player/songwriter Michael Brown under the name The Left Banke (of which there were now two!) with Bert Sommer on lead vocals, original drummer Lisa David-Schierhorst, future member of Spinal Tap Michael McKean on guitar and session musicians playing the rest: But if it was the other Left Banke, what were they promoting? Maybe they were just resting on the laurels of the two big hits, "Walk Away Renée" and the gorgeous "Pretty Ballerina" -- and who can blame them? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Left_Banke
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Post by jk on Apr 29, 2024 8:08:07 GMT -5
On 29 April 1966 the acts opening for the Boys at Cornell University, Ithaca NY were The Uncalled For Three (see earlier in this thread), and The Lost, a psychedelic/garage band hailing from Plainfield, Vermont. Their debut single "Maybe More Than You" was released in October 1965, so they were probably still promoting that, as their next single, "Violet Gown", wouldn't be issued until the following July: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_(band)
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Post by jk on May 2, 2024 16:00:09 GMT -5
Just a reminder that all dates and lineups come courtesy of AGD's indispensable "Shows & Sessions" pages. On this day in 1967 the Boys sans Carl (back home fighting his draft) played the Adelphi Theatre in Dublin, Ireland, with as opening acts The Freshmen (the Irish showband), The Vampires, Joe Cahill and The Strangers. This is "Mary, Mary", the B-side of The Strangers' debut single, which combined two Monkees covers and was released two months earlier: www.irishrock.org/irodb/bands/strangers.html
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